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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Looks like he who shouts his name is still up to his usual silly tactics. :-( which is why a lot of people are ignoring his posts or being advised just to ignore him altogether Cheers. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Cliff it is not just blacks who are being disenfranchised, it is any demographic group who might not back the conservatives. These include college students, the poor, and the elderly. -->rules-for-provisional-ballots-all-over-the-map<-- |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Gary IIRC computers as we know them were created primarly by the military. Ah you qualify your statement. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Gary IIRC computers as we know them were created primarly by the military. I'm not even sure that any computers were created by the military. The slipstick and gears have been around for a long time. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It does feel good to say Silly and Right/Left wing though doesn't it? Centrist?! ROTFLMAO Round about the caldron go; Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Capitalism produces the Jobs (Private and Government), which Provide the Almighty Consumer. Ah the great lie, Capitalism is here to serve you. No, its not, its only there to serve itself. If capitalism serves you in any way, if it provides you with a job and income in any way, its purely a byproduct of the capitalists self interest. The moment that self interest deems itself better off without you, your job and your income are gone. Does capitalism create jobs? Sure, when the self interest of capitalist dictates it requires people to further the capitalist's self interest more efficiently. But its far more likely to destroy jobs through various ways. Either by relocating jobs to low wage countries, soon by replacing people with robots and automated computer systems or by simply being successful and growing so big it simply wipes out huge chunks of the competitors. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I'm glad that I'm not the only 1 who sees "he who must shout his name" that way. The only thing that I can see that centrist about him is all the extremes that he, "he who must shout his name", covers while revolving around the center, but at great distances. ;-) Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Oh, did I hear someone shouting in here? It must of been my imagination again. Cheers. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Who said that? No one. Libertarians say it all the time ;) Don't believe The Government, as of now, is the correct solution. I have never mentioned the government in that post. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Regarding Government (State): The usual stated alternative to Capitalism (Private Enterprise) is Socialism (State Enterprise). Am I incorrect? laissez faire vs. command |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
What is their expertise? What new and successful products, have they launched? What large, successful Company's have they run? They run a country. I'd say thats sufficient proof of being capable of running a large scale organization. Perhaps that is also their weakness. They are best suited for running large scale organizations, while economic enterprises are generally a lot smaller. The thing is, if the government really wants to, it can perfectly run companies, even at a profit. All they need to do is hire the right managers to run the day to day operations. The idea that only a free market can run businesses effectively is just total nonsense. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24875 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
What is their expertise? What new and successful products, have they launched? What large, successful Company's have they run? Correct, but will the Snivel Serpents let them? The right managers would not hesitate to get rid of all "Dross" that permeates an organisation! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Who, or What, Commands.[sic] Irrelevant to economics. However, I'm sure it is highly relevant to baiting. So why don't we fill it in with "the Elders" Oh, wait. That doesn't fit in your preconceptions. You can't bait the hook with that one. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The usual stated alternative to Capitalism (Private Enterprise) is Socialism (State Enterprise). Am I incorrect? No, it is easy to see the west is evolving towards feudalism. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
You're joking. Aren't you? The only reason why your government is currently filled with idiots and incompetents is because you have been voting for idiots and incompetents. There is even a party that proudly states just how incompetent they really are and thats the reason people vote for them! But incompetence is not the natural state of a government. Again, they did manage to build up the country to where it is now. That is overwhelmingly due to government managing it, at least well enough so it didn't completely collapse, but in a lot of cases they even managed to leave place in a better and stronger state then when they got in office. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Correct, but will the Snivel Serpents let them? The right managers would not hesitate to get rid of all "Dross" that permeates an organisation! That is a fair question. Ideally a government run company is only owned by the government (majority share holder) but where the internal structure is otherwise completely politically independent. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Correct, but will the Snivel Serpents let them? The right managers would not hesitate to get rid of all "Dross" that permeates an organisation! Like the government owning a bunch of GM stock right when those ignition switches were being put in cars so they as shareholder may have to bear the costs of those lawsuits? Ah the sharks, er lawyers, smell blood, er unlimited deep pocket, in the water. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Like the government owning a bunch of GM stock right when those ignition switches were being put in cars so they as shareholder may have to bear the costs of those lawsuits? Ah the sharks, er lawyers, smell blood, er unlimited deep pocket, in the water. Remember how you can't sue the government? Aside from that, the hope would be that because the government would own those companies, the companies do become politically accountable in case something goes really wrong. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Since people DO vote for these people, and unless Humans evolve, will ALWAYS vote for these people: They werent back when they were voting for Kennedy, Roosevelt, Nixon or Reagan. Also, this is just the tiny top of the government were talking about. This is leaving out the very competent civil servants and bureaucrats who are the real people ensuring the country doesn't fall apart. And they are also the reason why the effects of idiots in congress or the white house have not had more devastating effects. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Having an occasional 'Good King', does not make Kingdom's correct. We are living in a world that becomes increasingly more and more complex every day. Its logical and necessary that this results in more government regulators. To put it simply, there is just so much more that needs to be regulated these days. |
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