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Message 1559073 - Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 9:04:13 UTC

My phone is set to the Home location and my computer is set as Work in my SETI preferences. However both devices are following the default prefs and not the separate home and work preferences... why??
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Message 1559078 - Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 9:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 1559073.  

Possibly your Android Boinc version. Try to update to the latest available 7.4.14 first. Google Play Store.
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Message 1559083 - Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 9:20:51 UTC - in response to Message 1559078.  

But my Windows 8.1 computer is also disobeying its set location preferences. And the latest Android version is 7.3.12 from the Play Store.
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Message 1559089 - Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 9:48:54 UTC - in response to Message 1559083.  
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Which exact Preferences "computer is also disobeying"?:
Computing preferences
SETI@home preferences

Do you have global_prefs_override.xml file?
In this case you use Local preferences

Check also the Activity Menu (to be set '... based on preferences')
BOINC Manager Menu
 
 


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Message 1559113 - Posted: 19 Aug 2014, 11:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 1559083.  

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Message 1559335 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 8:17:13 UTC - in response to Message 1559089.  

It's the SETI@home prefs, saying whether it can use the GPU/CPU or not, etc. My phone can only work on the CPU, but i only want my computer working on the Intel GPU. I've set locations on these devices and altered the location prefs accordingly but they're both following the default preferences.
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Message 1559338 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 8:33:50 UTC - in response to Message 1559335.  

... but they're both following the default preferences.

How do you know?

If you think that 'Use CPU no' will stop immediately CPU processing - it is not like that.
'Use CPU no' only stops getting new tasks for CPU (those you already have will be computed as usual)
 


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Message 1559340 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 8:38:50 UTC - in response to Message 1559338.  

My phone isn't fetching tasks for the CPU when its got nothing to do, and the event log is saying this is because preferences won't allow it. The location preferences for my phone are set to CPU yes, but the default is no.
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Message 1559341 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 8:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 1559340.  

...also my computer won't fetch tasks for the CPU, but if I set the default to CPU yes and then update from the BOINC Manager it is getting CPU tasks, even though my computer's location preferences say no CPU.
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Message 1559342 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 8:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1559341.  

When you look at this link:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php

... what is shown in 'Location' column?
 


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Message 1559350 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 9:15:05 UTC

OK, I checked my files:

It seems 'Use Intel GPU' is in the 'SETI@home preferences' web page
but the value is not passed to BOINC

On SETI@home Beta it is passed (according to my files, using BOINC 6.10.58)

In account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>


In account_setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu_beta.xml

<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>


In account_einstein.phys.uwm.edu.xml

<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
 


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Message 1559353 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 9:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1559350.  
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Actually in 7.2.42 I can see <no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu> in the preferences xml file. Will changing <no_cpu> to 1 keep it that way or will a server update eventually override it?

As for location, my phone says home and my computer says work...just like it should.
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Message 1559357 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 9:59:01 UTC - in response to Message 1559353.  

Will changing <no_cpu> to 1 keep it that way or will a server update eventually override it?

Every update (e.g. to ask for tasks) will overwrite it


If you have set Location you have to have <venue name="XXXXXXX"> ..... </venue> section and inside it the 'special' settings for this Location/venue:
<project_preferences>
<resource_share>100</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>
    <app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
<app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
<venue name="school">
<resource_share>500</resource_share>
<no_cpu>0</no_cpu>
<no_ati>0</no_ati>
<no_cuda>0</no_cuda>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>Custom</format_preset>
        <text_style>Pillars</text_style>
        <graph_style>Surface</graph_style>
        <max_cpu>10</max_cpu>
        <grow_time>10</grow_time>
        <hold_time>5</hold_time>
        <graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
        <roll_period>0</roll_period>
        <roll_range>0</roll_range>
        <pitch_period>0</pitch_period>
        <pitch_range>0</pitch_range>
        <starfield_size>0</starfield_size>
        <starfield_speed>0</starfield_speed>
        <color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
        <start_hue>0</start_hue>
        <hue_change>1</hue_change>
    <app_id>12</app_id>
<allow_non_preferred_apps>1</allow_non_preferred_apps>
</project_specific>
</venue>
</project_preferences>

 


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Message 1559939 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 8:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 1559357.  

I can see this:

<venue name="work">
<resource_share>8</resource_share>
<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>1</no_ati>
<no_cuda>1</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<project_specific>
<format_preset>SETI@home classic</format_preset>
<text_style>Pillars</text_style>
<graph_style>Rectangles</graph_style>
<max_cpu>50</max_cpu>
<grow_time>10</grow_time>
<hold_time>5</hold_time>
<graph_alpha>0.7</graph_alpha>
<roll_period>10</roll_period>
<roll_range>20</roll_range>
<pitch_period>30</pitch_period>
<pitch_range>30</pitch_range>
<starfield_size>2000</starfield_size>
<starfield_speed>40</starfield_speed>
<color_preset>Rainbow</color_preset>
<start_hue>0</start_hue>
<hue_change>1</hue_change>
<app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
</project_specific>
</venue>
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Message 1559949 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 10:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 1559073.  

My phone is set to the Home location and my computer is set as Work in my SETI preferences. However both devices are following the default prefs and not the separate home and work preferences... why??


It doesn't matter what venue you have your phone set to. At the top of the preference page reads:

These apply to all BOINC projects in which you participate.
On computers participating in multiple projects, the most recently modified preferences will be used.
These preferences do not apply to Android devices.


Unless that message is old or no longer applies, I don't think you can set preferences for your phone individually.
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Message 1560470 - Posted: 22 Aug 2014, 7:56:56 UTC - in response to Message 1559949.  

Ah, so that was the problem! Alright then, thanks for that. I don't know why I can't see that message anywhere.
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Message 1560515 - Posted: 22 Aug 2014, 10:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 1560470.  

It should be at the top of this page.
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Message 1560569 - Posted: 22 Aug 2014, 13:37:44 UTC - in response to Message 1560515.  

Yep, NOW I see it. If I went into my account and then go computing preferences from there it never showed up. Anyway, thanks.
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Message 1560973 - Posted: 23 Aug 2014, 6:05:29 UTC - in response to Message 1559939.  
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I can see this:

<venue name="work">
<resource_share>8</resource_share>
<no_cpu>1</no_cpu>
<no_ati>1</no_ati>
<no_cuda>1</no_cuda>
<no_intel_gpu>0</no_intel_gpu>
<project_specific>
.......
<app_id>2</app_id>
<app_id>11</app_id>
</project_specific>
</venue>

So it looks OK, this translates to:

Use CPU no
Use ATI GPU no
Use NVIDIA GPU no
Use Intel GPU yes

SETI@home Enhanced: yes
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: no
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? no


So remind us - what does the computer that is put in Location/venue "work" do when the above Preferences are in effect?

I see it have SETI@home v7 v7.03 (opencl_intel_gpu_sah) tasks - so where is the problem you see?:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7285344


Note: with so low <resource_share>8</resource_share> there will be times (days) when the computer will not get any tasks from SETI@home
(I presume you have Resource share 100 on PrimeGrid)


P.S.
Don't confuse SETI@home preferences and Computing preferences

Only the Computing preferences have the line:
"These preferences do not apply to Android devices"
 


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