Maybe I'm also only talking about the urge, it's just that I love my children so much I'd kill for them Is what I really meant. I can't even kill a mosquito, let alone a human. My sister in law always says 'love is the strongest power', I kinda agree with her there. The word 'power' has a positive connotation here.

The urge is fine... I agree that we would all have the same urge. I know I would. But it is fighting that urge... that barbaric instinct of emotional revenge, that is important.

I think it is a barbaric, primitive reaction that we must fight against to show we are better than those who can kill remorselessly.

A mother, defending her children, is a primitive reaction. I wouldn't call it barbaric tho. We will always have those primitive reactions, it's part of our nature. I think every mother with her heart in the right place would do the same as I.

I dont Think there are many mothers in this thread Julie
Many fathers though.

Oh, there are a few mothers here. I have children and grandchildren and I think Julie is wrong about other mothers. Perhaps that urge to kill might exist for a few seconds but I hope I would never kill anyone.
I also find the existence of PTSD from soldiers returning from war one of the most hopeful aspects of humanity.

Maybe I'm also only talking about the urge, it's just that I love my children so much I'd kill for them Is what I really meant. I can't even kill a mosquito, let alone a human. My sister in law always says 'love is the strongest power', I kinda agree with her there. The word 'power' has a positive connotation here.

Heard of this?
The term ahimsa (Sanskrit: अहिंसा, Ahiṃsā) means non-violence, non-injury or absence of desire to harm any life forms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa_in_Jainism
Hm.. Wonder if they take antibiotics.
I have seen on TV that they wear masks so that they dont swallow insects by mistake.

Maybe I'm also only talking about the urge, it's just that I love my children so much I'd kill for them Is what I really meant. I can't even kill a mosquito, let alone a human. My sister in law always says 'love is the strongest power', I kinda agree with her there. The word 'power' has a positive connotation here.

The urge is fine... I agree that we would all have the same urge. I know I would. But it is fighting that urge... that barbaric instinct of emotional revenge, that is important.

People all have different characters. One is more emotional or has a bigger survival instinct than the other, we're all so different...People who have the 'power' with a negative connotation here, are dangerous individuals.


+1 on your post before this, the effects are very important, we also do say that remorse always comes too late, just a fact. Not everyone is going to kill someone but we all have primitive reactions that cause remorse. In the case of eye for an eye with evil intentions, +1 again.

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So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

Thats true Michel.

+4 this is humanity speaking in this thread:)

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So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

That was low.

Maybe I'm also only talking about the urge, it's just that I love my children so much I'd kill for them Is what I really meant. I can't even kill a mosquito, let alone a human. My sister in law always says 'love is the strongest power', I kinda agree with her there. The word 'power' has a positive connotation here.

The urge is fine... I agree that we would all have the same urge. I know I would. But it is fighting that urge... that barbaric instinct of emotional revenge, that is important.

People all have different characters. One is more emotional or has a bigger survival instinct than the other, we're all so different...People who have the 'power' with a negative connotation here, are dangerous individuals.


+1 on your post before this, the effects are very important, we also do say that remorse always comes too late, just a fact. Not everyone is going to kill someone but we all have primitive reactions that cause remorse. In the case of eye for an eye with evil intentions, +1 again.

Reaction is reaction. It lacks thought. Without thought can there be barbarism? Is the lion chasing down the meal barbaric? Some things come from the brain stem, not the cortex.

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Reaction is reaction. It lacks thought. Without thought can there be barbarism? Is the lion chasing down the meal barbaric? Some things come from the brain stem, not the cortex.

Scientific explanation about Triune brain:)
MacLean proposed that the reptilian complex was responsible for species-typical instinctual behaviors involved in aggression, dominance, territoriality, and ritual displays.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain

Maybe I'm also only talking about the urge, it's just that I love my children so much I'd kill for them Is what I really meant. I can't even kill a mosquito, let alone a human. My sister in law always says 'love is the strongest power', I kinda agree with her there. The word 'power' has a positive connotation here.

The urge is fine... I agree that we would all have the same urge. I know I would. But it is fighting that urge... that barbaric instinct of emotional revenge, that is important.

People all have different characters. One is more emotional or has a bigger survival instinct than the other, we're all so different...People who have the 'power' with a negative connotation here, are dangerous individuals.


+1 on your post before this, the effects are very important, we also do say that remorse always comes too late, just a fact. Not everyone is going to kill someone but we all have primitive reactions that cause remorse. In the case of eye for an eye with evil intentions, +1 again.

Reaction is reaction. It lacks thought. Without thought can there be barbarism? Is the lion chasing down the meal barbaric? Some things come from the brain stem, not the cortex.

