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Message 1569171 - Posted: 8 Sep 2014, 14:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 1569169.  
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Correct me if I am wrong.
The British Navy did not, in fact, SINK The Bismarck.
The British Navy had already expended its torpedo's, and The Bismarck was still afloat. With its engines still operational, but no steering. Its entire armament's destroyed. The British Navy was running low on fuel, and started a withdrawal from the conflict. To return later, and 'Finish' the job.
I believe it was the German Officer's aboard The Bismarck, who 'scuttled' the ship, thereby not allowing The British Navy to Capture The Bismarck.
It does bring a smile to my face, thinking about The British, using The Bismarck as 'War Scrap', to defeat Hitler.

It was listing badly and completely on fire, it would have gone down before long.
Whether or not they hastened the end by scuttling it doesn't matter, that ship was toast.

From wikipedia
Unsinkable Sam (also known as Oskar or Oscar) was the nickname of an alleged German ship's cat who reportedly saw service in both the Kriegsmarine and Royal Navy during the Second World War, serving on board three vessels and surviving the sinking of all three
The black and white patched cat had been owned by an unknown crewman of the German battleship Bismarck.He was on board the ship on 18 May 1941 when it set sail on Operation Rheinübung, Bismarck's first and only mission. Bismarck was sunk after a fierce sea-battle. Hours later, Oskar was found floating on a board and picked from the water, the only survivor to be rescued by the homeward-bound British destroyer HMS Cossack. Unaware of what his name had been on Bismarck, the crew of Cossack named their new mascot "Oscar"

http://www.ww2incolor.com/art/SamGeorfinaShawBakerGreenwich.html
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Message 1569503 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 6:43:31 UTC - in response to Message 1569167.  

The former captain of HMS Ark Royal? Is he alive?
In the WWII there were a famous air craft carrier called that.
I Think HMS Ark Royal chased Bismark and sank her by torpedoes launched from aeroplanes.

That Ark Royal took part in the search but didn't contribute to the sinking.
Bismarck was sunk by the battleships King George V and Rodney, along with the heavy cruisers Dorsetshire and Norfolk.

Correct me if I am wrong.

The British Navy did not, in fact, SINK The Bismarck.

The British Navy had already expended its torpedo's, and The Bismarck was still afloat. With its engines still operational, but no steering. Its entire armament's destroyed. The British Navy was running low on fuel, and started a withdrawal from the conflict. To return later, and 'Finish' the job.

I believe it was the German Officer's aboard The Bismarck, who 'scuttled' the ship, thereby not allowing The British Navy to Capture The Bismarck.

It does bring a smile to my face, thinking about The British, using The Bismarck as 'War Scrap', to defeat Hitler.

My correction:
HMS Ark Royal chased Bismarck and hit her by torpedoes and her rudder.

According to German data Bismarck blew up on the orders of the Kapitän zur See Ernst Lindemann, and / or opened the sea cocks. The latter is supported by the wreck on the bottom not implode by water pressure, which indicates that Bismarck been filled with water.

Do we see anything like this anymore where soldiers are showing mercy?
Survivors from the Bismarck are pulled aboard HMS Dorsetshire on 27 May 1941.
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck_(slagskepp)#mediaviewer/File:HMS_Dorsetshire_Bismarck_survivors.jpg

Yes they pulled some survivors out of the water. They also left a lot in the water. The reason given was they feared U-boats were near or closing in.
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Message 1582246 - Posted: 5 Oct 2014, 16:08:27 UTC - in response to Message 1569166.  

The former captain of HMS Ark Royal? Is he alive?
In the WWII there were a famous air craft carrier called that.
I Think HMS Ark Royal chased Bismark and sank her by torpedoes launched from aeroplanes.

That Ark Royal took part in the search but didn't contribute to the sinking.
Bismarck was sunk by the battleships King George V and Rodney, along with the heavy cruisers Dorsetshire and Norfolk.

