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Message 1582859 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 3:30:53 UTC

My PC has on-board graphics, and a graphics card. Currently the on-board graphics are disabled in the Bois, but I wonder, can they be turned on and used?

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Message 1582890 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 4:29:23 UTC - in response to Message 1582859.  

'Computers hidden' and you don't tell anything about the 2 GPUs
 


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Message 1582934 - Posted: 7 Oct 2014, 6:21:46 UTC

Have you tried restoring the default settings in your Bios?
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Message 1584027 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:31:17 UTC - in response to Message 1582890.  

My settings are for "Show computers = Yes" so it should not be hidden. It is 7243927.

The card is an AMD Radion R7 200 series.

The integrated graphics system is (according to the MB manual) an "ATI Radeon HD3000"

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Message 1584030 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:35:08 UTC - in response to Message 1582934.  

Have you tried restoring the default settings in your Bios?


I realise that would enable it, but would it achieve my desired objective of using them both at the same time?

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Message 1584041 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 1584030.  

Have you tried restoring the default settings in your Bios?


I realise that would enable it, but would it achieve my desired objective of using them both at the same time?


Yeah, Check the BIOS. See if you can change the default display adapter to your on board graphics card. Then try setting it up. This should allow your OS to see both cards.

Also, If its possible keep the on board from getting disabled, the BIOS is where you would do it from.
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Message 1584044 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 17:48:58 UTC - in response to Message 1584027.  

The integrated graphics system is (according to the MB manual) an "ATI Radeon HD3000"

No, too old to be of use, it do not support OpenCL

And I doubt the driver (Catalyst 14.4) installed for your AMD Bonaire (2048MB) will recognize the Radeon HD3000
 


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Message 1586745 - Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 11:31:48 UTC

I have been using the SETI@home with my intel HD2500...recently 'cause of the new CREO2 software, my computer was updated with nVidia QUADRO 2000 graphic card...
now the SETI@home runs only on nVidia!

can it run on both? nVidia QUADRO 2000 (on PCIe) and on on-board intel HD2500?


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Message 1586749 - Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 11:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 1586745.  

I have been using the SETI@home with my intel HD2500...recently 'cause of the new CREO2 software, my computer was updated with nVidia QUADRO 2000 graphic card...
now the SETI@home runs only on nVidia!

can it run on both? nVidia QUADRO 2000 (on PCIe) and on on-board intel HD2500?


You will need to enable PEG in your BIOS setting find Integrated Graphics and then save in BIOS Setting and reboot Windows. You will need to install Integrated Graphics Driver and Windows may ask you to reboot after completing the installation of your Integrated Graphic Driver. The most important thing is to change the settings in the BIOS. Please go to the configuration tab>video>integrated graphics device> set to “always enable”
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Message 1586778 - Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 13:46:22 UTC - in response to Message 1586749.  

Got to BIOS, GPU is enabled...it is listed in Device manager under Win7...updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500...and still I get message:

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.10878, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 76413))
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | app version refers to missing GPU type intel_gpu
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | SETI@home | Application uses missing intel_gpu GPU

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Memory: 7.89 GB physical, 15.77 GB virtual
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Disk: 100.00 GB total, 24.80 GB free
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Message 1586822 - Posted: 14 Oct 2014, 21:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 1586778.  

Does your laptop have NVidia Optimus technology?
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Message 1586980 - Posted: 15 Oct 2014, 5:40:08 UTC - in response to Message 1586822.  

Does your laptop have NVidia Optimus technology?


it's not a laptop...it's a desktop!

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Message 1587074 - Posted: 15 Oct 2014, 9:53:04 UTC - in response to Message 1586980.  

I was under the impression the Quadro chip was a mobile-only variant.


I don't know if this is still needed for multi-GPUs setups in recent versions of BOINC, but you used to have to create a file called "cc_config.xml" in your BOINC data folder (default location is C:\ProgramData\BOINC, a hidden folder), containing the following lines:

<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>


Otherwise, by default BOINC only uses the first GPU device found by the BIOS/UEFI and ignores all others. Be sure to create the file in plain text / ASCII format. Then you can either go to BOINC Manager and select the Advanced dropdown menu and choose "Read config files", or you can simply exit and re-open BOINC.
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Message 1587092 - Posted: 15 Oct 2014, 11:10:48 UTC - in response to Message 1586778.  

