For someone who complains about others "SHOUTING" you certainly have double standards of your own there CLYDE (BTW, highlighting is totally different to SHOUTING, if you can realise that that is).

Your posts are full of SHOUTS, not to mention SHOUTING your own NAME to start with, and you still bounce around all over the place, right, left, up or down, just as it suits you to get an argument out of others (as most of us reckon).

I'd really feel pretty sad for you CLYDE except for the fact that almost everytime that you post all I can see in my mind are pictures of either Sheriff Buford T. Justice or Sheriff J.W. Pepper talking your talk.

How you expect anyone to take you seriously at all is totally beyond me, but then again I'm probably to centered in all my ways to understand your bouncing personality at all (except that you do it for your own entertainment I take it?).

Though you really should re-read a lot of your posts because if you didn't realise it already you just come across to a lot of us as many types of "-ists" (the subject depends on the type of "-ist" that you display).

So really the only thing that you "hit on the head" is yourself, but thank you for letting us know how you think anyway and for keeping us entertained with your boring comedy. ;-)

Cheers.

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The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

That is a straw man argument. And for context, I speak as a 51-year-old white male liberal, who's lived his entire life in South Africa.

Stating that those who believe that Black People can't 'Make it' on their own, as other Races have, are themselves Racist, is a 'straw man' argument. Why?

Looks like I hit the 'nail on the head'.

Because "white liberals" don't think that.

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The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

That is a straw man argument. And for context, I speak as a 51-year-old white male liberal, who's lived his entire life in South Africa.

Stating that those who believe that Black People can't 'Make it' on their own, as other Races have, are themselves Racist, is a 'straw man' argument. Why?

Looks like I hit the 'nail on the head'.

Because "white liberals" don't think that.

Correct, only tea drinkers think like that.

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Anything WIGGO has said

WIGGO and His Thoughts = -1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Got TEA? I DO.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Got TEA? I DO.

Here's a cuppa, just for you, our resident, but rather dull, once-upon-a-time worm. ;)



(Definitely better than the Kool-Aid!)

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The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

That is a straw man argument. And for context, I speak as a 51-year-old white male liberal, who's lived his entire life in South Africa.

Stating that those who believe that Black People can't 'Make it' on their own, as other Races have, are themselves Racist, is a 'straw man' argument. Why?

Looks like I hit the 'nail on the head'.

Because "white liberals" don't think that.

Treating a Black People with less responsibility for their wrongful acts, than White/Asian person's. IE: "You have to understand".

Never heard a White Liberal say that about a White Hillbilly, with a third grade education, spitting chewing tobacco, and his mother and sister are the same person, committing a bad act, or saying something racist. While you hear this phrase continually, regarding some Black University Professor, or other Black Professional.

It is called: 'Bigotry of Low Expectations'.

What bit of "white people are treated with less responsibility for their wrongful acts than black people" are you not understanding, Clyde?

We've all explained it in so many different ways. It's almost as if you don't want to understand.

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(so now I'm getting that rotten smell of double standards here)

So CLYDE, when you question someone else's views that's all very fine and good, but when yours are being questioned it's a personal attack?

Also, "boring" isn't the word that I'd use, but I'll let you ponder that one. ;-)

As I can see no one but you, and our permanent member from the peanut gallery, disagreeing with my observations, it looks like I'm the one who's "hit the nail on the head", doesn't it?

And don't try pulling the old "hard done by act" either as it certainly does not suit you and I can't see you being a messenger either and so don't try pulling the "I win" garbage when you're nowhere near the winning line (if there ever was one to start with).

In the end we get it that things are greatly different in "CLYDE's Isolated World", but for the rest of us, we'll stick with the "real" world around us which you seem to go out of your way to avoid or understand.

Have a nice day anyway.

Cheers.

Neither Wiggo, nor Es99, understand, or fail to admit: I am NOT denying Racism, Institutional Racism, nor any other vile and evil things.

I believe Black People, as ALL Other Oppressed people, can succeed on their own.

Those White People, believing Black People can't: Are exhibiting the 'Bigotry of Low Expectations'.

That's all fine and well if anyone had actually said anything about holding that view. No one has. Which is why you've been accused of a straw man argument, missing the point and ignoring the facts.

All the personal attacks, denying, misrepresenting Posts, deflection from the above: Just confirms that truth.

Clyde, you are pretty much one of the worst people on this forum for personal attacks.

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All the personal attacks, denying, misrepresenting Posts, deflection from the above: Just confirms that truth.

Clyde, you are pretty much one of the worst people on this forum for personal attacks.

Es, I believe the word you are searching for is troll.

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All the personal attacks, denying, misrepresenting Posts, deflection from the above: Just confirms that truth.

Clyde, you are pretty much one of the worst people on this forum for personal attacks.

Es, I believe the word you are searching for is troll.

I hope that he is a troll. The alternative is that he actually believes what he says and that he actually used to be a policeman. :/

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Es, I believe the word you are searching for is troll.

