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Message 1565706 - Posted: 1 Sep 2014, 15:53:09 UTC

Among other projects, I use the SETI@home as my screensaver. I noticed that I don't get any graph on the bottom section, just the small graph on the top-left. Is this normal? Do some tasks not show a graph? No big deal, but it would make a great screensaver.
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Message 1565781 - Posted: 1 Sep 2014, 18:25:48 UTC - in response to Message 1565706.  

The missing graph at the bottom of the screen saver is a known issue with Intel HD graphics that is still unresolved as of yet.
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Message 1565956 - Posted: 1 Sep 2014, 23:49:56 UTC - in response to Message 1565781.  

So it'll work once I get a graphics card (AMD)?
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Message 1566137 - Posted: 2 Sep 2014, 12:27:22 UTC - in response to Message 1565956.  

Once you buy an AMD graphics card, you'll be able to use it for crunching. The screen saver will not work if the GPU is crunching workunits; you'll get a standard BOINC screen saver instead.
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Message 1566265 - Posted: 2 Sep 2014, 22:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1565956.  

- The SETI@home screensaver have no known problems to show all the graphics on NVIDIA and ATI AMD (if the monitor is connected to them)

The following is not graphics card dependent:
- The BOINC screensaver (which in turn invokes the projects screensavers) in some versions of BOINC may have a 'flicker' problem which is fixed in the last 'Development version'
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

- on SETI@home only the CPU apps have graphics part = you can see the SETI@home screensaver only when some SETI@home task runs on the CPU (no matter if another runs on GPU)
 


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Message 1580701 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 22:15:32 UTC

Hi,
I run a Nvidia setup, but for when I run screensaver (all 8 cores 100%),
GPU crunching disabled. (both intel and nvidia)
I get the upper graph working fine, but the 3d bottom one stays blank.
Any pointers?
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Message 1580725 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 23:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 1580701.  

You may have GPU crunching disabled, but that doesn't tell us which of the two GPUs your notebook uses for showing OpenGL output. Yet since you state that you're missing the bottom half, I can easily assume it is the built-in Intel GPU. Until Intel releases newer OpenGL drivers with a fix for this, it isn't going to be fixed anytime soon.

It isn't a problem with the graphics/screen saver program as this works without problems on AMD and Nvidia GPUs, just not on built-into-the-CPU Intel GPUs.
Perhaps that there is a way (in the BIOS/UEFI) to force your notebook to use the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel GPU.
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Message 1580812 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 4:31:47 UTC - in response to Message 1580725.  

You may have GPU crunching disabled, but that doesn't tell us which of the two GPUs your notebook uses for showing OpenGL output. Yet since you state that you're missing the bottom half, I can easily assume it is the built-in Intel GPU. Until Intel releases newer OpenGL drivers with a fix for this, it isn't going to be fixed anytime soon.

It isn't a problem with the graphics/screen saver program as this works without problems on AMD and Nvidia GPUs, just not on built-into-the-CPU Intel GPUs.
Perhaps that there is a way (in the BIOS/UEFI) to force your notebook to use the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel GPU.


First off, it's obviously not a notebook if it has an Nvidia GPU Ageless. :-P

In BIOS, find the settings for onboard graphics, also called integrated graphics. Look for the mutli-monitor setting. If this is off, the onboard GPU will be disabled when the other video card is plugged in. However, you won't be able to use the onboard for crunching. The other thing would be to plug your monitor into the Nvidia GPU, but I'm assuming you already did that.
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Message 1580859 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 8:14:18 UTC - in response to Message 1580812.  

Actually, it is a notebook.
It has a motherboard intel gpu, in addition to the Nvidia one.
I have no problem chrunching with both GPU's but then of course without the screensaver entirely.
With only CPU chrunching, everything execept the 3d lower graph works just fine.

Thank you guys, I' ll wait in eternety for Intel then, haha.

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Message 1580869 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 8:49:00 UTC - in response to Message 1580859.  
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You still don't understand?!
Attach the monitor to the NVIDIA

If only one monitor port exists - make sure it outputs only signal from the NVIDIA
(by selecting this in BIOS or the OS, there have to be such setting)

(Intel have this bug for 2-3 years which means it will not probably be changed/fixed)
 


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Message 1580870 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 9:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 1580812.  

First off, it's obviously not a notebook if it has an Nvidia GPU Ageless. :-P

Aside from that the owner now confirmed that it is a notebook, I'd like to know why you would think a notebook can't have an Nvidia GPU together with an Intel GPU? Or why a notebook can't have an Nvidia GPU, period?

But alas, sit back and learn. When clicking on Silentgrave's name, then going to their computers list you can read under the GPU heading that they have an "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M (3072MB) driver: 327.65 OpenCL: 1.1, INTEL Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 (1784MB) OpenCL: 1.2".

The M behind the GPU stands for Mobile. Giving you a clue already that this isn't a card sitting in a desktop, because what use is a mobile graphics chip in a desktop computer? When you then put Nvidia 770M into Google.com, you'll find a whole lot of reviews of this GPU and the notebooks it is in.

If we knew which notebook Silentgrave uses specifically (brand and model number), we'd probably be able to find a manual in PDF format which tells us if it's possible to switch from the one dedicated GPU to the other and how to do that.
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Message 1580910 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 12:58:07 UTC - in response to Message 1580870.  

First off, it's obviously not a notebook if it has an Nvidia GPU Ageless. :-P

Aside from that the owner now confirmed that it is a notebook, I'd like to know why you would think a notebook can't have an Nvidia GPU together with an Intel GPU? Or why a notebook can't have an Nvidia GPU, period?

But alas, sit back and learn. When clicking on Silentgrave's name, then going to their computers list you can read under the GPU heading that they have an "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M (3072MB) driver: 327.65 OpenCL: 1.1, INTEL Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 (1784MB) OpenCL: 1.2".

The M behind the GPU stands for Mobile. Giving you a clue already that this isn't a card sitting in a desktop, because what use is a mobile graphics chip in a desktop computer? When you then put Nvidia 770M into Google.com, you'll find a whole lot of reviews of this GPU and the notebooks it is in.

If we knew which notebook Silentgrave uses specifically (brand and model number), we'd probably be able to find a manual in PDF format which tells us if it's possible to switch from the one dedicated GPU to the other and how to do that.


Oops. :o I didn't know you could put a graphics card in laptops and notebooks.
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Message 1580943 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 13:53:25 UTC - in response to Message 1580910.  

Well, technically speaking this isn't a card, but a chip. One built into the motherboard of the notebook, as opposed to the Intel HD 4600 GPU which is built into the Intel CPU.

But yeah, you can have a notebook or laptop with more than one graphical output. Even if it's a Macintosh. This, so you can either use it for GPGPU calculations, or to attach more than one external monitor. :)
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