Server for SETI@Home

Message boards : Number crunching : Server for SETI@Home
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

AuthorMessage
Profile Bernie Vine
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 May 99
Posts: 9954
Credit: 103,452,613
RAC: 328
United Kingdom
Message 1581773 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 11:39:58 UTC

Or does he mean as a cruncher?
ID: 1581773 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 22190
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 1581794 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 13:06:52 UTC

Certainly a thread better suited to Number Crunching...

That said, for a non-GPU cruncher not a bad machine, but probably not in the same league as a fairly simple i5 or i7 with a GTX980 (OK that would cost a fair bit more...)

Not withstanding that these processors are now at least a couple of years out of production, so are either residual stock or have been pulled from a server having been in (hard) service for an undefined time.
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 1581794 · Report as offensive
Profile tullio
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 9 Apr 04
Posts: 8797
Credit: 2,930,782
RAC: 1
Italy
Message 1581831 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 14:41:19 UTC

I am running 7 BOINC projects on 3 PCs, two Linux and one Windows 8.1..Only two of the 7 projects use graphic boards, while 2 projects from CERN use Virtual Box, and it seems that also CPDN is aiming at that solution, from what they said at Budapest. Only the Windows PC has a graphic board, the Linux boxes have not and they run CPU only tasks. All 3 have Virtual Box.
Tullio
ID: 1581831 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1581960 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 18:57:39 UTC

If you really just want a rack mounted machine there are companies that specialize in building systems from old off lease hardware. Such as http://www.savemyserver.com/. Where you can spec out your own system and get a warranty with it.

Based on the performance of my server with dual Xeon E5645s. I would expect the performance of a Xeon E5410 to be, at best, on par with my low power system using a Celeron J1900 or my old first generation Core i3-390M notebook.

Power consumption on '07 era hardware will also be pretty high for its given performance.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1581960 · Report as offensive
Profile Fred J. Verster
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 21 Apr 04
Posts: 3252
Credit: 31,903,643
RAC: 0
Netherlands
Message 1582014 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 22:08:26 UTC - in response to Message 1582009.  

Well just take your time browsing these forums, maybe take a look at the
SETI SERVER Page.

Considering the amount off data SETI has to handle, I don't even start
to explain the different SERVER job's and the sending and receiving off WU's.

There certainly will be someone far better at explaining the in 's and out 's
off the whole SERVER CIRCUS ;^)

Just take your time . . .
ID: 1582014 · Report as offensive
Profile HAL9000
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 11 Sep 99
Posts: 6534
Credit: 196,805,888
RAC: 57
United States
Message 1582052 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 23:07:38 UTC - in response to Message 1582009.  
Last modified: 4 Oct 2014, 23:08:24 UTC

Hey folks, sorry about posting a late reply to the thread I started. I posted it real early this morning when I was Browsing online and what I meant was a System to Crunch on. Something I could buy and use hear at home.

I was looking on Amazon and seeing a Xeon Server for that price I wasn't sure and hence and no experience with servers or their Capability overall.


I'm really taking an interest in SETI and thus have dedicated all my resources at home to the crunching of the SETI Project WU's I'm downloading and processing.

I was involved in Folding@Home for a good few years and have been looking for other DC Projects to take part in, I should of mentioned this all before and hence sorry for the late introduction..

I'm completely new to the Forums except a few Posts I've made asking Questions and still getting used to this layout. I don't even know how to use the Quotation tags. :LOL .. ..

So as for a System that would be able to Crunch the WU's on I was looking at a Rack Mount System for convenience hear at home in regards to space but looking for the power, I'm not a member of any team and just found the BOINC Stats page the other Day.

When it comes to Folding can I ask is the Credit Important in SETI. If you have Teams, their must be competition and if so, a bit like F@H its kinda like Flexing those GPUs or CPU's for the E-Penis and the most powerful system. Just looking mind you at the Teams, and the BOINC Stats page.

Whenever you are writing a post to the left there is a link that says [url=Use BBCode tags to format your text ]Use BBCode tags to format your text[/url] that has the instructions on how tags here work. Also on each message for an active thread there is a Reply & a Quote button.

As far as a cruncher systems goes. If you have a general idea of what you are looking for we can help point you in the best direction. If you are not really sure. Then you would just need to determine some basic things such as budget and power limits. At the moment the best performance per watt for the money would probably be a mid range CPU with a decent GPU or two & would probably run in the neighborhood of 150-300w.
SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours
Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[
ID: 1582052 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13731
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1582053 - Posted: 4 Oct 2014, 23:19:51 UTC - in response to Message 1582052.  

At the moment the best performance per watt for the money would probably be a mid range CPU with a decent GPU or two & would probably run in the neighborhood of 150-300w.

I have an E6600 & an i7 2600k, both have 2*GTX750Tis. With 2 LCD monitors on, total power usage is less than 500W.

For low cost & low power usage the GTX 750/750Ti can't be beat. 60W, maximum with crunching output on par with previous cards that used 200W.
If you've got the cash the GTX 970/980 are the way to go. Higher crunching output than any previous card, using only 145W/165W maximum. Previous cards required 250W.
And once new crunching applications are developed to take advantage of the new cards, their output will be even greater than it is now.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1582053 · Report as offensive
rob smith Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 22190
Credit: 416,307,556
RAC: 380
United Kingdom
Message 1582156 - Posted: 5 Oct 2014, 7:41:42 UTC

When it comes to Folding can I ask is the Credit Important in SETI


It is not possible to import credits gained on one project into another. However there a number of sites that show your combined credit for projects running under BOINC, which may be what you ar looking for.
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
ID: 1582156 · Report as offensive
Ianab
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 11 Jun 08
Posts: 732
Credit: 20,635,586
RAC: 5
New Zealand
Message 1582165 - Posted: 5 Oct 2014, 7:56:20 UTC - in response to Message 1582053.  
Last modified: 5 Oct 2014, 7:57:25 UTC

Like the guys say, GPUs are the best option if you want to increase your RAC. Modern tech, mid range card can get a good RAC with only a moderate power use.

650Ti is one option and doesn't need a fancy power supply or case cooling. Geforce 630 Series III is a budget option. But it only uses ~20w, so can run in pretty much any PC, and will do ~2,000 RAC. MUCH better value for money than an old dinosaur Xeon server.

So looking at the OP's machines, which ones can support a PCI-e card, and how good a one, and what's the budget?

Folks can help you out with suggestions if you describe the PCs better.
ID: 1582165 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13731
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1582167 - Posted: 5 Oct 2014, 8:17:44 UTC - in response to Message 1582165.  

650Ti is one option and doesn't need a fancy power supply or case cooling.

The 650Ti uses 110W, a GTX 750Ti will crunch as much work, and only uses 60W, so you could run 2 of them, get almost double the credit, and use the same power as a single GTX 650Ti.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1582167 · Report as offensive
Ianab
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 11 Jun 08
Posts: 732
Credit: 20,635,586
RAC: 5
New Zealand
Message 1582354 - Posted: 6 Oct 2014, 0:14:11 UTC - in response to Message 1582167.  

650Ti is one option and doesn't need a fancy power supply or case cooling.

The 650Ti uses 110W, a GTX 750Ti will crunch as much work, and only uses 60W, so you could run 2 of them, get almost double the credit, and use the same power as a single GTX 650Ti.


Oops, typo on my part, and you are correct. The 750Ti is the one you want.
ID: 1582354 · Report as offensive

Message boards : Number crunching : Server for SETI@Home


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.