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Message 1558576 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 8:53:05 UTC - in response to Message 1558574.  

I seen the server page with no astra pulse work and lot of red one off
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Message 1558577 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 8:59:12 UTC - in response to Message 1558576.  
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I seen the server page with no astra pulse work and lot of red one off

OK, I understand.
Here is an explanation.

Astropulse WUs are not always available.

When new datasets are loaded into the splitting queue, they are the first ones to be split, and they are split up faster than multibeam WUs.
So, then we have to wait until the multibeam work is sent out and more datasets are loaded for splitting.

And when there is no astropulse work to be split, the AP splitters go to sleep.
That is why you see them in red. There is no work for them to do, so they show up in the status page as not running, in red. They are not broken, just nothing for them to work on right now.

Does that help explain it for you?
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Message 1558578 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 9:06:19 UTC - in response to Message 1558577.  

I see now I thought they had broken down nice to know they working As I am change graphics card wedesday from ati hd 5550 to nvidia gtx760 it mite work better than the old one on here
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Message 1558579 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 9:07:24 UTC - in response to Message 1558578.  

I see now I thought they had broken down nice to know they working As I am change graphics card wedesday from ati hd 5550 to nvidia gtx760 it mite work better than the old one on here

Best of luck with it.
If you have problems, you know where to come for help.

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Message 1558631 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 10:39:34 UTC - in response to Message 1558523.  

Looks like it's still stuck at 4.

Yeah, you're right. All the others have moved on, but it hasn't.
18fe09ag strikes again.


I'm thinking it would be an excellent tape to put to one side.
If the team ever get a chance to work on the sticky tape issue, this one would be the perfect candidate for checking it out. This must be the 5th (6th?) time it's gotten stuck.
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Message 1558636 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 10:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 1558631.  
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Looks like it's still stuck at 4.

Yeah, you're right. All the others have moved on, but it hasn't.
18fe09ag strikes again.


I'm thinking it would be an excellent tape to put to one side.
If the team ever get a chance to work on the sticky tape issue, this one would be the perfect candidate for checking it out. This must be the 5th (6th?) time it's gotten stuck.

No, it's only been restarted maybe 3 times. I think you are confusing it with the last boner.
At any rate, it's like a bone stuck in the fish that is not as much of a concern now that we have a few more fishers. Unless it's in your throat and you are choking. Which we are not doing now.

The project admins shall decide if a dataset is corrupted enough to toss.
They have usually restarted most a number of times and then they complete.
As long as we now have enough 'spare' splitters online, it is off my radar.
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Message 1558644 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 10:55:42 UTC

What i can´t still understand is why a tape stuck if the splitting process is is very simple, just take the data and divide in small pieces. Maybe the problem is not in the tape itself and is in the splitter itself, did anyone else rememeber the same hapening with several other tapes in the last weeks.

Something we need to agree they need to fix that ASAP.
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Message 1558645 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 10:59:45 UTC - in response to Message 1558644.  

What i can´t still understand is why a tape stuck if the splitting process is is very simple, just take the data and divide in small pieces. Maybe the problem is not in the tape itself and is in the splitter itself, did anyone else rememeber the same hapening with several other tapes in the last weeks.

Something we need to agree they need to fix that ASAP.

Friend Juan.............
It is not so pretty as you please.
There are things that make it difficult to discern the difference between just slow spitting and a dead stall.

I have had some conversation with Eric about this.

So please do not think it is something easily avoided.
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Message 1558646 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 11:12:40 UTC - in response to Message 1558645.  

What i can´t still understand is why a tape stuck if the splitting process is is very simple, just take the data and divide in small pieces. Maybe the problem is not in the tape itself and is in the splitter itself, did anyone else rememeber the same hapening with several other tapes in the last weeks.

Something we need to agree they need to fix that ASAP.

Friend Juan.............
It is not so pretty as you please.
There are things that make it difficult to discern the difference between just slow spitting and a dead stall.

I have had some conversation with Eric about this.

So please do not think it is something easily avoided.

My friend i never even imagine it´s easy but that problem is critical to the health of the entire project. Spltting is the start point of all our work, if it fail the entire project stucks.
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Message 1558650 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 11:22:01 UTC - in response to Message 1558646.  

What i can´t still understand is why a tape stuck if the splitting process is is very simple, just take the data and divide in small pieces. Maybe the problem is not in the tape itself and is in the splitter itself, did anyone else rememeber the same hapening with several other tapes in the last weeks.

Something we need to agree they need to fix that ASAP.

Friend Juan.............
It is not so pretty as you please.
There are things that make it difficult to discern the difference between just slow spitting and a dead stall.

I have had some conversation with Eric about this.

So please do not think it is something easily avoided.

My friend i never even imagine it´s easy but that problem is critical to the health of the entire project. Spltting is the start point of all our work, if it fail the entire project stucks.

