The Book, The History of White People, delves into Slav [e] Based Economics in The U S A nicely.

Written by A Non-White.

I Did Not Know So Many White People were Slaves In This Country and So Many Died, doing Work for The Owners, mostly between 1620 and 1750. 'It' continued after, along with Africans.

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This is all true and I think I stated that point or came close to it in one of my posts here in the politics forum. Dr. Nell Irvin Painter did a marvelous job with that book, which is among many that she has done. Here's her home page http://www.nellpainter.com/. There is not a community that has come to these shores that have not been directly affected by slavery in America. This country was built on the economics of slavery. Of all of these communities only the African-American is still directly affected by it and unfortunately, I fear that the hate and venom towards my people for the last 500 hundred years may be just too great to completely eradicate. People nowadays are always saying that we cry too much and just get a job. But, the biggest thing that most people in the current times do not realize is that every time we take a major step forward, the hate and venom pushes us back two sometimes three.

To give you the most recent example you have to look no further back in time then 2007 when Senator Barrack Hussein Obama announced he was going to run for president of the United States of America. Sit down and remember all of the hate and vitriol that came out immediately after that announcement. Believe me when I say it was not about his politics - it was because he was the one African-American that fell through the cracks. He is the only president in this country that had to prove that he was a native born American by producing his birth certificate, and even then they didn't believe him. Over half of the Tea/Republicans in this country still don't believe that he is an American, or that he is not of the Muslim faith. The man had a dream/vision for this country that had it been given just a smidgen of a chance could very well have worked and could have brought all of us together as ONE PEOPLE.

Immediately after his inauguration, the Tea/Republican party sat in a restaurant, not too far from the capitol, and started to plan his demise as a one term president. If this old man's memory serves him right, and I could be mistaken, but not one Tea/Republican member of the federal government attended any of the celebrations of this historic election - not one. From the moment he took office, those on the other side and a few ultra-conservative Democrats I might add, opposed most everything he has attempted to do. I don't know if anyone here realizes this or not, but the greater majority of things that President Obama has attempted to do during his time in office originated as a Tea/Republican party idea, and they delayed the action or completely stopped him for doing it at all.

But, even through all of this, his administration has brought this country back from the pit of hell, the greatest financial depression since the 1929 crash. There has been a steady growth in jobs since his first election, except for the first few months. Can you imagine how far upwards this country could have grown if the Tea/Republican party had given him just that smidgen of a chance. They have labeled him the most radical president in our history, not because of his politics, but because of the pigmentation of his skin. And, before anyone hollers that there were Tea/Republican ethnic minority candidates in the 2010 & 2012 elections, be honest with me would you have voted for anyone on them. They were put there only for show to appear that the party was a big tent - major fail.

Jim Crow of yesterday has graduated college and is now James Crow [Esq] and his target is not just African-Americans anymore, as there are other minorities to attack now. The slave wages of fast food workers is affecting the economics of this country. The same can be said of the slave wage of seasonal migrant workers working in our fields bringing food to our tables, or the farmers and workers who are at the head waters of our morning coffee. Let's not forget equal pay for women, which the Tea/Republicans just stopped again in the Senate.

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Ah, Tea, formerly known as Dixiecrats, the loyal southern gentleman democrat.

Meltdown, Alan Greenspan's indirect fault, Ben Bernanke had to fix it in less than a week or the Great Depression would have seemed like a cake walk, and Mr. Obama got the coattails of the repair job. "Bernanke reportedly told them: 'If we don't do this, we may not have an economy on Monday.'" Yes, it was that bad!

Greenspan forced interest rates so high for so long that the real estate market went nuts and the banks driven by the CRA and Bear Stearns seeming ability to detoxify bad loans so they could be foisted off on Fannie and Freddie a/k/a the American Taxpayer. Watch out, it has started again, option ARM loans are being advertised.

