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Message 1561246 - Posted: 23 Aug 2014, 21:05:54 UTC

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/08/reassertion-whiteness-canada-d-2014820111851873436.html
The reassertion of whiteness in Canada: Deepan Budlakoti and Bill C-24
Is Bill C-24 strengthening Canadian citizenship?
While Deepan was serving three years in prison for drug and firearms charges, a racial-profiling prison guard brought him to the attention of the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). The CBSA then determined he should be deported to India, a country he has never been to. The Harper government is hoping to make banishment a more regular activity now that their Bill C-24"Strengthening Canadian Citizenship Act" has become law. The bill raises the bar for acquiring citizenship and allows it to be revoked by a parliamentary minister, with no possible appeal in court.
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The facts of Deepan's life make it impossible to ignore the complicity of the Canadian state and society in forming his path. That is because he was, technically, their child. Deepan was born in Ottawa to new immigrants who had arrived as domestic staff for the Indian ambassador before taking work for a Canadian physician. The government claims he cannot be Canadian because his parents were not technically employed in Canada - something Deepan denies (He was issued a provincial birth certificate and later a Canadian passport).

et tu Canada?
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Message 1561259 - Posted: 23 Aug 2014, 21:35:32 UTC

Scary.

However, Bill C24 is likely to be challenged in court as against the Charter. So we'll see what happens.
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Message 1561305 - Posted: 23 Aug 2014, 23:32:06 UTC

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Scary.


The WordSmith knows how To Hit 'em Hard with One Word.

Ifn 'it' was/is Her Coloured Man, she Would Be Verbosedly Outraged, to Da Max.

And We'd Here 'bout 'it' ad Nauseam.

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Yep, 'it's' All Local. mO LOcal Than We Know.

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Message 1561313 - Posted: 23 Aug 2014, 23:54:23 UTC - in response to Message 1561305.  

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Ifn 'it' was/is Her Coloured Man, she Would Be Verbosedly Outraged, to Da Max.
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You know. You are really going to have to explain what you mean there.
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Message 1561344 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 1:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 1561313.  

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Ifn 'it' was/is Her Coloured Man, she Would Be Verbosedly Outraged, to Da Max.
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You know. You are really going to have to explain what you mean there.

I don't expect a cogent responce, do you?
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Message 1561357 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 2:30:55 UTC

While hardly from an unbiased source, the story does point out that our current Federal government is very, shall we say, retro. We will have a chance to tell them what we think of this in the next election, unlike most of the countries where al Jazeera broadcasts.

PS - I didn't vote for Harper or any of his minions.

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Message 1561375 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 3:21:27 UTC

Nor did I Bill.
This CONservative/reform party is a throwback to the McCarthy era of subversives hiding everywhere.
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I fight them because they are fascists.
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Message 1561389 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 4:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 1561357.  

While hardly from an unbiased source

I suspect that compared to Faux they are without bias. But that is going off into the bushes.

the story does point out that our current Federal government is very, shall we say, retro.

Just wondering if there is Tea being brewed up there?
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Message 1561401 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 5:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 1561396.  
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While hardly from an unbiased source

I suspect that compared to Faux they are without bias. But that is going off into the bushes.

the story does point out that our current Federal government is very, shall we say, retro.

Just wondering if there is Tea being brewed up there?

In The USA: If you are born inside The USA, or are born anywhere in The World, to an American Citizen: You ARE an American Citizen.

How do Canadian Laws differ?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDetails.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Bill=C24&Parl=41&Ses=2
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=6684615
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-29/
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules_2009.asp
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Message 1561403 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 5:12:36 UTC
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The same thing is being considered here by a Liberal party funny how it's the Liberals (Republicans) that do this crap all the time .

It was first try'd here under ...wait for it yes a bloody Liberal party PM called HOWARD in 1999 when a man was deported back to Yugoslavia but could not speak the language as he had never left Australia since he was brought there by his parents when he was a child but since brought back to Australia

I say what good is a citizenship if a Gov can take it away from you on a whim . And what happens to someone actually born there will they be deported on a whim ?
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Message 1561434 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 7:27:06 UTC

The rules that countries apply to citizenship in my experience usually fail at some point and can cause some individuals and families problems.

My youngest, because of the law at the time of his birth, has a letter from the Foreign Office stating he is to be regarded as a British Citizen. It does not state he is a British Citizen.
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Message 1561437 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 7:38:22 UTC - in response to Message 1561434.  

WlnterKnight as someone that has had to deal with this very question your son will have to clam his citizen ship when he is 18 until then yes your right he is not actually a citizen only regarded as 1 which is not the same thing and you can bank on it
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Message 1561444 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 8:05:55 UTC - in response to Message 1561437.  

WlnterKnight as someone that has had to deal with this very question your son will have to clam his citizen ship when he is 18 until then yes your right he is not actually a citizen only regarded as 1 which is not the same thing and you can bank on it

It's OK he's now 30 and claimed it, but has to make sure he keeps his passport up to date as it is his only document proving citizenship.
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Message 1561452 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 8:38:06 UTC - in response to Message 1561396.  

