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Message 1582986 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 10:11:31 UTC

Is this normal? I have a 290x and the usage fluctuates between 0% usage and 95% usage, usually hovers around 60 - 70% most of the time however.

The fan speed never goes above 40%.

When doing something like coin mining or furmark it stays cosntant at 100%, temps shoot up and the fan hits over 55%.

Now this is great for the electricity bill a the machine is only pulling 244w from the wall at the moment with the CPU and GPU being used for Seti.

But if I can get more from the GPU and crunch more Wu's / faster then I am all for that.

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Message 1583009 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:06:37 UTC - in response to Message 1582986.  

How many WU's are you running on your GPU? I've had the same on my 780, and I've increased the number of WU's to 3 per GPU to get a load in the 90's.
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Message 1583012 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:25:56 UTC - in response to Message 1583009.  

Just the one, I couldn't see anywhere to change that?
I also seem to remember a post a while back saying that running more than one WU on the GPU is not a good idea?
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Message 1583013 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:32:47 UTC

If you wish to push the GPU to be closer to 99% then you will have to do more than 1 unit on the GPU other wise it will do what you are seeing . Your GPU has plenty of ram so you can do more than 1 unit .

Have you left 1 core for the GPU to use ?
You need at least 1 free to feed the GPU

To do more than 1 unit you need Lunatcs to be installed on the machine . you seem to be doing stock .

Unlike Einstein you don't have the option to tell the GPU to do more than 1 unit unless you run Lunatics

After installing Lunatics you will need to edit a file called app-inf.xml and change the <count>?<count> lines in it to 0.5 or 0.33 form the default of 1 and this is done using word pad so no special software needed to edit the app_inf.xml file

1 = 1 unit
0.5 = 2 units
0.33 = 3 unit

you will then need to leave 1 core for each unit to feed the GPU on Astropulse but you can get away with less doing Muti Beam units depends on how many units you ask the GPU to do but 2 cores is enough for 3 units on MB and 1 for 2 units

Now this may sound complecated but it's not and there are plenty of users that will answer any questions you have once you start using Lunatics

Lunatics will also speed the proccessing up to so you will do more even on the CPU
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Message 1583015 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:36:09 UTC

You can download Lunatics from

http://www.arkayn.us/forum/

you want the 0.42 version if your running 7.2.42 Bionic
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Message 1583023 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:50:24 UTC - in response to Message 1583015.  

Cheers ill take a look.

Astropulse / Multibeam?
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Message 1583025 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 11:59:56 UTC
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Despite what Glenn says you have the option to change how many tasks run on your GPU for any project using an app_config.xml. Which will work for stock applications or for 3rd part ones such as lunatics. It is also the place where you can specify CPU cores/threads to reserve for an application.
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Message 1583029 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 1583023.  

Astropulse / Multibeam?


this is what we call the units

seti@home v7 is Multibeam
AstroPulse v6 is AstroPulse but that will change some time in the next week or 2 to V7 also but will still be called AstroPulse just V7 not V6

you are only doing Mutibeam at the moment

To do AstroPulse you will have to change you setting to allow you to download them and they are only available for a few days as they get quickly taken and run out change the seti@home Preferences on your account page
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Message 1583030 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:06:10 UTC - in response to Message 1583025.  

Thanks Hal when did that come in ?
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Message 1583033 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:15:12 UTC

Ok Hal looked at your link ok it came in with version 7.0.40 wow i'm behind the know then and there i was thinking you needed Lunatics .

ow well dispite what Hal 9000 says Lunatics is faster than stock
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Message 1583039 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:37:40 UTC
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Lunatics is not needed, I am running 3 WU on stock. Go to C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu and create a file called app_config.xml and paste the below:
<app_config>
<app>
<name>setiathome_v7</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.33</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>0.06</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>0.33</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1.00</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>


0.33 means 3 WU, you might want to start with 0.5 and then go to 0.33 if load is still low.
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Message 1583044 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:50:39 UTC - in response to Message 1583039.  

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu


assuming that is where you put the data folder as it is the default one but if your like me it won't be there

c:\BOINC DATA FOLDER\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu is where mine is

I repeat Lunatics is faster than stock

yes i am sterring now
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Message 1583047 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 12:57:12 UTC - in response to Message 1583033.  