If you don't understand the interconnections in these markets, you will never know how close the USA came to default. People decry TARP and the loans. What they don't realize is the USA taxpayer was on the hook for insurance on nearly every dime of debt that went bad. If the firms failed, the debt failed and then the USA failed. By keeping the firms afloat they could write the crap off over time and hopefully use profits to offset the staggering losses the crap represented. Most all of them were able to do so. Now as to GM, GM has a pension plan. Much to the average person's surprise pension plans carry similar insurance to your bank account, the taxpayer being on the hook. If GM went belly up then the USA had to bail out the pension plan. They chose to bail out GM and force it to bail out the pension plan. US got most all of the money back, instead of losing 100% of it.

It is a long complex and convoluted story parts of which are only today coming to light. Suffice it to say Bernanke had to do magic to keep the country, not just wall street, from imploding. Those who were fully briefed gave 100% support. The rest have no clue what "systemic risk" means.

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Anyone getting tired of the Left's believing in White Superiority? AKA, "White Man's Burden". Which was the Philosophy of Racist White Victorian's, in the 19th Century, and the present Philosophy of the White Left.

Why exactly do people from Black Africa, need anything from non-blacks to succeed, since the enactment of The Civil Rights Act of 1965? When NO OTHER oppressed Race, Ethnic Group, Religion, etc., needed any acceptance, in the past, or presently.

The non-racist answer is: THEY DON'T. Black People are as good, as anyone else, in achieving any result they wish. EXECPT Liberal White People don't believe it.

Liberal White People believe, as the Racist Victorian's did, that Black People cannot succeed without White Acceptance and Assistance. Unlike every other Oppressed people in the past, and presently.

The Foundation of White Left Racism, and the White Right Racism, is the same: Black People Can't Do It.

Only the House's they build upon their Racism, is different.

Not exactly. Generally liberal white people believe that African Americans are indeed just as capable as any other human being. BUT that the way the system is designed, they don't get the same chances and opportunities as white people. And the result is insufficient education and more poverty for African Americans, resulting in higher crime rates (where they also get punished more and harder since the justice system is also designed to be against black people), worse health and a greater need for social security.

There is a rather big difference when you say that African American people can't do it because they are black (which is purely racist) or noting the fact that African American people can do it, but just aren't given the same chance and opportunity to actually do it. That is not racist, that is simply a verified observation of the American socioeconomic system and its racist bias against African Americans.

Anyone getting tired of the Left's believing in White Superiority? AKA, "White Man's Burden". Which was the Philosophy of Racist White Victorian's, in the 19th Century, and the present Philosophy of the White Left.

Why exactly do people from Black Africa, need anything from non-blacks to succeed, since the enactment of The Civil Rights Act of 1965? When NO OTHER oppressed Race, Ethnic Group, Religion, etc., needed any acceptance, in the past, or presently.

The non-racist answer is: THEY DON'T. Black People are as good, as anyone else, in achieving any result they wish. EXECPT Liberal White People don't believe it.

Liberal White People believe, as the Racist Victorian's did, that Black People cannot succeed without White Acceptance and Assistance. Unlike every other Oppressed people in the past, and presently.

The Foundation of White Left Racism, and the White Right Racism, is the same: Black People Can't Do It.

Only the House's they build upon their Racism, is different.

Here is an excerpt from one of the posts that I made in the thread concerning cops killing people, and the post is about 1/2 way thru. Please pay very close attention to the quote of Chief Justice Roger B. Taney -

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Does anyone remember or have even heard of a Mr. Dred Scott. His quest for freedom for himself and his wife in St. Louis Missouri sparked the Civil War. Over many years his case was brought to the U.S. Supreme Court and lost. He eventually get his freedom, but it was not by the highest court in the land. He died before he could fully enjoy his freedom.

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In March of 1857, the United States Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, declared that all blacks -- slaves as well as free -- were not and could never become citizens of the United States. The court also declared the 1820 Missouri Compromise unconstitutional, thus permitting slavery in all of the country's territories.

Judge Taney is has also been quoted when referring to the language of the Declaration of Independence that includes the phrase, "all men are created equal,"

"it is too clear for dispute, that the enslaved African race were not intended to be included, and formed no part of the people who framed and adopted this declaration. . . ."

