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Message 1565001 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 16:34:51 UTC

Some Canadian NATO person tweeted about this...

http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/kanada-och-ryssland-i-bitsk-twitterfejd/

Well, if covering chocolate bars with wrong map anything can happen.
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Message 1565002 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 16:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 1564992.  
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Process has started... :)
Kazakhstan may leave EEU if its interests are infringed: Nazarbayev said...
"Kazakhstan has a right to withdraw from the Eurasian Economic Union if its interests are infringed, President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev reminded in an interview to Khabar TV Channel.
"If the rules set forth in the agreement are not followed, Kazakhstan has a right to withdraw from the Eurasian Economic Union. I have said this before and I am saying this again. Kazakhstan will not be part of organizations that pose a threat to our independence. Our independence is our dearest treasure, which our grandfathers fought for. First of all, we will never surrender it to someone, and secondly, we will do our best to protect it," the President said."
See more at: http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/Kazakhstan-may-leave-EEU-if-its-interests-are-infringed-Nazarbayev-255722/
P.S. Get out from Ukraine and Crimea also, towheaded!

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Yes I have always heard good things about the kazahk people and their friendliness.
Vladimir Smirnov. He moved to Sweden in 1991. First Olympic champion from independent Kazakhstan.
He is like the Ukrainian former pole vaulter Sergey Bubka. A true gentleman.

http://en.tengrinews.kz/politics_sub/President-Vladimir-Putin-of-Russia-on-Kazakhstan-and-its-future-255793/
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Message 1565003 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 16:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 1565001.  

Some Canadian NATO person tweeted about this...
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/kanada-och-ryssland-i-bitsk-twitterfejd/
Well, if covering chocolate bars with wrong map anything can happen.

"This is probably the most aggressive action Canada has taken since 1812," writes Kelsey D Atherton, referring to the war of 1812 when the United States invaded the British possession, Canada, but was repulsed.
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Message 1565046 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 19:00:13 UTC
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Here is some news today from Finland and Estonia (Estland). Neighbors to Russia not far away from St Petersburg.

Finland plans large-scale military exercise on Russian border
Defence forces announced on Saturday that up to 8,000 reservist troops will undergo training in the eastern region of Pielinen Karelia in June 2015.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/finland_plans_large-scale_military_exercise_on_russian_border/7443126
Red flag for Pielinen Karelia on Google Maps.
https://www.google.se/maps/place/Pielisj%C3%A4rvi,+Finland/@60.0908528,30.4155119,6z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x469cdcb1f8e36309:0x4c95189fc2f37815

Finnish Defence Force lists ten years of airspace violations
http://yle.fi/uutiset/finnish_defence_force_lists_ten_years_of_airspace_violations/7442575

Commander in Chief of the Estonian Defense Forces Maj. Gen. Riho Terras said the involvement of regular Russian soldiers in the conflict in Ukraine means it is a war and the world should begin using the term.
http://news.err.ee/v/politics/f49f3b0f-ec5e-4be6-ba97-f363b04c3155
Western nations find it unbelievable that war is possible in the 21st century and that because of that disbelief, they have reacted slowly

Estonian ERR in Moscow: Gas the Main Topic Between Russia and Ukraine
The question of gas supplies to Ukraine has priority as the cold weather is on the horizon, Russian political experts said at a press conference in Moscow.
http://news.err.ee/v/politics/ba991c1a-98f0-4640-b9d1-8beadaabfd19
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Message 1565079 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 21:24:13 UTC
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And some Swedish News.
NATO may in the future be allowed to deploy its force in Sweden.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fsverige%2Fregeringen-oppnar-for-natostyrka%2F&edit-text=

Government keen on Nato forces in Sweden
http://www.thelocal.se/20140827/swedish-government-to-allow-nato-to-deploy-troops

