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Message 1576496 - Posted: 23 Sep 2014, 11:08:01 UTC
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Who in the group uses tthrottle and what is your opinion of it as far as protecting your gpu?
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Message 1576552 - Posted: 23 Sep 2014, 14:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 1576496.  

I use tthrottle on three systems. I do not use it with the intention of protecting my GPU but rather the intention of managing power consumption so that I heat the room more when the room is cold and less when the room is hot.

I am mostly quite happy with the software and with its support but have had some problems including startup interactions which in my particular case have caused me to build custom startup batch files to control the sequence and timing of startup of four or five applications on my machines.
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Message 1576572 - Posted: 23 Sep 2014, 14:31:06 UTC - in response to Message 1576552.  

thanks archae86,
I usually run much more in winter than in summer, also to heat the place. I don't think I would want that on autopilot though. Good tip on startup problems.
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Message 1576606 - Posted: 23 Sep 2014, 20:34:06 UTC

I use it on my laptop, the room it's in has a south facing window so it gets a little toasty in the summer. Tthrottle keeps it from spontaneous combustion quite well :)

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Message 1578980 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 8:07:47 UTC

OK, I didn't have much of a response to my question, so I will broaden it and try again.

What do you think in general about programs such as tthrottle that 'throttle' your cpu/gpu to prevent damage to those parts?
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Message 1578998 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 8:37:46 UTC - in response to Message 1578980.  
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OK, I didn't have much of a response to my question, so I will broaden it and try again.


Simply maybe because you are asking in the wrong place, repeat your question on the tthrottle forum avaiable on the program site itself.
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Message 1579115 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 16:35:36 UTC

I have an SFF pc with low profile GF640 with bad cooling fan, GPU goes to >90C. I'm happy now with the control over GPU with Tthrottle, and again I can get GPU units from the project without worrying about GPU overheating.
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Message 1579119 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 16:55:06 UTC - in response to Message 1579115.  

Thanks Ivailo
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Message 1579121 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 16:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 1578980.  

OK, I didn't have much of a response to my question, so I will broaden it and try again.

What do you think in general about programs such as tthrottle that 'throttle' your cpu/gpu to prevent damage to those parts?

In my mind if you have to limit how much something runs to reduce it's heat output. Then in most cases money could have been saved by buying a slower part that puts out less heat and would run at 100%.

I would guess that many users would rather opt for better cooling solutions instead of using software to control temperatures. However for users that don't want to change their cooling solution there are software solutions like tthrottle.
Other times it is not possible to change the cooling solution for a system. Such as a notebook. As most notebooks are not really designed to dissipate the heat of running at 100% for extended periods of time. So if another method of cooling them can not be found software to limit how much they run must be used.
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Message 1579144 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 18:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 1579121.  

Thanks Hal,
That is really what I had been thinking, I couldn't quite feel right by using something like that on my machines. Right now I am fussing with dell on this new computer which is overheating. They have to correct it or refund or a better machine that won't overheat. I don't want to tthrottle it. So anyway, you said it exactly right. Thanks
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Message 1579193 - Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 22:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 1579144.  

Thanks Hal,
That is really what I had been thinking, I couldn't quite feel right by using something like that on my machines. Right now I am fussing with dell on this new computer which is overheating. They have to correct it or refund or a better machine that won't overheat. I don't want to tthrottle it. So anyway, you said it exactly right. Thanks

Although my Dell D600 laptop bought in 2006 as a refurbished system was able to maintain reasonable temperatures, it usually had its fan speed on high to do so. I went to the further step of undervolting it based roughly on the NordicHardware undervolting article. With that, it usually has the fan on low speed but will go to high periodically when ambient temperature is high.

That was made as a business class laptop with long battery life being a prime concern, which of course translates to it being fairly low powered to begin with. Running about 18% undervolted does drop the power and heat significantly and that laptop is approaching 8 years of 24/7 crunching.

Comments about tthrottle in this forum have been very favorable, I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I had a system which needed that help.

But I'd be considering other methods of either reducing heat produced or improving heat removal. Note that almost all modern CPUs and GPUs do have features which allow for undervolting and underclocking, I'd probably use those if I couldn't improve cooling. Because I am frequently testing new Lunatics builds, I prefer to avoid adding the variability tthrottle would introduce.
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Message 1579308 - Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 7:17:27 UTC - in response to Message 1579144.  

I don't want to tthrottle it.

Then set in TThrottle a bit higher temperature than the GPU is already running
If now GPU runs apps at 73°C set in TThrottle 75°C

This way no Throttle will happen unless temperature reaches 75°C

I think TThrottle can save the GPU even in a case of failure of cooling system (fan stops, water do not flow)
You can test this by intentionally low fan speed (manually set fan to e.g. 10% and monitor how TThrottle lowers the GPU load to maintain the temperature <= 75°C)
 


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