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You and I have been back and forth, round the corner, and down the street on this subject both online and off. If I remember correctly you're retired or at least semi-retired, so you should have enough time on your hands to invest in the documentary that was covered in the initial post of this thread. I also suggest the same for the book "The History of White People" by Dr. Nell Irvin Painter that was also suggested in this thread. Now, some people would say that these publications are biased and therefore racist in nature because they were produced by African-Americans. As I've said at least a couple of times To Know a thing, You must first begin to understand a thing, and this should be a good start. But, you must remember one thing to keep things in perspective and that is that white folks throughout history have always attempted to clean up their act by re-writing (whitewashing) it to fit their view of things.

Racism in any form is one of the most vile and despicable things in this world, and the only thing that I can think that is worse is war. But it's something that we have to live with in this day in age. But you take the quote by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney and drill it into people's heads by thought and deed, then percolate that thought all the way till today and you have James Crow [Esq.] and the Tea/Republican political party. There has not been any other group of people in this country that has been placed into slavery and then once "freed", more vilified, criminalized, disrespected, and penalized, this mostly through no fault of their own, then African-Americans.

You made a statement, part of which I've copied here.

The non-racist answer is: THEY DON'T. Black People are as good, as anyone else, in achieving any result they wish.

This is so very true and, believe me when I say, that it's something that all African-Americans believe very strongly in. The problem is that with the institutional racism that has been forced on us since day one, it is becoming more and more impossible, as a whole, to achieve. What better way to keep a people in line then to create laws that penalize them for what they do. For example let's take Drugs. As long as things like marijuana and cocaine stayed within the African-American community, everything was fine, even though the money made off of these drugs ended up in the highest link in the food chain, which co-instantly, happened to be white folks. When whites started inhibiting in these drugs, laws were created to penalize the offenders, and even though white use of these drugs were approx. the same and sometime greater population wise; especially in the suburbs, their punishment was extremely less severe than those posed on African-Americans. Even though statistics have proven without a shadow of a doubt that these laws were intended explicitly to punish minorities and especially African-Americans.

Vilification/Disrespect - Has there been any president in history who has gone through what this president has had to put up with? Let's see - Birthism, a standing member of Congress calling the president a liar in front of the entire said body. A governor pointing her finger into his face and yelling at him when he arrived in her state, etc. Stating he is the most radical president in history because he attempted to do things while Congress does nothing. He has signed the less executive orders (182) than any other of the last ten presidents, other than Gerald Ford (169). Wanting to impeach him for the modifications made to the Affordable care Act, while George W. Bush did the same exact thing when he introduced Medical Part D in 2003; which by the way was part of the most intensive overhaul of Medicare in its lifetime.

In 2000, HBO produced a outstanding movie called "The Tuskegee Airmen" in chapter 11, the commander, Lt. Col. Benjamin O. Davis, of the 99th Fighter Squadron was called back to Washington to defend his squadron from being disbanded. In doing so he stated and I paraphrase it here. "You invite us to a poker game, give us a fixed deck and wonder why we can't win..... I was bought up to believe that, beneath it all, Americans are a decent people with an abiding sense of integrity and fair play....... Are we only to be Americans when it suits you, a fair and impartial opportunity is all we ask. Nothing that you yourself wouldn't demand. He was promoted to full bird, and given brand new C & D model P-51 Mustangs. The segregated 302nd Fighter Group was created which included the 99th, and was sent from North Africa to Europe. BTW, the group was part of the air cover for the landing in Sicily and had more kills then any other outfit. The 1,000 plane raid on Berlin was covered by this same group and they weren't assigned - they were requested by white bomber pilots and shot down three German jet fighters, it is believed they were the first to do so. The 302nd ended up having one of the best records in WWII, and is the only outfit that NEVER lost a plane to enemy action.

A fair and impartial opportunity is all ask even today.

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The Foundation of you reply is incorrect, and possibly worse.

ALL other Racial Groups, Ethnic Groups, Religious Groups, etc. Were treated the same. See the want ads of The USA Newspapers, in the 1930's: NO Jews or Catholic's need apply. Didn't have to mention 'Negroes' nor Asians. THAT was understood.

Look at the Newspaper Editorial Cartoon, in NYC, during the 19th Century. Equating The Irish with Gorillas.