Humans evolved, the brain evolved with it of course. Primal instincts is something we kept though, unfortunately as it may seem at times.

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So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)

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I think it is a barbaric, primitive reaction that we must fight against to show we are better than those who can kill remorselessly.

A mother, defending her children, is a primitive reaction. I wouldn't call it barbaric tho. We will always have those primitive reactions, it's part of our nature. I think every mother with her heart in the right place would do the same as I.

I dont Think there are many mothers in this thread Julie
Many fathers though.

Oh, there are a few mothers here. I have children and grandchildren and I think Julie is wrong about other mothers. Perhaps that urge to kill might exist for a few seconds but I hope I would never kill anyone.

I really hope not.

Should I cancel your visit?

*gulp*

I also find the existence of PTSD from soldiers returning from war one of the most hopeful aspects of humanity.

This is true. People have to be programmed to kill. It is not as natural as some people think. Although infanticide is more common than seems to be acknowledged. I am surprised that Gary has not bought up how in nature mothers who are stressed or unable to feed their young often kill them.

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No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Now you are talking about the use of soldiers in military conflicts. We were talking about executing criminals. Different things altogether.

And if I were responsible for sending troops into a conflict zone with the intention of having them fight some enemy, I would ultimately be responsible for what they do and what happens to them. If you think my hands would be free of blood, I think you don't understand the responsibility of political leaders in conflicts.

In any case, all I ask for is a good reason before I give my okay to something that ends someone elses life. If you don't have a good reason, I'm not okay with it. And to say that someone is just some horrible criminal is not a good enough reason.

So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)

+1 Thats not SETI spirit:)

So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)

+1 Thats not SETI spirit:)

It goes into the right direction tho, very punny:)

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So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)

+1 Thats not SETI spirit:)

It goes into the right direction tho, very punny:)

+100

I think it is a barbaric, primitive reaction that we must fight against to show we are better than those who can kill remorselessly.

A mother, defending her children, is a primitive reaction. I wouldn't call it barbaric tho. We will always have those primitive reactions, it's part of our nature. I think every mother with her heart in the right place would do the same as I.

I dont Think there are many mothers in this thread Julie
Many fathers though.

Oh, there are a few mothers here. I have children and grandchildren and I think Julie is wrong about other mothers. Perhaps that urge to kill might exist for a few seconds but I hope I would never kill anyone.

I really hope not.
Should I cancel your visit?
*gulp*

I also find the existence of PTSD from soldiers returning from war one of the most hopeful aspects of humanity.

This is true. People have to be programmed to kill. It is not as natural as some people think. Although infanticide is more common than seems to be acknowledged. I am surprised that Gary has not bought up how in nature mothers who are stressed or unable to feed their young often kill them.

In Scandinavia in old ages, mothers sometimes put the new born childs in the forest when they couldn't support them.
But most of the times they put the Child in front of a Church door.
It sometimes happens even today:(

I think it is a barbaric, primitive reaction that we must fight against to show we are better than those who can kill remorselessly.

A mother, defending her children, is a primitive reaction. I wouldn't call it barbaric tho. We will always have those primitive reactions, it's part of our nature. I think every mother with her heart in the right place would do the same as I.

I dont Think there are many mothers in this thread Julie
Many fathers though.

Oh, there are a few mothers here. I have children and grandchildren and I think Julie is wrong about other mothers. Perhaps that urge to kill might exist for a few seconds but I hope I would never kill anyone.

I really hope not.
Should I cancel your visit?
*gulp*

I also find the existence of PTSD from soldiers returning from war one of the most hopeful aspects of humanity.

This is true. People have to be programmed to kill. It is not as natural as some people think. Although infanticide is more common than seems to be acknowledged. I am surprised that Gary has not bought up how in nature mothers who are stressed or unable to feed their young often kill them.

In Scandinavia in old ages, mothers sometimes put the new born childs in the forest when they couldn't support them.
But most of the times they put the Child in front of a Church door.
It sometimes happens even today:(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law
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So you feel good that innocent women & children are killed every day so long as you feel that the killers are treated humanely by society?

If we kill them, we aren't any better now are we.

No, people like you never kill or have the courage for it, you'd much rather send others out to do it for you when your "diplomatic skills" fail, all the while keeping your own hands free of blood.

Please ... please, Sirius, make peace with Michel. Or eye keel u! :)

WHY? This is the politics board where, more often than not, the truth hurts. With the responses so far to my post, just confirms that fact.

You want Seti Spirit? Easy, go to Dirk's site & download the latest version which is 2.4.8