A civil war that government forces were winning in seems to have turned into an international conflict where Ukrainian pushed back. Pro-Russian militias are talking about a rapid advance.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fukraina-pressat-av-rysk-pansar%2F&edit-text=
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Message 1565142 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 22:59:44 UTC - in response to Message 1565079.  
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A civil war that government forces were winning in seems to have turned into an international conflict where Ukrainian pushed back. Pro-Russian militias are talking about a rapid advance.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fukraina-pressat-av-rysk-pansar%2F&edit-text=

janneseti, this is temporary setbacks! Military stratagem... Let them go, will be are disclosed as nuts!
It seems to me that the German burghers have got agitated... :)
see more at http://www.derwesten.de/politik/experten-warnen-vor-atomkatastrophe-in-der-ukraine-id9759365.html
About nuclear reactors in Ukraine, I have mentioned 191 days ago... see topic Crimea, message 1479808 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 21:30:58 UTC:
"Our country, Ukraine - the largest in Europe, the population of 46 million people ... and 17 nuclear reactors!...", see http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74143&postid=1479808#1479808 But all were silent and told nothing!
Janne, after Chernobyl, in Sweden have dropped radioactive isotopes? Here and I know about it also... It was not necessary, to grab Crimea and Ukraine, as well as just watch from the sidelines, what came of it! For all would crash and the border - not be able to save anyone! Because it is our common home, the planet Earth! Do you understand me? OK
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Message 1565151 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:16:04 UTC

http://news.msn.com/world/ukraine-says-russian-tanks-flatten-town-eu-to-threaten-more-sanctions

I wonder why Russian border checks can't see a houndred tanks pass by...
Too much Vodka parhapse....

The need a healthy and sound alcohol politics to prevent border checks letting tanks pass by them...
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Message 1565154 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:18:31 UTC

Btw, I have difficulty in reaching some internet news today...
Anyone else experience trouble recieving news the last 24hours?
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Message 1565160 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 1565154.  

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Message 1565169 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:48:50 UTC - in response to Message 1565142.  
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A civil war that government forces were winning in seems to have turned into an international conflict where Ukrainian pushed back. Pro-Russian militias are talking about a rapid advance.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fukraina-pressat-av-rysk-pansar%2F&edit-text=

janneseti, this is temporary setbacks! Military stratagem... Let them go, will be are disclosed as nuts!
It seems to me that the German burghers have got agitated... :)
see more at http://www.derwesten.de/politik/experten-warnen-vor-atomkatastrophe-in-der-ukraine-id9759365.html
About nuclear reactors in Ukraine, I have mentioned 191 days ago... see topic Crimea, message 1479808 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 21:30:58 UTC:
"Our country, Ukraine - the largest in Europe, the population of 46 million people ... and 17 nuclear reactors!...", see http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74143&postid=1479808#1479808 But all were silent and told nothing!
Janne, after Chernobyl, in Sweden have dropped radioactive isotopes? Here and I know about it also... It was not necessary, to grab Crimea and Ukraine, as well as just watch from the sidelines, what came of it! For all would crash and the border - not be able to save anyone! Because it is our common home, the planet Earth! Do you understand me? OK


Janne, after Chernobyl, in Sweden have dropped radioactive isotopes?
Yes, a lot. Sweden was the first country who told the World about that.
Hazardous radioactive isotopes occupied by including mushrooms in the forests. Ingestion of this mushroom was therefore inappropriate before the radioactivity subsided. Via contaminated reindeer moss spread radioactive materials into reindeer and reindeer were subjected to special screening of radiation values ​​before it got released for sale to the public. In addition to the inconvenience that this meant there was an economic setback for the animal industry.

I have not thought about the problem of nuclear power plants. It is the first military target to hit.
Because of the escalating fighting in the Ukraine the risk of nuclear facilities in the country is growing.
Only about 200 kilometers away from the combat zone are the six reactor units of Zaporizhia nuclear facility the largest nuclear plant in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhia_Oblast

Now I get very nervous...
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Message 1565172 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 23:52:17 UTC - in response to Message 1565154.  
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Btw, I have difficulty in reaching some internet news today...
Anyone else experience trouble recieving news the last 24hours?