Ok Hal looked at your link ok it came in with version 7.0.40 wow i'm behind the know then and there i was thinking you needed Lunatics .

ow well dispite what Hal 9000 says Lunatics is faster than stock

Yeah the BOINC devs are always slipping in new things now and then. There are a few new cc_config options I am looking forward to in some newer versions as well.

Many of the current apps are actually Lunatics apps. Just slightly older versions. It is normally best to have the most recent versions. As they have more bug fixes and workarounds in them.
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Message 1583050 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 1583047.  

Ok Hal looked at your link ok it came in with version 7.0.40 wow i'm behind the know then and there i was thinking you needed Lunatics .

ow well dispite what Hal 9000 says Lunatics is faster than stock

Yeah the BOINC devs are always slipping in new things now and then. There are a few new cc_config options I am looking forward to in some newer versions as well.

Many of the current apps are actually Lunatics apps. Just slightly older versions. It is normally best to have the most recent versions. As they have more bug fixes and workarounds in them.


Not to forget some newer version are also faster than older ones.
For example r_2489 is approx 7% faster on my 7970 than r_2170.

You can always get the latest stable app on my website.


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Message 1583070 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:42:30 UTC - in response to Message 1583050.  

Ok Hal looked at your link ok it came in with version 7.0.40 wow i'm behind the know then and there i was thinking you needed Lunatics .

ow well dispite what Hal 9000 says Lunatics is faster than stock

Yeah the BOINC devs are always slipping in new things now and then. There are a few new cc_config options I am looking forward to in some newer versions as well.

Many of the current apps are actually Lunatics apps. Just slightly older versions. It is normally best to have the most recent versions. As they have more bug fixes and workarounds in them.


Not to forget some newer version are also faster than older ones.
For example r_2489 is approx 7% faster on my 7970 than r_2170.

You can always get the latest stable app on my website.

I have wondered. When you add an app to your site is it considered good for Main & not just for Beta site test?
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Message 1583072 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:46:24 UTC - in response to Message 1583070.  

I thought we weren't allowed to use apps on beta?
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Message 1583073 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1583070.  
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Ok Hal looked at your link ok it came in with version 7.0.40 wow i'm behind the know then and there i was thinking you needed Lunatics .

ow well dispite what Hal 9000 says Lunatics is faster than stock

Yeah the BOINC devs are always slipping in new things now and then. There are a few new cc_config options I am looking forward to in some newer versions as well.

Many of the current apps are actually Lunatics apps. Just slightly older versions. It is normally best to have the most recent versions. As they have more bug fixes and workarounds in them.


Not to forget some newer version are also faster than older ones.
For example r_2489 is approx 7% faster on my 7970 than r_2170.

You can always get the latest stable app on my website.

I have wondered. When you add an app to your site is it considered good for Main & not just for Beta site test?


When a new version is available on my website i did run it at least for 4 weeks at Main in full production mode.
So its ready to use here.

If anybody has questions about app versions feel free to ask here or via PM.


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Message 1583074 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:52:34 UTC - in response to Message 1583072.  

I thought we weren't allowed to use apps on beta?

Only when directed to do so by developer. Like when running debug/test version to fix problem.
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Message 1583075 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 13:54:55 UTC - in response to Message 1583074.  

ah gotcha ;)
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Message 1583334 - Posted: 8 Oct 2014, 7:18:31 UTC - in response to Message 1583074.  

I thought we weren't allowed to use apps on beta?

Only when directed to do so by developer. Like when running debug/test version to fix problem.

Yes, I did this for an issue with ATI AMD + Catalyst 11.12 (fixed now, I communicated by PMs on main with Raistmer, didn't have RAC to post on Beta at the time)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2185

Test (offline) logs are here:
http://pastebin.com/u/BilBg


* And later (now) I do it because no way to get stock on Beta for ATI AMD + BOINC 6.10.58 (no plan_class ati_opencl_100)
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/apps.php

My PM to Raistmer:
I started AP7 test on Beta using AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r2690 from your post:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=2182&postid=52303#52303

Computer:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=72429

 


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