In the wake of revelations that a Australian couple has left 1 child whom was a twin in Thailand with the surrogate mother whom is a poor woman . Should having a foreign surrogate be allowed or band ?

The reason they left the twin in Thailand is the child was born with Down Syndrome .

Should those parents be charged with abandonment of there child or child abuse ?

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Should having a foreign surrogate be allowed or band ?

What's you problem? Worried about racial purity?

Should having a foreign surrogate be allowed or band ?

What's you problem? Worried about racial purity?

That baby is white as snow. Rich white women no longer have to carry their own children. It was known that the baby had downs syndrome early in the pregnancy and the biological parents wanted to terminate the "cells" but the surrogate refused on religious grounds.

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so where is the appology yes i am pissed at your post Gary uncalled for mate it has nothing to do with race this kid should not have been left there the surrogate has no gentic link to this child you bloody moron

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If Batter Up is correct in saying that the biological parents wanted to terminate the pregnancy early after the condition was known then I have no problem with them leaving the child with the surrogate mother.

She made it her own personal problem by enforcing her own religious objection.

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Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004.
Search for your own intelligence...

On the one hand that shows how callous the parents are. Would they have abanded that baby if she had carried it for 9 months? Also there are various degrees of downs, Some kids live very productives lives. Some others dont. I wonder if they will even think of that baby as time goes on.
My other hand says that maybe there needs to be some way to beef up international laws to stop such abuses of taking advantage of the poor.

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Old James

Daykay you are aware that the rules for surragates in our own country is far different than in Thailand .

So why should people be allowed to get around our own laws and go to another country the child is a innocent victim of callas perants .

I would also like to know was there any money changing hands ?

Did the surrogate spend this money and when the perants wish to terminate did they want there money back ?

And at what point in the pregnantcy did they find out ? before the first 3 months or after ?

If after 3 months i believe it is dangerous to the mother(surrogate) to terminate after 3 months ?

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Would they have abanded that baby if she had carried it for 9 months?

I doubt they would have carried it. They would have aborted it.

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Would they have abanded that baby if she had carried it for 9 months?

I doubt they would have carried it. They would have aborted it.

But it was a twin, Can you abort just one baby and not harm the other?

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Old James

But it was a twin, Can you abort just one baby and not harm the other?

A very good question .

Any doctors or Nurses out there that could shed some light on that ?

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the surrogate has no gentic link to this child you bloody moron

perhaps in this case, but not always. eggs and/or sperm get sold in addition to rent a womb. maybe you didn't know that, and your blanket statement about a "band" didn't exclude that possibility.

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In the interest of better informed discussion:

The original story:
'I chose to have him not to hurt him': Surrogate mother speaks of abandoned baby

Today's follow up:
Gammy may not survive: surrogate mother

In one of those it specifically talks about the surrogacy laws being restrictive/tricky in Australia and that is why prospective parents outsource this service to overseas surrogates.

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Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004.
Search for your own intelligence...

NO mate your are completely wrong there you should have tried to find out a bit about it first before making a rascist statement that had nothing to do with this case .

2nd post on a new thread ! you can't now try and back out from your statement by saying i was only joking either i would have accepted the comment if there had been more posts and the discussion was getting heated

But you just P%^ked it out and now can't even apologise for it .Says a F$%king lot about you

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Thanks Daykay i'll check it out

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NO mate your are completely wrong there you should have tried to find out a bit about it first before making a rascist statement that had nothing to do with this case .

2nd post on a new thread ! you can't now try and back out from your statement by saying i was only joking either i would have accepted the comment if there had been more posts and the discussion was getting heated

But you just P%^ked it out and now can't even apologise for it .Says a F$%king lot about you

Neither news story says where sperm or egg came from. They just say "parents" they don't even say "biologic parents" Let that sink in.

you asked

Should having a foreign surrogate be allowed or band ?

you didn't ask
"in this specific case should having a foreign surrogate have been allowed or banned?"

It damn well sounds like you want some Australian hegemony and impose your laws on other countries. So what are you going to do anyway? Ban parents using a surrogate by not letting the kid in because the kid isn't legally Australian? Going to jail the parents when they get back and toss the kin in an orphanage? I doubt you like the perception of your hegemony by others, but it is what it is.

You can get all huffy if you want, or you could try using English not Australian slang if you want to communicate with the rest of the world.

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Seems to be developing in a slanging match, so locking for a cool down

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