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Message 1557058 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 23:37:10 UTC

China dissident lawyer Gao Zhisheng 'destroyed by jail'

Leading Chinese dissident, Gao Zhisheng, has been "utterly destroyed" after three years in jail, says his international lawyer, Jared Gensher.

Mr Gao - who was released from prison last week - was emotionless, "basically unintelligible" and had lost teeth through malnutrition...




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I wonder what has happened to Ai Weiwei of late?


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Message 1557695 - Posted: 16 Aug 2014, 6:56:13 UTC - in response to Message 1557058.  

China dissident lawyer Gao Zhisheng 'destroyed by jail'

Leading Chinese dissident, Gao Zhisheng, has been "utterly destroyed" after three years in jail, says his international lawyer, Jared Gensher.

Mr Gao - who was released from prison last week - was emotionless, "basically unintelligible" and had lost teeth through malnutrition...




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:( Thanks for the links Martin, even though they're very sad and disturbing :(

Ms He has urged the Chinese government to allow Mr Gao to seek treatment in the United States, where she and their two children have been living since 2009.

I do hope they will, but...

I had a friend from China who had come to Britain on an emergency visa as a 24year old after her sister and brother-in-law died in a car accident here. She'd left her two very young children behind with her husband. Her son was 6 weeks old and her daughter was 2. The plan was for her to return to China taking her sister's three children (all born in the UK) with her as there were no other relatives here. The Chinese government refused her right of re-entry with the children, because they were British and because she had "violated the one-child policy". She could not leave them behind. She always thought "in a few weeks they'll grant my appeal..." It never happened. On top of having huge problems with the immigration office here, for the next 20 years the Chinese authorities played with her head, for no reason other than they could, and when her sister's children were technically old enough that she could leave them here, it then became she could not return because she had become a naturalised British subject herself. Lan never saw her children again. She died three years ago :(
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Message 1557713 - Posted: 16 Aug 2014, 7:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 1557695.  

China dissident lawyer Gao Zhisheng 'destroyed by jail'

Leading Chinese dissident, Gao Zhisheng, has been "utterly destroyed" after three years in jail, says his international lawyer, Jared Gensher.

Mr Gao - who was released from prison last week - was emotionless, "basically unintelligible" and had lost teeth through malnutrition...




No comment should be needed...

I wonder what has happened to Ai Weiwei of late?


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:( Thanks for the links Martin, even though they're very sad and disturbing :(

Ms He has urged the Chinese government to allow Mr Gao to seek treatment in the United States, where she and their two children have been living since 2009.

I do hope they will, but...

I had a friend from China who had come to Britain on an emergency visa as a 24year old after her sister and brother-in-law died in a car accident here. She'd left her two very young children behind with her husband. Her son was 6 weeks old and her daughter was 2. The plan was for her to return to China taking her sister's three children (all born in the UK) with her as there were no other relatives here. The Chinese government refused her right of re-entry with the children, because they were British and because she had "violated the one-child policy". She could not leave them behind. She always thought "in a few weeks they'll grant my appeal..." It never happened. On top of having huge problems with the immigration office here, for the next 20 years the Chinese authorities played with her head, for no reason other than they could, and when her sister's children were technically old enough that she could leave them here, it then became she could not return because she had become a naturalised British subject herself. Lan never saw her children again. She died three years ago :(


That's a really sad story anniet, how heartbreaking never to see your children again. Heartless and cruel.

Martin, also thanks for the links, but update on Ai Weiwei earlier this year..
an interview with ai weiwei
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Message 1557898 - Posted: 16 Aug 2014, 17:34:43 UTC - in response to Message 1557713.  

That's a really sad story anniet, how heartbreaking never to see your children again. Heartless and cruel.


Yep :( They played with her right till the end too when she was in the hospice dying of cancer. There are words that spring to mind...

Martin, also thanks for the links, but update on Ai Weiwei earlier this year..
an interview with ai weiwei


Thanks for the update Hev.

This made me beam :)

with characteristic mischief, the artist has turned the table on his tormentors and provided them with what they want for free. While they record Ai, he records himself, relaying his movements (and those of people around him) to the world in a constant stream, via Twitter and Instagram.

The rest did not... :(
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Message 1557916 - Posted: 16 Aug 2014, 19:04:07 UTC - in response to Message 1557898.  
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That's a really sad story anniet, how heartbreaking never to see your children again. Heartless and cruel.


Yep :( They played with her right till the end too when she was in the hospice dying of cancer. There are words that spring to mind...

Rather sad and unnecessary all round.


Martin, also thanks for the links, but update on Ai Weiwei earlier this year..
an interview with ai weiwei


Thanks for the update Hev.

Good article, thanks.


This made me beam :)

with characteristic mischief, the artist has turned the table on his tormentors and provided them with what they want for free. While they record Ai, he records himself, relaying his movements (and those of people around him) to the world in a constant stream, via Twitter and Instagram.

The rest did not... :(

A good example of some positive light despite dark adversity.


Two notable points from the article:

I ask if the government is still afraid of him. ‘Afraid of me?’ he says, stretching the last vowel to emphasise his incredulity. ‘If I can freely express myself, they have reason to be afraid of me. But if my words cannot get on the [Chinese] internet or newspaper or any media, then why are they so afraid of me?’

Inside China, Ai’s impact is neutralised: domestic media cannot mention his name. He talks about being officially cast as a ‘disease’, since the government worries that his calls for free speech and universal human rights might spread like a virus.


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At the heart of the matter is the Communist Party’s shaky claim to legitimacy. ‘You know, not my father’s generation, not my generation, not even my son’s generation will see voting,’ Ai passionately says. ‘So nobody can exercise their rights in public, [have] public opinions, or give anything related to public expression. That indicates several things: first you [the Party] are not legitimate, you can never be confident… So that puts you on a very fragile base. This is a fundamental philosophical problem. China has an identity crisis and is not intending to fix it.’


Such is a very different old world,

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