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Message 1575185 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 20:24:55 UTC
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Great confusion!
Why is Lump of rock or artwork in the message board Politics now?
Yes. Art are often Politics but frankly quite booring.

I dont think anybody knows here what political art is.
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Message 1575187 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 20:30:06 UTC
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Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

Good question! :)

Because I cannot sculpt ice (I'd LOVE to give it a gom although the chainsaw element does perturb me a little... :)) I would say an ice-carving IS art. Of a transitory form of course :) If that looks like I've just contradicted myself - move along please people!! There's nothing to see here! :) A stone carving will also be art - albeit much less transitory - depending on whether it appeals to the viewer I suppose :)

I would be more than happy to see this thread moved over to the politics forum. This has already been suggested to me as a sensible way forward, given the current ambience, and I agree.

Be careful what you wish for. Some of us have been holding back because it is not in the politics forum. ;)

:)))))))

@Janne - that art is irresistable... I must have it! *nyom* :)

edit: are we in politics now? I blinked and missed the move...
another edit: *astonished blink* We ARE!! Hello everyone :) again... :)
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Message 1575188 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 20:33:04 UTC

This topic should be thouroughly discussed imo.
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Message 1575209 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 20:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 1575187.  

@Janne - that art is irresistable... I must have it! *nyom* :)

Of course but what?
I have so many examples of great art and funny art.
I do have politcal art as well but here?
No I'm here for the fun.

Lets rock:)
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Message 1575213 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 21:05:30 UTC - in response to Message 1575183.  

I would really prefer not to see a discussion of what people consider to be art consigned to the dark pit that is politics.

If people remember that art is a personal thing no one is wrong to love or loath any artwork, so no insults should be traded.

I am interested to see what people here like and dislike.

Surely we can discuss art without insults?


OK strike all that, great pity.

Yes great pity.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19790411&id=BsomAAAAIBAJ&sjid=zo4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6211,1822626
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Message 1575219 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 21:14:48 UTC - in response to Message 1575213.  

I would really prefer not to see a discussion of what people consider to be art consigned to the dark pit that is politics.
If people remember that art is a personal thing no one is wrong to love or loath any artwork, so no insults should be traded.
I am interested to see what people here like and dislike.
Surely we can discuss art without insults?

OK strike all that, great pity.

Yes great pity.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1798&dat=19790411&id=BsomAAAAIBAJ&sjid=zo4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6211,1822626

Indeed. Art is a very important in our lives.
A World without Art...
Big horror.

So lets start all over.
http://www.albannachmusic.com/music/bareknucklepipesanddrums.html
One chord Music:)
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Message 1575240 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 21:45:54 UTC
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Three chord Music in G Minor from 1971.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUwEIt9ez7M
They even use flanger in the ending...
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Message 1575245 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 21:53:56 UTC - in response to Message 1568547.  
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Sorry moving a 340 ton rock from 1 place to another at a huge cost !.

WASTE FULL

A rock is still a rock no matter where you put it . It's only the arty farty types that see it as anything and they just go with what others say it's called being a sheep .

The painting of a rock is art .

The national monument of the president is art

Blue Polls is art but not the price that is just a rip off and rubbish art a 5yr old could do it with a big strong fan

It's like the cost of 2 match sticks outside the Sydney Art Gallery a waste of money and gets very old to look at after a while , 1 mach is harf burnt the other is not what the hell it is supposed to represent ??

How about how to rip big money out off silly ppl

That what i think of so called ART

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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock. Now where is my pet rock?
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Message 1575255 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 22:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 1575245.  

Sorry moving a 340 ton rock from 1 place to another at a huge cost !.

WASTE FULL

A rock is still a rock no matter where you put it . It's only the arty farty types that see it as anything and they just go with what others say it's called being a sheep .

The painting of a rock is art .

The national monument of the president is art

Blue Polls is art but not the price that is just a rip off and rubbish art a 5yr old could do it with a big strong fan

It's like the cost of 2 match sticks outside the Sydney Art Gallery a waste of money and gets very old to look at after a while , 1 mach is harf burnt the other is not what the hell it is supposed to represent ??