Yes I have. In the afternoon but now it seems normal.
Probably Putins cyberwar has started.
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Message 1565176 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 0:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 1565151.  
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http://news.msn.com/world/ukraine-says-russian-tanks-flatten-town-eu-to-threaten-more-sanctions
I wonder why Russian border checks can't see a houndred tanks pass by...
Too much Vodka parhapse....
The need a healthy and sound alcohol politics to prevent border checks letting tanks pass by them...

Too much vodka and too much russian propaganda.
Too much oppressive Russian leaders and too few dissedents.
This have been going on in Russia for more than thousands years.

Björnen sover i sitt lugna bo:)
Inte längre!
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Message 1565178 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 0:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 1565169.  
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A civil war that government forces were winning in seems to have turned into an international conflict where Ukrainian pushed back. Pro-Russian militias are talking about a rapid advance.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fukraina-pressat-av-rysk-pansar%2F&edit-text=

janneseti, this is temporary setbacks! Military stratagem... Let them go, will be are disclosed as nuts!
It seems to me that the German burghers have got agitated... :)
see more at http://www.derwesten.de/politik/experten-warnen-vor-atomkatastrophe-in-der-ukraine-id9759365.html
About nuclear reactors in Ukraine, I have mentioned 191 days ago... see topic Crimea, message 1479808 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014, 21:30:58 UTC:
"Our country, Ukraine - the largest in Europe, the population of 46 million people ... and 17 nuclear reactors!...", see http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=74143&postid=1479808#1479808 But all were silent and told nothing!
Janne, after Chernobyl, in Sweden have dropped radioactive isotopes? Here and I know about it also... It was not necessary, to grab Crimea and Ukraine, as well as just watch from the sidelines, what came of it! For all would crash and the border - not be able to save anyone! Because it is our common home, the planet Earth! Do you understand me? OK


Janne, after Chernobyl, in Sweden have dropped radioactive isotopes?
Yes, a lot. Sweden was the first country who told the World about that f**ked up accident.
Hazardous radioactive isotopes occupied by including mushrooms in the forests. Ingestion of this mushroom was therefore inappropriate before the radioactivity subsided. Via contaminated reindeer moss spread radioactive materials into reindeer and reindeer were subjected to special screening of radiation values ​​before it got released for sale to the public. In addition to the inconvenience that this meant there was an economic setback for the animal industry.

I have not thought about the problem of nuclear power plants. It is the first military target to hit.
Because of the escalating fighting in the Ukraine the risk of nuclear facilities in the country is growing.
Only about 200 kilometers away from the combat zone are the six reactor units of Zaporizhia nuclear facility the largest nuclear plant in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhia_Oblast

Now I get very nervous...

btw. Did you know that Soviet (Russia) intentionally refrained to inform the Russian people about the Tjernobyl incident.
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Message 1565180 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 0:22:16 UTC - in response to Message 1565178.  

I have not thought about the problem of nuclear power plants. It is the first military target to hit.
Because of the escalating fighting in the Ukraine the risk of nuclear facilities in the country is growing.
Only about 200 kilometers away from the combat zone are the six reactor units of Zaporizhia nuclear facility the largest nuclear plant in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhia_Oblast

Now I get very nervous...

Only a madman would .....
Wait a second. Putin is a Madman!

GULP!
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Message 1565183 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 0:29:31 UTC - in response to Message 1565180.  
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I have not thought about the problem of nuclear power plants. It is the first military target to hit.
Because of the escalating fighting in the Ukraine the risk of nuclear facilities in the country is growing.
Only about 200 kilometers away from the combat zone are the six reactor units of Zaporizhia nuclear facility the largest nuclear plant in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhia_Oblast

Now I get very nervous...

Only a madman would .....
Wait a second. Putin is a Madman!

GULP!