There has ALWAYS been 'Systemic' bigotry against 'others'. The difference has been the response. Understand Ancestral Slavery. But that was then. This is now.

ALL other Racial, Ethnic, Religious Groups didn't say to themselves 'we can't do this on our own' the System MUST help us. They said 'Screw You' we are going to advance WITHOUT you. We DON'T NEED YOU.

Really? You are equating the way Irish people were treated to the way black people were treated? Do tell, at what moment in America history were Irish people non persons? Treated legally and socially as non humans? At what point in American history were Jews forced to go to seperate special schools were only Jewish people were allowed to study. And at what point did the government need to call in the national effing guard to ensure that the first Jewish person could go to a non Jewish school? No matter how you spin it, no matter how bad white Jewish and Irish people had it at any point in American history, they still started from an infinitely better position with more chances and more opportunities than African Americans.

If you believe otherwise, then you really have no clue of your own history. I guess that is part of the problem, part of the reason why African Americans, decades after the repeal of Jim Crow laws, still have the odds stacked against him. Ignorance from the rest of the country who fundamentally have no idea just how bad they have treated African Americans.

The Foundation of you reply is incorrect, and possibly worse.

ALL other Racial Groups, Ethnic Groups, Religious Groups, etc. Were treated the same. See the want ads of The USA Newspapers, in the 1930's: NO Jews or Catholic's need apply. Didn't have to mention 'Negroes' nor Asians. THAT was understood.

Look at the Newspaper Editorial Cartoon, in NYC, during the 19th Century. Equating The Irish with Gorillas.

There has ALWAYS been 'Systemic' bigotry against 'others'. The difference has been the response. Understand Ancestral Slavery. But that was then. This is now.

ALL other Racial, Ethnic, Religious Groups didn't say to themselves 'we can't do this on our own' the System MUST help us. They said 'Screw You' we are going to advance WITHOUT you. We DON'T NEED YOU.

Really? You are equating the way Irish people were treated to the way black people were treated? Do tell, at what moment in America history were Irish people non persons? Treated legally and socially as non humans? At what point in American history were Jews forced to go to seperate special schools were only Jewish people were allowed to study. And at what point did the government need to call in the national effing guard to ensure that the first Jewish person could go to a non Jewish school? No matter how you spin it, no matter how bad white Jewish and Irish people had it at any point in American history, they still started from an infinitely better position with more chances and more opportunities than African Americans.

If you believe otherwise, then you really have no clue of your own history. I guess that is part of the problem, part of the reason why African Americans, decades after the repeal of Jim Crow laws, still have the odds stacked against him. Ignorance from the rest of the country who fundamentally have no idea just how bad they have treated African Americans.

Irish people were treated pretty poorly in the UK. So were the Gypsy's. I could tell you a story about something I learned while working for the government, but I signed the official secrets act so I am afraid I can't.

What I do remember is as a child even then seeing signs on hotels and businesses saying "no coloureds, no Irish"

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How the Justice System Mistreats Black People

"Justice is supposed to be colorblind, especially in America. But is this really true? Simply put: no. Black people in the United States face overwhelming racism within the criminal justice system.

This infographic from ArrestRecords.com provides an overview of how black people are disproportionately profiled, arrested, and convicted within the United States."

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Ignorance from the rest of the country who fundamentally have no idea just how bad they have treated African Americans.

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Ignorance from the rest of the country who fundamentally have no idea just how bad they have treated African Americans.

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You really believe people of Sub-Sahara Ancestry can't make it without White People?

Of course they can, IF THEY ARE GIVEN FAIR AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES. Which right now, they dont get.

You really believe people of Sub-Sahara Ancestry can't make it without White People?

Of course they can, IF THEY ARE GIVEN FAIR AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES. Which right now, they dont get.

Before 1964, your statement would be correct.

ALL the 'Jim Crowe' Laws were eliminated by 1964. It has never mattered to any other Discriminated Group, once these type of 'Laws' were abolished, if a large percentage of Groups, That Dislike anyone who aren't Them, still continue.

It has up to Black People, since 1964, to be responsible for their own success's or failure's, as EVERY OTHER Group, are responsible for their own success's or failure's.

