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Message 1563864 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 17:28:21 UTC - in response to Message 1563842.  

So you want them to continue with their medieval/religious/tribal crap, threatening the free world? They're not going to any reeducation camps, what part of your brain came up with that idea? They're going to be integrated into free societies of course. Sure they have to be forced, but it's either that, or they will ultimately kill all of us with their revenge ideas....

Has anyone stopped to think that if the rest of the world kept its nose out of their business and stopped stirring the pot "they" wouldn't be anywhere near as big a threat. They'd sort themselves out eventually if left alone.

Also, the Australian experience is that these people don't integrate. Like some Asian people they stick together in their own little ghettos and only associate with the general populace when absolutely necessary. Then you also get the radicals among them expressing support for the very people they came here as "refugees" to get away from...

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Message 1563877 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 17:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1563864.  

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Message 1563938 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 19:00:18 UTC - in response to Message 1563819.  

The only way to stop this ridiculous violence in the middle east is to make a huge GLASS parking lot of the whole area and be done with it.

Really. Genocide. Does that make a fair comparison to a hated 20th century historical regime?


Where did you get genocide from?

You never said anything about removing them before you turned it into a glass parking lot.
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Message 1563948 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 19:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1563947.  

...& that's the World Series gone to Sweden :-)
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Message 1563955 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 19:18:16 UTC - in response to Message 1563954.  

Please have some respect for them, and treat them as Adults.


How can you respect or treat as adults scumbags who take pleasure in executing prisoners?
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Message 1563969 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 19:25:23 UTC - in response to Message 1563961.  

Please have some respect for them, and treat them as Adults.


How can you respect or treat as adults scumbags who take pleasure in executing prisoners?

By making them responsible for there actions. Not by say Other's are the cause, and posting +1 to that.

& therein lies the rub. Just how do we make them responsible in their own countries where they continue to maim & kill each other all because they see their version of the Koran is correct.
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Message 1563974 - Posted: 28 Aug 2014, 19:29:17 UTC - in response to Message 1563947.  

Sten-Arne

People don't really integrate in Immigrant Country's, except after many generations.

What make you believe they think YOUR way is better?

OK. Let's send 50,000 over to Sweden, as an experiment, and see if you idea works.

If it does. Great. If it doesn't. I guess we will have the Islamic State of Sweden.

Sten-Arne: Give it a try. Don't experiment with other Country's.


We've already taken more than that this year, but how would you know, since you do not interest yourself of other countries obviously. How about some fact checking before you post eh? :-)

The Swedish Migration Board raises the asylum prognosis to 80,000

Game, Set, Match.....

Oh I love it .... an edit war ....
Your quote of Clyde post reads 50,000 Clyde has edited to 500,000!
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Message 1564142 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 0:34:39 UTC

Nope, Clyde is not representative of US USAians. :)
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Message 1564147 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 0:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1563978.  

Unbelievable, I hope he isn't representative for most Americans

IMO he does't represnt most people.
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Message 1564173 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 3:05:33 UTC - in response to Message 1564158.  

I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

You missed the deranged center and all those who are at right angles to your failed left-right world view.
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Message 1564188 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 3:53:21 UTC - in response to Message 1564173.  

I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

You missed the deranged center and all those who are at right angles to your failed left-right world view.


He's firing missiles at left angles to the reality of SEP fields with more spiritual fortitude than his Gorn heritage can muster and fight?

Or shall we dub his new new screen name Anon 7, unforgiving/unforgiven?
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Message 1564190 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 3:58:31 UTC - in response to Message 1564158.  
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Nope, Clyde is not representative of US USAians. :)

I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

The Left Wing Ideology cannot stand anyone pointing out their stupidly. I ALWAYS take their silly attacks as a compliment. Keep it up.

Just wondering if there will be a response to this Post. If there is, it will, of course, be filled with Super Intelligent Thoughtfulness.

On second thought. I almost forgot. Left Wing? Nah. Will not be Intelligent.

:):):)

Clyde, do you ever re-read your posts after the fact?

Mate you just come across as an extremist of either the left or the right depending on the topic. I have yet to see you ever take a "middle liner" approach on any subject.

If you're you are 1 of us "middle liners" then it must be that you just can't retire from the "hard line questioning" routine that you were use to by being policeman and just want to keep your skills in with the rest of us?.

Or is there a "deranged middle line" that I've never heard of? (nah, that can't be right)

Or is where you come from in such constant conflict that it just doesn't wash off?

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Message 1564195 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 4:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1564158.  

Nope, Clyde is not representative of US USAians. :)

I just despise The Deranged Left, as much as The Deranged Right.