K, dude.
I spent the better part of two days trying to get in touch with Eric or somebody who Eric could reach.

I have my contacts...but they do not always work, kid.
You best stand down a bit.
This is a as is, as you want project.

Nothing is promised. I stand on my participation. You diss me again, enough.
I will not stand for any more.

You lead the team where you shall from here.

I am buckshot and crawling.

Done.
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Message 1558663 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 11:43:07 UTC
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ok; let me understand as absolute newbee in term of SETI: we are running out of WU for GPU ?

I signed up for WOW in the hop to get my GTX 780 something different then proteins but actually the only WU I get are CPU one ... in addition those are ok; but the really computational power in my rigs are the GPU.
Actually I though I had a misconfig but seems we just don't have enough work ?

thanks for any insights and explanation I as SETI/BOINC roocky can understand (
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Message 1558668 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 12:01:44 UTC

ok; let me understand as absolute newbee in term of SETI: we are running out of WU for GPU ?


No we are not, there was a point over the weekend when that might have happened but extra splitters were brought online and all seems OK

I have 7 rigs running and all 7 are totally full of GPU work.

There is no such thing as a "GPU WU" your PC asks for CPU or GPU work and the servers comply, if you are not getting GPU work the problem may well be your end.
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Message 1558672 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 12:09:28 UTC
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What could be wrong in my config ; where to look after ? What can I do to get GPU WU ? Ubuntu 14.04, two GTX780 with CUDA6, system works well with F@H. That one is stopped fully so system is dedicated to SETI right now.

When startig boinc client it identify my system and the two GPU, it says 0 tasks for nvidia.
I have some abandoned WU in my list, doesn't wait until those are gone ?

In the first night of WOW I got som 20WU assigned for GPU , but nothing afterwards

(Maybe spinoff into of in new thread ?)
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Message 1558688 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 12:50:33 UTC

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There plenity of new WU for MB crunching after our kindly friend Mark was able to contact Eric, they start the aditional splitter and kick the stuck tape (who seem stuck again BTW).

I belive new AP WU will be avaiable as usual after tomorrow scheduler weekely manteinance.

Unfortunately we can´t try to help you if your computers are hidden, so if you still not receiving new WU you need to unhidde them first and them ask again for help. I´m sure there will be a lot of people ready to give you a hand here.
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Message 1558723 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 14:41:20 UTC

Our 18fe09ag tape aparently is stuck again.
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Message 1558726 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 14:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1558723.  
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Our 18fe09ag tape aparently is stuck again.

Yes it looks like it was stuck again very soon after being poked yesterday, as we have been saying.
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Message 1558730 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 14:58:14 UTC - in response to Message 1558672.  

What could be wrong in my config ; where to look after ? What can I do to get GPU WU ? Ubuntu 14.04, two GTX780 with CUDA6, system works well with F@H. That one is stopped fully so system is dedicated to SETI right now.

There isn't a "stock" CUDA MB build for Linux. There is an AP build for it; if you've just signed up and are not using "anonymous platform" you will get AP jobs when they are available, but as you can see there aren't any available at the moment.
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Message 1558732 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 15:06:26 UTC - in response to Message 1558730.  

What could be wrong in my config ; where to look after ? What can I do to get GPU WU ? Ubuntu 14.04, two GTX780 with CUDA6, system works well with F@H. That one is stopped fully so system is dedicated to SETI right now.

There isn't a "stock" CUDA MB build for Linux. There is an AP build for it; if you've just signed up and are not using "anonymous platform" you will get AP jobs when they are available, but as you can see there aren't any available at the moment.

They might like to see list of stock applications. It can be found:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php
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Message 1558811 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 17:52:23 UTC - in response to Message 1558663.  

ok; let me understand as absolute newbee in term of SETI: we are running out of WU for GPU ?

I signed up for WOW in the hop to get my GTX 780 something different then proteins but actually the only WU I get are CPU one ... in addition those are ok; but the really computational power in my rigs are the GPU.
Actually I though I had a misconfig but seems we just don't have enough work ?

thanks for any insights and explanation I as SETI/BOINC roocky can understand (

The project has two kinds of WUs, SETI@home v7 (usually called MB here) and Astropulse v6 (AP). You're running Linux on the GTX 780 system, and the project does not have a GPU Linux application for MB. There is a third party Linux CUDA port being developed, but I don't know its status.

Just now there's no AP work available, which you will be able to process on the GTX 780. Within a day or two there should be another batch split.
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Message 1558853 - Posted: 18 Aug 2014, 19:14:29 UTC

And I just heard back from Jeff.
He has removed the stuck WU...
I did not ask, but I suppose they may retry it later.

Hopefully smooth sailing for the rest of the WOW event.

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