17% of the USA's oil comes from the Middle East.

This thread seems to have interchanged with the Middle East timebomb thread! This thread was supposed to be specifically about ISIS and the other one about general Middle East matters. They could almost be merged now ....

Uhh... no.

The 17% figure goes up and down.

Last data I see says its about 22.7% (July 2014)... BUT that is not '%' of our oil in total... that is '%' of our IMPORTS.

We are importing about 9.7 million barrels per day, of which only about 2.1 million barrels per day comes from the Persian Gulf region.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbblpd_m.htm

Our use of oil per day in 2013 was about 18.89 million barrels.

http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=33&t=6

So, the percent of our oil that comes from the 'middle east' is only about 11%.

If we had to do without it, sure it might be a small problem in the short term. But our own production is ramping up, despite the best efforts of the Obama administration to stop it. Any pain to our economy would be short term.

I am highly tempted to say 'go for it!' and stop importing mid-east oil. We don't really need it.

Kong if you did that the iternational oil price would dive and then you may find that all that oil in Canada may just stop because it needs to be above $70 to be profitable and the oil company's need it to be above $80 so they can expand the tar sands and make more .

So not a good idea for America but hey we don't mind cheaper oil so go for it

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Gary that is not true your still buying oil from the middle east just not as much because as you say your stuffing up Canada now and ruining there pristine environment.

Glenn, are you asking about me personally or the USA in general. Personally I'm buying Canadian extraction and pipeline. As to what goes in my car, here in LA sitting in the middle of a huge oil field with refineries, I'd wager better than 95% of it comes from US crude.

As to the USA http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-04/u-s-seen-as-biggest-oil-producer-after-overtaking-saudi.html

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Gary that is not true your still buying oil from the middle east just not as much because as you say your stuffing up Canada now and ruining there pristine environment.

Totally not true, the Canadians are doing the tar sand mining and if we don't take it they will sell it to China. That position has been publicly explored up there.

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Oh right i forgot some here don't know what humor is .

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There's nothing humorous in war.

Sirius the post had nothing to do with war mate . And a little humour even in a serious thread is all ways good to call a time out and relax a bit

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Oh right i forgot some here don't know what humor is .

Well, well, Well. Dr. HO HUM is LHFAO.

HO HUM, Beat dAt Belly Laugh Drum.

There's nothing humorous in war.

Been A Lot of WHOOOOO HOOOOOOOin' When 'They' Create a Nice RED MIST.

So Jollies, not Humor

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/10/07/6182968/carter-unhappy-with-obamas-policies.html?rh=1

A good read. The portion of the news story on topic for this thread:

FORT WORTH -- Former President Jimmy Carter put down his hammer at a Meadowbrook Habitat for Humanity project Tuesday for a wide-ranging interview that touched on subjects such as the Obama administration’s use of drones, women’s rights and faith.

“I really object to the killing of people, particularly Americans overseas who haven’t been brought to justice and put on trial,” he said. “We’ve killed four Americans overseas with American drones. To me that violates our Constitution and human rights.”

In May 2013, the Obama administration acknowledged that it had killed four American citizens in drone strikes in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2009.

Carter said it was hard to figure out exactly what President Obama’s policy is in the Middle East.

“It changes from time to time,” Carter said. “I noticed that two of his secretaries of defense, after they got out of office, were very critical of the lack of positive action on the part of the president.”

Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta was the most recent to criticize Obama, in remarks he made to USA Today while promoting his new book, Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace.

Carter acknowledged that the ISIS situation is complicated and he thinks the U.S. waited too long to respond.

“First of all, we waited too long. We let the Islamic state build up its money, capability and strength and weapons while it was still in Syria,” he said. “Then when [ISIS] moved into Iraq, the Sunni Muslims didn’t object to their being there and about a third of the territory in Iraq was abandoned.”

Carter sees some hope for the current American policy against ISIS in Iraq where troops on the ground will follow up after air strikes.

“If we keep on working in Iraq and have some ground troops to follow up when we do our bombing, there is a possibility of success.”

No such ground troops are available in Syria at the moment, he said.

“You have to have somebody on the ground to direct our missiles and to be sure you have the right target,” Carter said. “Then you have to have somebody to move in and be willing to fight ISIS after the strikes.”

Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

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Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

Who do you refer to, Julie?

Former U.S. President Carter (D - Ga.) who at 90 years old still spends much of his time physically building houses for poor people (Google 'Habitat for Humanity')?

Or Current U.S. President Obama (D - ??) who has spent his time in office doing a good job of making the mess that Dubya left us worse?


If ANYONE has a RIGHT to criticize Obama's job, I would think it would be Carter, the oldest living former President who is from the same political party as Obama.

Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

You know he could stop shoveling it up on his shoulders, but being from the Chicago Politician School of Olfactory Delights, I don't think he knows how to stop.

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I'm just saying Obama is watched with Argus eyes from all over the world, wouldn't want to stand in the poor man's shoes...

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Julie he deserves what his heaped upon him. And much of it, Is his own doing.
The man has no foreign policy. And not one of his lackeys know what do either. The ones that did left the sinking ship.
He is twice as bad as Carter ever was. And the worst part is the bozo still has 2 years to go.

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Old James

He's way better than Reagan, Nixon, Clinton or Bush tho.

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i agree Julie . He inheritad a mess from J.W.B and hasn't done to bad .

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Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break?

What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'?

Julie...

Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree.

Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama.

I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL)

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Eggs....

Balls...

ROFLMAO... very entertaining choice of words, Julie.

Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break?

What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'?

Julie...

Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree.

Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama.

I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL)

Everyone who has graduated from the Chicago Politician School of Olfactory Delights has become hard boiled and has oversize cojones.

And I know Julie has no clue about Chicago Politics, the place Obama started.
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/989.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/recycled/2008/12/why_is_chicago_so_corrupt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago

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Just a thought.

Carter 'Putting Down' Obama?

Always thought of Obama as Carter II. But Obama has proven worse.

Give the man a break will ye, he has a s**t load of weight on his shoulders...

Did/Does anyone give Bush Jr. a break? Reagan a break? Bill Clinton a break?

What makes Obama different than any other President? Why can't HE 'Take It'?

Julie...

Apparently you believe Obama 'Can't Take It'. I agree.

Therefore, the old saying 'If you can't take the heat - get out of the kitchen' must apply to Obama.

I'm not that familiar with US politics Clyde. I just think Obama is too much of a soft boiled egg to handle his 'job'. I don't think he's a bad person, he just doesn't have the balls some of his predecessors did have but used the wrong way. (Clinton Certainly used them the wrong way LOL)

Everyone who has graduated from the Chicago Politician School of Olfactory Delights has become hard boiled and has oversize cojones.

And I know Julie has no clue about Chicago Politics, the place Obama started.
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/989.html
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/recycled/2008/12/why_is_chicago_so_corrupt.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_history_of_Chicago

Thanx for the links Gary, I remembered something about the corruption scandals in Chicago politics. Are you trying to say Obama is corrupt? As I said before I really don't follow abroad politics that much but I would be surprised if that were the case.

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