In The USA: If you are born inside The USA, or are born anywhere in The World, to an American Citizen: You ARE an American Citizen.

How do Canadian Laws differ?

Generally there are two legal doctrines that cover this: jus sanguis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of soil). With jus sanguis if your parants have citizenship then so do you. With jus soli, if you are born on the territory of that country, you automatically gain citizenship of that country. It seems the US applies both doctrines. Canada technically also applies both doctrines.
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Message 1561603 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 1561527.  

In The USA: If you are born inside The USA, or are born anywhere in The World, to an American Citizen: You ARE an American Citizen.

How do Canadian Laws differ?

Generally there are two legal doctrines that cover this: jus sanguis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of soil). With jus sanguis if your parants have citizenship then so do you. With jus soli, if you are born on the territory of that country, you automatically gain citizenship of that country. It seems the US applies both doctrines. Canada technically also applies both doctrines.

A little off the subject.

That is why THE MORAN'S stating IF Obama was born in Kenya: He was not Constitutionally entitled to be an American President. His mother was an American Citizen. Thereby making him a "Natural Born American".

Additionally. These MORAN'S further that when he was Indonesia, his step-father enrolled a young Obama, at school, as an Indonesian Citizen.

The only person who can take away Obama's American Citizenship, IS Obama himself, after reaching the age of 18. There is an exception for as young as 16.

I dislike the guy. But... Facts are facts.

Moran? I am not familiar with that word.
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Message 1561604 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 1561375.  

Nor did I Bill.
This CONservative/reform party is a throwback to the McCarthy era of subversives hiding everywhere.

I won't be voting for him either when my second class citizenship that can be stripped from me on the whim of a government official comes through, thanks to this new bill.

I am quite sure it will be challenged in the court.
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Message 1561606 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:10:11 UTC

Whiteness???
OMFG...
And I get castigated at times for referring to little furry things as 'coons'.
WTF change of epochs did I miss??????
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Message 1561611 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:13:39 UTC - in response to Message 1561603.  

In The USA: If you are born inside The USA, or are born anywhere in The World, to an American Citizen: You ARE an American Citizen.

How do Canadian Laws differ?

Generally there are two legal doctrines that cover this: jus sanguis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of soil). With jus sanguis if your parants have citizenship then so do you. With jus soli, if you are born on the territory of that country, you automatically gain citizenship of that country. It seems the US applies both doctrines. Canada technically also applies both doctrines.

A little off the subject.

That is why THE MORAN'S stating IF Obama was born in Kenya: He was not Constitutionally entitled to be an American President. His mother was an American Citizen. Thereby making him a "Natural Born American".

Additionally. These MORAN'S further that when he was Indonesia, his step-father enrolled a young Obama, at school, as an Indonesian Citizen.

The only person who can take away Obama's American Citizenship, IS Obama himself, after reaching the age of 18. There is an exception for as young as 16.

I dislike the guy. But... Facts are facts.

Moran? I am not familiar with that word.

moran |ˈmɒr(ə)n|
noun ( pl. same )
a member of the warrior group of the Masai people of East Africa, which comprises the younger unmarried males.
ORIGIN Masai.
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Message 1561614 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 1561611.  

In The USA: If you are born inside The USA, or are born anywhere in The World, to an American Citizen: You ARE an American Citizen.

How do Canadian Laws differ?

Generally there are two legal doctrines that cover this: jus sanguis (right of blood) and jus soli (right of soil). With jus sanguis if your parants have citizenship then so do you. With jus soli, if you are born on the territory of that country, you automatically gain citizenship of that country. It seems the US applies both doctrines. Canada technically also applies both doctrines.

A little off the subject.

That is why THE MORAN'S stating IF Obama was born in Kenya: He was not Constitutionally entitled to be an American President. His mother was an American Citizen. Thereby making him a "Natural Born American".

Additionally. These MORAN'S further that when he was Indonesia, his step-father enrolled a young Obama, at school, as an Indonesian Citizen.

The only person who can take away Obama's American Citizenship, IS Obama himself, after reaching the age of 18. There is an exception for as young as 16.

I dislike the guy. But... Facts are facts.

Moran? I am not familiar with that word.

moran |ˈmɒr(ə)n|
noun ( pl. same )
a member of the warrior group of the Masai people of East Africa, which comprises the younger unmarried males.
ORIGIN Masai.

ok. I just wanted to understand.
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Message 1561621 - Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 17:55:17 UTC

This is most amazing, because if I started a thread about the whiteness of men in the USA, it would be banned immediately.

Because I have been 'labeled' as racist for discussing things as I see them.

An example.

The sherriff is.....well, I can only say he's near.
Which obliviates the intended joke.
I happen to like Mel Brooks.
I like him a lot, because he says what a few cowardly souls cannot bring themselves to say.

The main point, kids, is when Mel makes a joke, he is not looking at Schindler's list. He survived that. As a Jew.
And can still make fun of his own pain.

Some of you should do likewise.
And redirect your angst from me to yourselves.
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