Correct me if I am wrong.

The British Navy did not, in fact, SINK The Bismarck.

The British Navy had already expended its torpedo's, and The Bismarck was still afloat. With its engines still operational, but no steering. Its entire armament's destroyed. The British Navy was running low on fuel, and started a withdrawal from the conflict. To return later, and 'Finish' the job.

I believe it was the German Officer's aboard The Bismarck, who 'scuttled' the ship, thereby not allowing The British Navy to Capture The Bismarck.

It does bring a smile to my face, thinking about The British, using The Bismarck as 'War Scrap', to defeat Hitler.


The Royal Navy did sink the Bismark. It may or may not be true about the scuttling charges, and it is highly likely these were used to be 100% sure she sank before the British could board, as that was a very real concern. However all those who have visited the wreck and seen the damage first hand have concluded that although the torpedo hits had not breached the inner torpedo walls, there was sufficient damage that the vessel was severally comnpromised and would have sunk within 12-24 hours regardless of the scuttling charges.

I think had the Hood not been sunk, at least in such a dramatic fashion, then capturing the Bismark may have been a real possibility due to the propaganda value, however with the loss of Hood in such a dramatic fashion the order from Churchill was "Sink the Bismark at all costs"...it's fate was sealed.
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Message 1594130 - Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 0:06:20 UTC

Australia's 1st taste of ‘Lone wolf’ terrorism by middle eastern persons happened well before al Qaeda and ISIS were even thought of.

http://www.news.com.au/national/anzac-day/lone-wolf-terror-strike-brought-death-and-fear-to-australia-a-century-before-al-qaeda-and-isis/story-fnmewwpe-1227106765096

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Message 1594394 - Posted: 30 Oct 2014, 14:48:45 UTC
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'You will be shot down': What RAF typhoon pilot told Latvian cargo plane after it sparked terror alert by veering off course over London forcing fighter jets to scramble
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2812950/RAF-jets-intercepting-Latvian-cargo-plane-cause-huge-sonic-boom-Kent.html
Russia thinks this is funny.
Media reports mirrored the panic frenzy triggered by the incident, but in a peculiar way: first saying that the cargo plane was “Russian” and then switching to a “Russian-made” reference.
Both takes were wrong: the Antonov design bureau, the producer of An-26 planes, is a Ukrainian company founded in Soviet times, and the plane in question belonged to a Latvian-registered company, ironically called RAF-Avia.
However, the British media seemingly capitalized on the latest NATO reports of “unusual” increased activity of Russian military aircrafts over the Atlantic and the Black Sea.

http://rt.com/news/200695-uk-jets-latvian-plane-attack/
Russia Thinks that the UK and Sweden are blaming them for all military aircrafts and submarines violations against us.
Who else to blame?

An unusual number of Russian military planes in the air .
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fovanligt-manga-ryska-militarplan-i-luften%2F&edit-text=
http://www.shape.nato.int/nato-tracks-largescale-russian-air-activity-in-europe.aspx
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Message 1595638 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 17:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1594130.  
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Australia's 1st taste of ‘Lone wolf’ terrorism by middle eastern persons happened well before al Qaeda and ISIS were even thought of.

http://www.news.com.au/national/anzac-day/lone-wolf-terror-strike-brought-death-and-fear-to-australia-a-century-before-al-qaeda-and-isis/story-fnmewwpe-1227106765096

Cheers.

But remember, that attack was not based on any religious issue. It was because they were Turks and Australia was at war with Turkey. They saw themselves as patriots, not jihadists. The article is a typical News Ltd twisting of the facts. There are significant differences between that article and the story as it is told in Broken Hill.

EDIT: Also note the way the "journalist" uses the article to beat up further anti-Islam paranoia. They're all out to get us Wiggo, all out to get us. :P

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Message 1595796 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 2:20:05 UTC - in response to Message 1595638.  

Thanks Terror i did not know about that .
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