How about how to rip big money out off silly ppl

That what i think of so called ART

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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock. Now where is my pet rock?


:))))) I befriended and tamed one from the wild - but it reverted to type soon after... *sigh*
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Message 1575270 - Posted: 20 Sep 2014, 22:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 1575245.  
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A rock in it's natural setting can be a landmark. A rock that has been sculpted into the shape of something else may be artwork. A rock that has been used to form part of a structure is a building material. A rock that has been sculpted in place to commemorate an event is a monument. A rock that has been moved half way across a country and put on display is still just a rock.

And whats your Point?
A painting is made of canvas and some paint.
Rembrandt, da Vinci, Turner, van Gogh, Zorn...
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Message 1575310 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 0:20:16 UTC - in response to Message 1575187.  

Instead of an answer, I will supply a question, What is the difference between working in ice and working in stone? The ice is temporary and the stone is permanent but does that make one art and one not?

Good question! :)

Because I cannot sculpt ice (I'd LOVE to give it a gom although the chainsaw element does perturb me a little... :)) I would say an ice-carving IS art. Of a transitory form of course :) If that looks like I've just contradicted myself - move along please people!! There's nothing to see here! :) A stone carving will also be art - albeit much less transitory - depending on whether it appeals to the viewer I suppose :)

As I told you before, your special talent is in the area of art, something I am not very good at. The fact that you work in cake frosting means there is little difference between you and somebody who works in ice. As for ice carving, you don't have to use a chain saw, other tools are used as well, It's just that a chain saw is faster and more impressive. The big problem is making and holding the block of ice. Most people who are into ice carving have a walk in freezer - something not commonly found around the house.
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Message 1575324 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 0:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 1575310.  
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Most people who are into ice carving have a walk in freezer - something not commonly found around the house.

Not in Alaska, Siberia, Canada and Scandivia:)
Some winters we live in a freezer. Brrrrr
-30 C!
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Message 1575332 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 1:10:01 UTC

Art or Rock?

It can bring tears to people, so it has emotion, but it is just names on sliced rock.
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Message 1575343 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 1:26:53 UTC - in response to Message 1575332.  

Art or Rock?

It can bring tears to people, so it has emotion, but it is just names on sliced rock.

It bring tears to my eyes.
Washington memorial wall?
Yes true art!
Like this one
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Message 1575372 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 3:29:41 UTC - in response to Message 1575105.  

Anniet you made those cakes WOW your a master cheif girl .

You thought of trying out your craft on 1 of them cooking shows . I'm thinking the 1 that they take peoples recipes and turn them into household name brands and make a mint outa it .

very impressed ....yummmy
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Message 1575387 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 4:31:51 UTC

jeez. I see no resaon to have moved an honest if not spirited dialog on what is art to the cesspit of politics.


Well as everyone has there own definition of art and what constitutes art. I for one wont begrudge any person the right to say that what they call art is my junk and or vice a versa.
My opinion is that anything that man makes in whatever media can be called art, If even one person likes it.
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Message 1575404 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 5:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 1575387.  
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jeez. I see no resaon to have moved an honest if not spirited dialog on what is art to the cesspit of politics.

Me neither.
Art is very much politics but it its more.
We enjoy art everyday and it shouldn't be left to politicians (or moderators) to decide whats bad or good.
Big horror...
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Message 1575410 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 6:08:24 UTC - in response to Message 1575404.  

jeez. I see no resaon to have moved an honest if not spirited dialog on what is art to the cesspit of politics.

Me neither.
Art is very much politics but it its more.
We enjoy art everyday and it shouldn't be left to politicians (or moderators) to decide whats bad or good.
Big horror...


I must say it was most disconcerting :) I entered my edit window in the cafe and when I exited it... I was in here... TARDIS or magic? Who knows! :)
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Message 1575639 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 16:59:41 UTC

Jesus, what's next? Sex classed as politics?
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Message 1575641 - Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 17:05:49 UTC - in response to Message 1575639.  

Jesus, what's next? Sex classed as politics?

US! Wake up! It's the 20th Century!

yes 2014!
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