howdy.. i am EXTREMELY new to bionic.. never heard about it.. and it was not on the seti@ home website.....

at least not when i checked

my question is this...

how can i make this run ONLY when my screensaver is up... (figured out how)

and how can i make the image show static when in screensaver... IE when the scrensaver is on i don't want things moving around (the 3d effects that are there) (figured out how)


Also the old classic program would not run on my second computer...

can i load it there along with this computer (link the accounts?) and run it? but the other computer does not have a 256color video card (its a basica personal web server and i don't need 256 colors and can't find a driver for the deal)

can i have it run in the background as a low priority... without doing a screensaver?

also what OTHER projects can i get this to do ?

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Well it seams that you figured most of your questions out yourself.

> can i have it run in the background as a low priority... without doing a screensaver?

BOINC is always running at low priority, then running. If you don’t want a screensaver then set the preferences in windows to ether don’t use a screensaver or the screensaver to be black.

> also what OTHER projects can i get this to do ?

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

i don’t recommend Climateprediction.net on your 996MHz Pentium (wu’s run for months)

Einstein: beta testing. Accounts are sent out too interested a few at the time. Hopefully public in January.
http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/

LHC is not sending out work just now. Hopefully staring again in January.
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/

Predictor is just starting up after an upgrade. Hopefully will accept new accounts in January.
http://predictor.scripps.edu/

Remember report deadlines are different for different projects and BOINC always cache at least one wu for each project you attach to, so don’t attach to more projects then your computer can handle.

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> howdy.. i am EXTREMELY new to bionic.. never heard about it.. and it was not
> on the seti@ home website.....
>
> at least not when i checked
>
> my question is this...
>
> how can i make this run ONLY when my screensaver is up... (figured out how)
>
> and how can i make the image show static when in screensaver... IE when the
> scrensaver is on i don't want things moving around (the 3d effects that are
> there) (figured out how)
>
>
> Also the old classic program would not run on my second computer...
>
> can i load it there along with this computer (link the accounts?) and run it?
> but the other computer does not have a 256color video card (its a basica
> personal web server and i don't need 256 colors and can't find a driver for
> the deal)
>
> can i have it run in the background as a low priority... without doing a
> screensaver?
>
> also what OTHER projects can i get this to do ?
>

Hi, and welcome to SETI/BOINC!

1. - You can have "Classic" SETI and SETI/BOINC on the same PC, but, in general you can run them both at the same time but "Classic" will get all the CPU time and BOINC will not. Someone here has figured out how to get them both to run concurrently, sharing CPU time. You can do a search in the boards.

2. - I never ran "Classic" with the wallpaper and do not run BOINC with the wallpaper either. The graphics updates take CPU time away from the actual WU (work unit) processing.

3. - There are many other projects to run and they will all take turns getting crunched by the CPU. That's one of the nicest features I like about BOINC. I'll try to list some here for you:

climateprediction.net

LHC@Home - going through upgrades right now, no work to do.

Einstein@Home - Currently in alpha testing.

Pirates@Home - No "real" scientific work done here.

Hope the above info and links help out. Once again, welcome to the world of BOINC.

L8R....

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My Time: Sunday, 26 December 2004 - 06:30 AM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> also what OTHER projects can i get this to do ?

You can also spend a life time reading what I have written about it and then telling me what I messed up ... :)

Over 300 pages of fun and games.

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> > also what OTHER projects can i get this to do ?
>
> You can also spend a life time reading what I have written about it and then
> telling me what I messed up ... :)
>
> Over 300 pages of fun and games.
>

Hey Paul, how ya doin'?

This may be a little off topic here, but since you're the man with all the knowledge, I figured I'd discuss this here.

I discovered something with my optical wheel mouse yesterday. I was out here reading and posting and I accidently clicked the wheel (I use it a lot for scrolling). A circle with an up/down arrow (icon) displays on the screen. The mouse pointer also turns to an up/down arrow when on the "icon". Move the mouse point above the "icon" and the page scrolls automatically down. Move the mouse pointer below the "icon" and the page scrolls automatically up. Put the mouse pointer even or on the "icon" and the scrolling stops. The farther away up or down from the "icon" the faster the scroll. Is this an unknown "feature" of XP? I haven't seen any documentation about this "feature". I do not have the Logitech software loaded for the mouse. Or, maybe it could be a feature of my nVidia software. I haven't seen anything about it there either. What do you think?