I thought North Koreas leader is a mad man.
Maybe he is but Putin...
He must have lost his mind totally.
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Message 1565196 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 1:25:29 UTC

I just read where the EU is going to impose stiffer penalties on Russia. OOOH that must scare the hell out of Putin. I wonder how many people will freeze this winter? The EU talks a good game, But talk dont win games.
I sure hope the US stays out of this and lets the EU handle it. MY money is on Russia taking over the whole Ukraine.
While the EU talking heads still say, lets let sanctions have an effect. Like Russia really cares about sanctions, When They hold the gas supply. And the Russian poeple are some of the toughest, hardiest, most stubbornest folks who walk the planet. Take a gander at there history for the past 1000 years. You really belive sanctions will work? I dont.
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Message 1565203 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 1:42:29 UTC - in response to Message 1565196.  
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I just read where the EU is going to impose stiffer penalties on Russia. OOOH that must scare the hell out of Putin. I wonder how many people will freeze this winter? The EU talks a good game, But talk dont win games.
I sure hope the US stays out of this and lets the EU handle it. MY money is on Russia taking over the whole Ukraine.
While the EU talking heads still say, lets let sanctions have an effect. Like Russia really cares about sanctions, When They hold the gas supply. And the Russian poeple are some of the toughest, hardiest, most stubbornest folks who walk the planet. Take a gander at there history for the past 1000 years. You really belive sanctions will work? I dont.

No I don't either.
Yes it will hurt Russia but in the same time western nearby countries will also suffer because of this.
And many countries are dependent of a good Russian economy.
Which means that the global economy will suffer. Including US!
Watch out US. The Russian Bear has woken.

MY money is on Russia taking over the whole Ukraine.

Nonsense.
Putin is only interested of Crimea for the oil and Donbass for easy contact to Crimea. He also want seal of Ukraina from the Black Sea which means that Ukraina seize to exist.
Quite neat plan dont you think.
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I just read where the EU is going to impose stiffer penalties on Russia. OOOH that must scare the hell out of Putin. I wonder how many people will freeze this winter? The EU talks a good game, But talk dont win games.
I sure hope the US stays out of this and lets the EU handle it. MY money is on Russia taking over the whole Ukraine.
While the EU talking heads still say, lets let sanctions have an effect. Like Russia really cares about sanctions, When They hold the gas supply. And the Russian poeple are some of the toughest, hardiest, most stubbornest folks who walk the planet. Take a gander at there history for the past 1000 years. You really belive sanctions will work? I dont.

No I don't either.
Yes it will hurt Russia but in the same time western nearby countries will also suffer because of this.
And many countries are dependent of a good Russian economy.
Which means that the global economy will suffer. Including US!
Watch out US. The Russian Bear has woken.

I doubt that. We owe China our economy. And I dont like that.
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Message 1565211 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 2:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 1565207.  

I just read where the EU is going to impose stiffer penalties on Russia. OOOH that must scare the hell out of Putin. I wonder how many people will freeze this winter? The EU talks a good game, But talk dont win games.
I sure hope the US stays out of this and lets the EU handle it. MY money is on Russia taking over the whole Ukraine.
While the EU talking heads still say, lets let sanctions have an effect. Like Russia really cares about sanctions, When They hold the gas supply. And the Russian poeple are some of the toughest, hardiest, most stubbornest folks who walk the planet. Take a gander at there history for the past 1000 years. You really belive sanctions will work? I dont.

No I don't either.
Yes it will hurt Russia but in the same time western nearby countries will also suffer because of this.
And many countries are dependent of a good Russian economy.
Which means that the global economy will suffer. Including US!
Watch out US. The Russian Bear has woken.

I doubt that. We owe China our economy. And I dont like that.

I'm not sure what you are doubting about.
Anyway. China has agreed to a multi billion agreement of Russian oil and gas export to China some months ago.
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Message 1565215 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 2:18:06 UTC
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In Mariupol more than a thousand people formed a "human chain" near the checkpoint in Novoazovsk.
The action was also attended by women and children. Chain stretched more than a kilometer. Border guards along with volunteers around the clock patrolling the city and surrounding area. Created to reflect the riot tank attacks.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpodrobnosti.ua%2Fsociety%2F2014%2F08%2F31%2F991236.html&edit-text=
The EU will introduce a third level of sanctions against Russia. This was stated by Poroshenko. EU countries are ready to provide military assistance to Ukraine. In particular, to provide modern weapons. Ukraine will receive, and financial assistance. EU to allocate one billion euros. At the EU summit, Prime Minister Donald Tusk was elected the new head of the European Council.
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