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Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email? That got broken on the Boinc dev board too. Claggy |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email? And now also at Beta. B***er. You'd expect to be swapping code snippets on a Beta project, even if it isn't a high priority here. Addendum upcoming... |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
OK, I've collected four different error messages from Did you happen to drop a reminder about http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/client_types.php not updating, or is that more for the project guys to do? SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
OK, I've collected four different error messages from Some of the other new stats tools like cpu_list.php and gpu_list.php are clearly BOINC-generic, because they work at other projects too. But client_types.php doesn't (and it's not in the BOINC source \html\user tree) - so I think it must be SETI-specific, and doesn't really belong in David's lap with the rest of this set. I did mention it in passing when we sorted out the last BOINC-induced server error - old client versions not being allocated new work, at the beginning of this month - but I didn't make a big song-and-dance about it. Just that it would have been useful then... |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
I get this on my account page: I got this too, just a few minutes ago, and yes my donations are missing. I had some database errors in the forums last night, about the time the cricket shows a big spike (6pm PDT), but I just went back and tried again and it was okay. I wasn't paying attention to my crunchers' connections at the time. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Has anyone else noticed a problem with the the validators running way behind. I know of at least 5 of my WUs that have been reported by both me and my wingman and are still sitting in a Validation Pending state, with "Completed, waiting for validation", for over 15 hours. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799024 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599798865 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792725 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599792731 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599799042 There are probably more, but I stopped checking after 5. I noticed these before I went to bed last night, but decided to wait until this morning to see if they had validated. They don't appear to have done so. (I even cleared my browser cache, just to make sure I wasn't getting old news.) These were all reported after yesterdays outage. Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland! |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
OK, 13:00 UTC has arrived. Any more error messages to report, while I draft the email? I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-) |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Has anyone else noticed a problem with the the validators running way behind. I know of at least 5 of my WUs that have been reported by both me and my wingman and are still sitting in a Validation Pending state, with "Completed, waiting for validation", for over 15 hours. With 1,129 pending, I think I'll wait until the daily reports have purged through before checking to see what's left - the anomalies will stand out more clearly then. Somebody remind me in a couple of weeks, please. There is a failsafe in place, which weeds out most errors like that - the transitioners/validators take a second look at stuck WUs on the day the original deadlines would have passed (three weeks for shorties, six/seven/eight weeks away for the rest). I think the database can stand a short-term overload like that - and think of your credits as safe in a savings account. But I think most regular posters will have instances of pending tasks which get stuck for months, or even years - that's a more serious problem, because there's no remaining failsafe triggering another retry. That should be added to the list of things that would be fixed if the project had an infinite supply of Round Tuits, but it's a long list. |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Richard, Looks like I was editing my post while you were typing, so I'll copy it here. Edit: Oh yeah, I've got lots more! It looks like any tasks I reported between about 23:41 and 23:51 UTC yesterday, where I was the second wingman to report (which should have triggered the validators) are hung up in Neverland! Perhaps some other high-volume users could take a look in that window and see if there's a pattern. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-) Then work your magic here too, please. I've got a 9,000+ character, 229 line code snippet in my private message inbox from the server problems at the beginning of this month, and it's being rendered all on one line. Talk about thread s - t - r - e - t - c - h - i - n - g ... |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Richard, Fair point. There are only 22 'Workunits waiting for validation' shown on the server status page (down from 63 a few minutes ago), so it sounds like that counting routine is broken too, even though the page itself seems to be working despite the error messages. |
WezH Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 576 Credit: 67,033,957 RAC: 95 |
I'm do have this error code on every page Notice: Undefined variable: PROJECT in /disks/carolyn/b/home/boincadm/projects/sah/html/languages/compiled/pl.po.inc on line 374 Maybe because I'm in Finland but I do use English language WinXP/Chrome and I choose English as my language in S@H pages? Also fonts are really big etc. "Please keep Your signature under four lines so Internet traffic doesn't go up too much" - In 1992 when I had my first e-mail address - |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Richard, Here's another twist. For WU 1598612308 mine was the third host tie-breaker. My task is "Completed, waiting for validation", while the other 2 are still "Completed, validation inconclusive". |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Wez, Most people are seeing these as well on different pages. Seems to be related to the changes they did yesterday. Hopefully they are working on fixing these problems. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Wez, That particular one hadn't been mentioned before, and wasn't in my 'comprenhensive compendium' error report to the BOINC devs. I can't see it on "every page", even by selecting a non-default language, but I do see it on language_select.php, so I'll add it to the next batch. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta? Or are the Boinc servers at UCB rather than the colo? |
Juha Send message Joined: 7 Mar 04 Posts: 388 Credit: 1,857,738 RAC: 0 |
I can finally do them. They now work for me, both as HTML code and as the actual character. ;-) Make everyone a project admin? :P |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Here's another twist. For WU 1598612308 mine was the third host tie-breaker. My task is "Completed, waiting for validation", while the other 2 are still "Completed, validation inconclusive". And APs are included, too: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1599954929 |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta? Two possible answers to that one: 1) By testing here, there are many more pairs of eyes available for proof-reading, and the bugs get eradicated quickly. 2) David thinks that the code he writes is good enough to be placed in the public domain immediately, without testing. I'll leave it to readers to choose their own solution..... The physical location of the servers is irrelevant - server administrators globally are used to working remotely these days, and very little is done hands-on except hardware replacement. For what it's worth, the BOINC server (Isaac) was relocated to the colo as well, shortly after the SETI server farm was moved. |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
Hmm, here's a poser as I've not seen it mentioned anywhere. Now that the project has relocated to the colo, rather than see all this testing on Seti main, why not re-activate Boinc Alpha & do all the testing there & as well on Seti Beta? Well the colo is part of the Berkeley campus & run by their IT staff IIRC. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
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