L8R....

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My Time: Sunday, 26 December 2004 - 08:16 AM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

It's just an automatic feature of the default Windows Xp installation if you don't install any other software for your mouse, all my mice do the same thing as yours Siran if I click on the Wheel.

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The pushing on the scrool wheel goes back to atleast WIN98 and works on Win2K Pro as well.

Scott

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> It's just an automatic feature of the default Windows Xp installation if you
> don't install any other software for your mouse, all my mice do the same thing
> as yours Siran if I click on the Wheel.
>

Cool! Thanks, PoorBoy! I really like the feature, especially like scanning through a very long document looking for some specific text. Set it to scroll slow and just sit and scan. I really like it!

L8R....

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My Time: Sunday, 26 December 2004 - 09:38 AM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> The pushing on the scrool wheel goes back to atleast WIN98 and works on Win2K
> Pro as well.
>
> Scott
>

I used this mouse when I was using WinME and it didn't do that. :-( I like it in XP. :-)

L8R....

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My Time: Sunday, 26 December 2004 - 09:40 AM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> > The pushing on the scrool wheel goes back to atleast WIN98 and works on
> Win2K
> > Pro as well.
> >
> > Scott
> >
>
> I used this mouse when I was using WinME and it didn't do that. :-( I like it
> in XP. :-)
>
> L8R....
>
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>
> My Time: Sunday, 26 December 2004 - 09:40 AM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)
>
>

lol its in 2k as well

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First of all, I don't have all the knowledge. And the older I get the less I seem to know.

I do have some however, and am not ashamed of sharing it, even if you don't want to hear it! :)

And I have seen that too... I don't see it on my XP systems so I must have turned it off somehow, though I have seen it off and on....

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> First of all, I don't have all the knowledge. And the older I get the
> less I seem to know.
>
> I do have some however, and am not ashamed of sharing it, even if you
> don't want to hear it! :)
>
> And I have seen that too... I don't see it on my XP systems so I must have
> turned it off somehow, though I have seen it off and on....
>

I just checked my mouse properties and could find nothing about this feature. So, I don't know how you could have turned it off, unless you found something by accident, such as my discovering the feature by accident.

L8R....

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My Time: Monday, 27 December 2004 - 05:50 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)


EDIT:
I think we got a bit off topic here. :-)
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My Time: Monday, 27 December 2004 - 05:52 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

> I just checked my mouse properties and could find nothing about this feature.
> So, I don't know how you could have turned it off, unless you found something
> by accident, such as my discovering the feature by accident.

Hey, what can I say? I am talented ... I have crashed every OS I have ever worked with, DOS, System 7 (Lisa), Mac OS, VAX VMS, OS/2 (until V4 SP4, then I could not kill it), NT, Win 2000, ME, WIn 98, Win 95, Hmmm, have I missed any? Oh Yes, OS-X 10.3.2 (I think) until now 10.3.7 ...

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I just checked my mouse properties and could find nothing about this feature. So, I don't know how you could have turned it off, unless you found something by accident, such as my discovering the feature by accident.
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Maybe it's just a case of all Mice are not the same & some you may be able to do the Wheel Click thing and others you may not be able to do it with the Mouse ... ???

I have crashed every OS I have ever worked with, DOS, System 7 (Lisa)
Woah, there! System 7!=Lisa.

Mac OS, VAX VMS, OS/2 (until V4 SP4, then I could not kill it), NT, Win 2000, ME
WinMe is easy to crash - just install it! :-D

, WIn 98, Win 95, Hmmm, have I missed any?
Oh Yes, OS-X 10.3.2 (I think) until now 10.3.7 ...
OS X is much easier to crash than ever before! One kill -9 0 or rm -rf /var/vm should #$%^&* everything up on any system, but for real torture try running KDE on Darwin.