I hope that he is a troll. The alternative is that he actually believes what he says and that he actually used to be a policeman. :/

Saying inflammatory things to citizens an officer encounters on the job may get them to react badly; you may earn brownie points for felony arrests such as resisting arrest.

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The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

That is a straw man argument. And for context, I speak as a 51-year-old white male liberal, who's lived his entire life in South Africa.

Stating that those who believe that Black People can't 'Make it' on their own, as other Races have, are themselves Racist, is a 'straw man' argument. Why?

Looks like I hit the 'nail on the head'.

Because "white liberals" don't think that.

Treating a Black People with less responsibility for their wrongful acts, than White/Asian person's. IE: "You have to understand".

Never heard a White Liberal say that about a White Hillbilly, with a third grade education, spitting chewing tobacco, and his mother and sister are the same person, committing a bad act, or saying something racist. While you hear this phrase continually, regarding some Black University Professor, or other Black Professional.

It is called: 'Bigotry of Low Expectations'.

What bit of "white people are treated with less responsibility for their wrongful acts than black people" are you not understanding, Clyde?

We've all explained it in so many different ways. It's almost as if you don't want to understand.

I think it is more a question of not being able too...
The reason is unknown though....

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Oh by the way. The Racial Aspect of this discussion, was started by other's. You know who they are.
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It now appears that you are unaware that this thread is about racism. Did you read the OP?

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Oh by the way. The Racial Aspect of this discussion, was started by other's. You know who they are.
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It now appears that you are unaware that this thread is about racism. Did you read the OP?

Of course he did, but when you want to construct straw all over the place, you need to change the subject all the time or it gets blown down.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/waynecrews/2014/10/26/hillary-clinton-businesses-dont-create-jobs-just-speaking-fees/

Hillary Clinton: Businesses Don't Create Jobs
Hillary Clinton’s October 24 speech supporting Martha Coakley, the Massachusetts Democratic gubernatorial candidate, covered standard progressive themes urging a larger state, as well as this attention-grabbing remark:

Hillary Clinton wrote:

Don’t let anybody, don’t let anybody tell you that, ah, you know, it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.

Really? Corporations and businesses don't create jobs?! So the government 100% plans from cradle to grave every second of your life! Well at least we know where she stands.

Now won't economists tell us corporations and businesses create jobs? Oh well, declare war on the middle class.

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Hummmm ... no one knew they needed a computer until they were available
no one knew they needed a iPhone until they were available
chickens and eggs

The government is your friend. Don't do anything wrong and you have nothing to fear. The government creates jobs. Yes, for lawyers!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/us/law-lets-irs-seize-accounts-on-suspicion-no-crime-required.html

ARNOLDS PARK, Iowa — For almost 40 years, Carole Hinders has dished out Mexican specialties at her modest cash-only restaurant. For just as long, she deposited the earnings at a small bank branch a block away — until last year, when two tax agents knocked on her door and informed her that they had seized her checking account, almost $33,000.

The Internal Revenue Service agents did not accuse Ms. Hinders of money laundering or cheating on her taxes — in fact, she has not been charged with any crime. Instead, the money was seized solely because she had deposited less than $10,000 at a time, which they viewed as an attempt to avoid triggering a required government report.

“How can this happen?” Ms. Hinders said in a recent interview. “Who takes your money before they prove that you’ve done anything wrong with it?”

The federal government does.

Using a law designed to catch drug traffickers, racketeers and terrorists by tracking their cash, the government has gone after run-of-the-mill business owners and wage earners without so much as an allegation that they have committed serious crimes. The government can take the money without ever filing a criminal complaint, and the owners are left to prove they are innocent. Many give up.

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Gary IIRC computers as we know them were created primarly by the military.

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Gary IIRC computers as we know them were created primarly by the military.

IIRC no general purpose computers were created by the military.

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Really? Corporations and businesses don't create jobs?! So the government 100% plans from cradle to grave every second of your life! Well at least we know where she stands.

I think she means the big business big corporations, 1% kinda types. Admittedly, it comes out rather clumsy.

As for the government seizing your property. Well thats not just the federal government, local law enforcements do it as well. And yes, its a disgrace that such a thing is even possible. Its downright state sanctioned highway robbery perputuated by the police who see it as an easy way of filling their departments leisure funds. John Oliver did a really good piece on this.

Cliff it is not just blacks who are being disenfranchised, it is any demographic group who might not back the conservatives. These include college students, the poor, and the elderly.

College Students, The Poor (They are on assistance), and The Elderly don't have Photo ID?

If ANYONE Doesn't have ID: They are allowed to vote! and are given a Provisional Ballot. Then their vote, after confirmation, by Both Parties, and other interested organizations, are counted.

The Disenfranchisement Ideologue's are again showing they have another agenda.

Anything new? No.

https://www.aclu.org/voting-rights/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/splc-founder-morris-dees-on-why-the-voting-rights-act-still-matters

Where are you getting that info they they can get a provisional ballot? Where are you getting the info that any of those forms of photo ID are acceptable for voting? Mind you there are multiple states involved so you will have to cite laws in each of those states.
http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html

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