Unless one believes Black people, unlike the 'Other' Races, Religion's, Ethnic Group's, etc., are Incapable, by reason of (fill-in the blank). Therefore, need 'Assistance', like Children.

Do you?

Oh right, because if you abolish a law, people magically stop being racists. People in the south were oh so tolerant of African Americans after the laws were gone. It totally wasn't a big deal when the first African Americans started to go to what used to be white schools.

Sure, after the Jim Crow laws discrimination was legally pretty much abolished, but that doesn't mean that people can't and don't discriminate anymore. Now its just hidden behind not calling African Americans back after they handed in their CV to apply for a job or giving African Americans harsher punishments under the law than white people or not giving them loans when they ask for one so they can buy a house or start a business.

Non of that is illegal, its all perfectly following the laws as they are and yet its robbing African Americans from their chances to advance up the social ladder.

You really believe people of Sub-Sahara Ancestry can't make it without White People?

Of course they can, IF THEY ARE GIVEN FAIR AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES. Which right now, they dont get.

Before 1964, your statement would be correct.

ALL the 'Jim Crowe' Laws were eliminated by 1964. It has never mattered to any other Discriminated Group, once these type of 'Laws' were abolished, if a large percentage of Groups, That Dislike anyone who aren't Them, still continue.

It has up to Black People, since 1964, to be responsible for their own success's or failure's, as EVERY OTHER Group, are responsible for their own success's or failure's.

Unless one believes Black people, unlike the 'Other' Races, Religion's, Ethnic Group's, etc., are Incapable, by reason of (fill-in the blank). Therefore, need 'Assistance', like Children.

Do you?

Oh right, because if you abolish a law, people magically stop being racists. People in the south were oh so tolerant of African Americans after the laws were gone. It totally wasn't a big deal when the first African Americans started to go to what used to be white schools.

Sure, after the Jim Crow laws discrimination was legally pretty much abolished, but that doesn't mean that people can't and don't discriminate anymore. Now its just hidden behind not calling African Americans back after they handed in their CV to apply for a job or giving African Americans harsher punishments under the law than white people or not giving them loans when they ask for one so they can buy a house or start a business.

Non of that is illegal, its all perfectly following the laws as they are and yet its robbing African Americans from their chances to advance up the social ladder.

The ONLY one's REALLY stopping ADVANCEMENT: Are those, because of Racial Bigotry, believing Black people, unlike ALL other's, are incapable of advancement on their own, against Discrimination.

The KKK 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Inferior Humans.

The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

I don't believe the above. Do you?

That is a very simplistic and one sided view of how white people view black people.

From what we've seen, it looks like white people view black people as dangerous, lazy, criminals. Surely you can imagine how that stereotype will affect how they are treated?
For example it makes them more likely to be shot by police. It makes them more likely to encounter police in the first place because of racial profiling. It makes them less likely to be offered employment.

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You really believe people of Sub-Sahara Ancestry can't make it without White People?

Of course they can, IF THEY ARE GIVEN FAIR AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES. Which right now, they dont get.

Before 1964, your statement would be correct.

ALL the 'Jim Crowe' Laws were eliminated by 1964. It has never mattered to any other Discriminated Group, once these type of 'Laws' were abolished, if a large percentage of Groups, That Dislike anyone who aren't Them, still continue.

It has up to Black People, since 1964, to be responsible for their own success's or failure's, as EVERY OTHER Group, are responsible for their own success's or failure's.

Unless one believes Black people, unlike the 'Other' Races, Religion's, Ethnic Group's, etc., are Incapable, by reason of (fill-in the blank). Therefore, need 'Assistance', like Children.

Do you?

Oh right, because if you abolish a law, people magically stop being racists. People in the south were oh so tolerant of African Americans after the laws were gone. It totally wasn't a big deal when the first African Americans started to go to what used to be white schools.

Sure, after the Jim Crow laws discrimination was legally pretty much abolished, but that doesn't mean that people can't and don't discriminate anymore. Now its just hidden behind not calling African Americans back after they handed in their CV to apply for a job or giving African Americans harsher punishments under the law than white people or not giving them loans when they ask for one so they can buy a house or start a business.