The Left Wing Ideology cannot stand anyone pointing out their stupidly. I ALWAYS take their silly attacks as a compliment. Keep it up.

Just wondering if there will be a response to this Post. If there is, it will, of course, be filled with Super Intelligent Thoughtfulness.

On second thought. I almost forgot. Left Wing? Nah. Will not be Intelligent.

:):):)


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Message 1564292 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 10:09:52 UTC - in response to Message 1563819.  
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Where did you get genocide from? What exactly was your thinking pattern when you came up with the word genocide?

People can be moved, and integrated in other countries all over the world. Making sure that they never again start their religious and tribal idiocy.

Making the area into a glass parking lot, makes sure that they can never again populate that area, which seems to be cursed for all eternity.

Oh right, forced displacement of millions of people, because that will calm people down. And yeah really, the only reason they are attacking each other is because that particular geographical area has a particular effect on the mind that makes them want to kill other people.
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Message 1564296 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 10:15:14 UTC - in response to Message 1564292.  

And yeah really, the only reason they are attacking each other is because that particular geographical area has a particular effect on the mind that makes them want to kill other people.

Are you really that silly?
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Message 1564518 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 18:24:31 UTC - in response to Message 1564371.  

Those living in a Intellectual Cloistered World (like monks - in a monetary - just talking among themselves - and dismissing other's thoughts/ideas): Always personally attack those who commit, let's say Blasphemy, against their religion/ideology. Religion and Ideology are both, in the end, the same.

Pot -- Kettle.

You do realize that is what "The Israel and Palestine conflict" is. Muslim vs Jew with each side seeing the other, not as individuals, but as a monolithic block of the most extreme position.

Calling to exterminate one side or the other, because they might do something, simply shows that you are part of the problem and can't be part of the solution.

There are two solutions.

1) Kill both sides.
2) The sides become BFF's

Option 1 is genocide. That leaves option 2.

You argue option 3, kill one side. That doesn't work because the winner will now see some other group as an enemy and start again with more confidence because the rest of the world let them get away with genocide.
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Message 1564549 - Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 19:09:18 UTC

Palestinian leader says Hamas caused prolonged war

Associated Press= RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas blamed Hamas on Friday for extending fighting with Israel in the Gaza Strip, casting doubt on the future of the Palestinian unity government that the Islamic militant group backs, while Israel's premier said the end of the war could mark resumption of peace talks with Abbas.

Several Egyptian mediated cease-fire attempts during the conflict failed. Hamas eventually accepted almost the same truce offered at the beginning.

Egyptian mediators tried early on to get the sides to agree to a ceasefire. Several temporary truces were broken by Gaza militants.

"The Egyptian formula was on the table on July 15th, it was backed by the Arab League, it was accepted by Israel but rejected by Hamas then and now more than a month later has belatedly been accepted by Hamas," Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev said.
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Message 1564830 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 4:47:30 UTC - in response to Message 1564819.  

The ONLY side calling for Genocide, is not Israel.

I'm sorry your head is buried in the sand. Perhaps you will look up just for a second...

Moshe Feiglin is head of the Manhigut Yehudit [Jewish Leadership] faction in the Likud party and a member of Knesset.
Moshe Feiglin in http://www.israelnationalnews.com/ wrote:
Attack – Attack the entire ‘target bank’ throughout Gaza with the IDF’s maximum force (and not a tiny fraction of it) with all the conventional means at its disposal. All the military and infrastructural targets will be attacked with no consideration for ‘human shields’ or ‘environmental damage’.
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Parallel to the above, a total siege on Gaza. Nothing will enter the area.
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After the IDF completes the "softening" of the targets with its fire-power, the IDF will conquer the entire Gaza, using all the means necessary to minimize any harm to our soldiers, with no other considerations.
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Gaza is part of our Land and we will remain there forever. Liberation of parts of our land forever is the only thing that justifies endangering our soldiers in battle to capture land. Subsequent to the elimination of terror from Gaza, it will become part of sovereign Israel and will be populated by Jews.

If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck ........
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Message 1564866 - Posted: 30 Aug 2014, 7:26:34 UTC

France24 - Hamas rocket launcher site. includes video

FRANCE 24 correspondent Gallagher Fenwick says the site in Gaza City is some 50 metres (less than 165 feet) from a hotel where the majority of international media is staying. It also lies just 100 metres from a UN building clearly marked with the trademark light blue flag.

"This type of setup is at the heart of the debate within the international community but also between Israel and the Palestinian militants," says Fenwick. "The Israeli army has repeatedly accused Palestinian militants of shooting from within densely populated civilian areas, and that is precisely the type of setup we have right here – rockets set up right next to buildings with a lot of residents.”
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