Got to BIOS, GPU is enabled...it is listed in Device manager under Win7...updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500...and still I get message:

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.10878, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 76413))
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | app version refers to missing GPU type intel_gpu
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | SETI@home | Application uses missing intel_gpu GPU

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Memory: 7.89 GB physical, 15.77 GB virtual
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Disk: 100.00 GB total, 24.80 GB free

"updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500": - Where did you get the "updated drivers" from? (link)
Did you select to install the OpenCL part? (I don't know how the installation looks/works for iGPU - I don't have one)

BOINC do not detect the Intel OpenCL for GPU
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> will not work unless BOINC show "OpenCL GPU: Intel ..."
 


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Message 1587742 - Posted: 16 Oct 2014, 10:35:51 UTC - in response to Message 1587092.  

Got to BIOS, GPU is enabled...it is listed in Device manager under Win7...updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500...and still I get message:

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 2.1, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: Quadro 2000 (driver version 307.45, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 1024MB, 873MB available, 480 GFLOPS peak)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Intel(R) Corporation, driver version 3.0.1.10878, device version OpenCL 1.2 (Build 76413))
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | app version refers to missing GPU type intel_gpu
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | SETI@home | Application uses missing intel_gpu GPU

10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9]
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes nx lm vmx smx tm2 pbe
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Enterprise x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Memory: 7.89 GB physical, 15.77 GB virtual
10/14/2014 3:40:17 PM | | Disk: 100.00 GB total, 24.80 GB free

"updated drivers AGAIN for intel HD2500": - Where did you get the "updated drivers" from? (link)
Did you select to install the OpenCL part? (I don't know how the installation looks/works for iGPU - I don't have one)

BOINC do not detect the Intel OpenCL for GPU
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> will not work unless BOINC show "OpenCL GPU: Intel ..."


Drivers for Intel HD2500 were download from here!
Still no change...after restart Intel Control Console doesn't work...and still same error from BOINC...

Will try to install intel OpelCL SDK, as it is mentioned here, from this link.

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
has been inputed in cc_config...but didn't change a thing!

any new ideas?
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Message 1587778 - Posted: 16 Oct 2014, 12:57:25 UTC - in response to Message 1587742.  

You said that a new Nvidia card was added to the machine. That means that the monitor connection went from the motherboard video-outlet to the Nvidia card video-outlet.

Most graphics cards/chips require a monitor attached to the video-outlet for the card/chip to be recognized as an active GPU. If you do not have more than one monitor, there are options for this:

1. Use a dummy VGA plug. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can make one yourself.
2. Most modern monitors have both a VGA and DVI outlet. You can attach a cable to both and attach the other ends to the two graphics outlets on the Nvidia card and motherboard. It's possible that this also works with a HDMI cable.

There is a third option, but I am not sure if that works, I never tried that. Apparently you can check in the Nvidia graphics settings if it's possible to extend the desktop over both graphics cards.
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Message 1587785 - Posted: 16 Oct 2014, 13:33:13 UTC - in response to Message 1587778.  
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You said that a new Nvidia card was added to the machine. That means that the monitor connection went from the motherboard video-outlet to the Nvidia card video-outlet.

Most graphics cards/chips require a monitor attached to the video-outlet for the card/chip to be recognized as an active GPU. If you do not have more than one monitor, there are options for this:

1. Use a dummy VGA plug. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you can make one yourself.
2. Most modern monitors have both a VGA and DVI outlet. You can attach a cable to both and attach the other ends to the two graphics outlets on the Nvidia card and motherboard. It's possible that this also works with a HDMI cable.

There is a third option, but I am not sure if that works, I never tried that. Apparently you can check in the Nvidia graphics settings if it's possible to extend the desktop over both graphics cards.

Connected the one monitor to intel HD2500 & another to nVidia Quadro 2000...both videos work, but not GPU on intel...
restart of the BOINC, didn't work! :(

will try restarting!

EDIT: restart WORKED...it must be that, it needs dummy's or monitor!
I choosed dual cards on dual monitors...that way I speed up the processes in one of the Excel tables! and doing CREO only the biggest monitor powered by nVidia card... ;)


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Message 1588148 - Posted: 17 Oct 2014, 5:40:12 UTC
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Made a little instruction, how to do it yourself:
https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewpostinthread?post=472165

Hope someone who needs it, can use it!


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Message 1595025 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 18:36:01 UTC

The lack of some form of monitor (dummy or otherwise) connected to the on-board graphics explains one possible reason I can not get it to work. I think I will just accept that "It is not as simple as I hoped" and leave things as they are. Thank you all for your comments. :)

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Message 1595045 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 18:59:59 UTC - in response to Message 1595025.  

Why giving up? When you can get dummy probably for under a $1... ;)
Or buy yourself another monitor...some people took me for insane for hooking dual displays to dual VGA...and then I showed them how slow SETI@home makes a dual display...but not with the single display...not even on HD2500 intel...


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