Non of that is illegal, its all perfectly following the laws as they are and yet its robbing African Americans from their chances to advance up the social ladder.

The ONLY one's REALLY stopping ADVANCEMENT: Are those, because of Racial Bigotry, believing Black people, unlike ALL other's, are incapable of advancement on their own, against Discrimination.

The KKK 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Inferior Humans.

The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

I don't believe the above. Do you?

You rig the game, making it hard for African Americans to win it, then you call the people who state that game is rigged bigots because they don't believe African Americans can win a game that is rigged and designed for them to lose. Right...

Well, good job on demonstrating how the system works to defend itself from potential reform.

ALL 'games' are rigged against some group, who eventually succeed.

Whites are, Blacks are, Asians are, Women are, Men are, Muslim's are, Catholic's are...

Anyone making the above statement is...

Don't have to answer the question. We know the answer.

Note: It really doesn't matter if the person is making these statements regarding his/her OWN Group. We all understand (To Use ONE Example), that Anti-Semites REALLY believes that ALL members if his/her group are Anti-Semites. Only they will not admit it.

This Evil is in the heart of the accuser.

The game is not rigged against white men. I am not sure what world you think you are living in if you don't understand this.

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ALL 'games' are rigged against some group, who eventually succeed.

Whites are, Blacks are, Asians are, Women are, Men are, Muslim's are, Catholic's are...

Anyone making the above statement is...

Don't have to answer the question. We know the answer.

Note: It really doesn't matter if the person is making these statements regarding his/her OWN Group. We all understand (To Use ONE Example), that Anti-Semites REALLY believes that ALL members if his/her group are Anti-Semites. Only they will not admit it.

This Evil is in the heart of the accuser.

The game is not rigged against white men. I am not sure what world you think you are living in if you don't understand this.

Oh come on. Never said it wasn't.

All I am saying is that Black People have the same Intelligence, Drive, and Ambition as any other group.

Obviously, you don't agree.

Obviously you don't understand what "obviously" means.

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ALL 'games' are rigged against some group, who eventually succeed.

Whites are, Blacks are, Asians are, Women are, Men are, Muslim's are, Catholic's are...

Anyone making the above statement is...

Don't have to answer the question. We know the answer.

Note: It really doesn't matter if the person is making these statements regarding his/her OWN Group. We all understand (To Use ONE Example), that Anti-Semites REALLY believes that ALL members if his/her group are Anti-Semites. Only they will not admit it.

This Evil is in the heart of the accuser.

White men came up with the game, the system works perfectly for them. And they decide who else gets to play the game and have a chance at winning.

Look, if you are going to deny to that structural and systemic racism is a part of today's American society, fine, then there is no point in further discussing this with you.

The Liberal White 'Racist Thinking' is that Black people are Inferior, and therefore MUST be considered Children. Who cannot be held responsible for their failure's, and do not expect any success's. They NEED Assistance from their 'Superior's'. AKA 'White Man's Burden'.

That is a straw man argument. And for context, I speak as a 51-year-old white male liberal, who's lived his entire life in South Africa.

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For someone who complains about others "SHOUTING" you certainly have double standards of your own there CLYDE (BTW, highlighting is totally different to SHOUTING, if you can realise that that is).

Your posts are full of SHOUTS, not to mention SHOUTING your own NAME to start with, and you still bounce around all over the place, right, left, up or down, just as it suits you to get an argument out of others (as most of us reckon).

I'd really feel pretty sad for you CLYDE except for the fact that almost everytime that you post all I can see in my mind are pictures of either Sheriff Buford T. Justice or Sheriff J.W. Pepper talking your talk.

How you expect anyone to take you seriously at all is totally beyond me, but then again I'm probably to centered in all my ways to understand your bouncing personality at all (except that you do it for your own entertainment I take it?).

Though you really should re-read a lot of your posts because if you didn't realise it already you just come across to a lot of us as many types of "-ists" (the subject depends on the type of "-ist" that you display).

So really the only thing that you "hit on the head" is yourself, but thank you for letting us know how you think anyway and for keeping us entertained with your boring comedy. ;-)

Cheers.

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