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> I have crashed every OS I have ever worked with, DOS, System 7 (Lisa)
> Woah, there! System 7!=Lisa.
>
> Mac OS, VAX VMS, OS/2 (until V4 SP4, then I could not kill it), NT, Win
> 2000, ME
> WinMe is easy to crash - just install it! :-D
>
> , WIn 98, Win 95, Hmmm, have I missed any?
Oh Yes, OS-X 10.3.2 (I think)
> until now 10.3.7 ...
> OS X is much easier to crash than ever before! One kill -9 0 or rm
> -rf /var/vm should #$%^&* everything up on any system, but for
> real torture try running KDE on
> Darwin.
>

I didn't have any crash problems with WinME until I had to re-install it after having a corrupted hard drive. That's when I started having crash problems. Now I'm using WinXP and have not crashed it or seen an BSOD either.

L8R....

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My Time: Tuesday, 28 December 2004 - 05:57 PM --800 (Pacific Standard Time)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I'll admit it: 98 was better than 95, 2000 was better than 98, and XP is a good OS for the home user. But until Longhorn/Foghorn/Leghorn comes out, it's still too wonky a code base.

I just loathe "OS"s that are little more than eye candy. If there's a new OS, it has to improve on the previous one - And I find that OS X did not deliver on that. Apple threw a lot of babies away with the Aqua: Newton, OpenDoc, PowerTalk, Speech Recognition, resource forks, the Desktop, AppleTalk, and a consistent UI. Had A/UX been recompiled for PPC, believe me, I'd have shelled out $250 for it (no puns intended). It truly was the best of both worlds. But instead I'm running NeXT with pinstripes, metal, and it's pure eye candy.

in short: Don't make an OS look good - Make it fly.

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> I just loathe "OS"s that are little more than eye candy. If there's a new OS,
> it has to improve on the previous one - And I find that OS X did not deliver
> on that. Apple threw a lot of babies away with the Aqua: Newton, OpenDoc,
> PowerTalk, Speech Recognition, resource forks, the Desktop, AppleTalk, and a
> consistent UI. Had A/UX been recompiled for PPC, believe me, I'd have shelled
> out $250 for it (no puns intended). It truly was the best of both worlds. But
> instead I'm running NeXT with pinstripes, metal, and it's pure eye candy.

Yes, well ... I am quite pleased with OS-X ... I grant they through away that code base with the transition. Since I started with Panther and my days of the Mac and Lisa are early 80's I don't miss those features.

I have to admit that I really do like Panther for development as I can move in and out with ease. Heck, a couple tweaks and I have PHP enabled and can do my testing local and then copy up the changes to the web site. I shudder to think of what I would have had to go through to do this with Windows.

And, with regular updates the system has gotten better. I think I started with 10.3.2 or 10.3.3; and now I have 10.3.7 with eager anticipation for "Tiger" which has a few of the features that Longhorn was supposed to offer.

The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that BOINC does not have a Macintosh GUI (yet!), but I simulate that with BOINC View and I can suffer for the moment. Once that comes out I am planning on dumping most of my computers of the Windows OS and move them to Linux, probably different versions so I can see if there is a difference in operation of BOINC for documentation. Not sure of that yet, when we get there I will see ...

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Since I started with Panther and my days of the Mac and Lisa are early 80's I don't miss those features.
Apple had some very good ideas and philosophies that were either aborted or abandoned. I hate to see good technology going to waste.

And, with regular updates the system has gotten better.
I can't think of the the last time that Apple had a "bad" update. There's no "Service Pack" hell!

The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that BOINC does not have a Macintosh GUI (yet!)
I find that a GUI bogs crunching down.

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> I find that a GUI bogs crunching down.

In general this is true. NOw the good news, the design they will be using for he cross platform GUI will isolate the GUI (BOINC Manager) and the BOINC Software module. So, the GUI is only up when and if you want it to be. I just like the ability to jump in and take a quick peek.

Also, I have not found a good way to set up the Mac (and don't feel like wasting my time with trial and reboot) so that it comes down and starts up clean. Granted, I do most of my management on one of the PCs with BOINC View and that takes care of most issues.

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