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Message 1551217 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 2:24:32 UTC
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I've just downloaded the Bionic Software and selected to run the SETI Application built in, I've received a "No Work Available to Process." I'm curious to know if my System is to out Dated, or if I have done something wrong and finally if their is just no Work available?

I'm completely new to SETI@Home, I've all ways had an interest in the Paranormal, Extraterrestrial and obscure thing as such.

The only background Knowledge I have of Distributed Computing is Folding@Home, aka f@h..

I have wanted to take an interest for a good while but just decided to look up the Project Seti@home. I've been reading Wiki, the forums, Home Page and looking and reading about the Bionic Software. Also Can I just quickly ask is Seti@home available for android tablets, even the lower end models. I'm prepared to spend Money investing in my setup & equipment but what I have just said " ^^ " I am completely new to this project and also the BIONIC Software.

Thanks for your Help In advance.

Edit: I've downloaded within the BIONIC software within the SETI@Home computer Distribution I think four Wu's as to witch they are saying in regards to the first WU I think its going to take four hours to complete. My System must be OK in regards to not being too dated. Have I selected something i shouldn't as to why its downloaded Four Wu's. Should I somehow Remove\Delete them. Thus the BIONIC software updating it self, when the Wu's are completed and the next one ready.

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Message 1551347 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 7:30:36 UTC - in response to Message 1551217.

 
1) it is BOINC - not Bionic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Open_Infrastructure_for_Network_Computing




2) 4 tasks is nothing, you can have many more in wait to be started.
They are 'reserve' for when servers are on expected maintenance/backup (Tuesday) or unexpected offline.
The amount of 'reserve' work that BOINC Downloads depend on the speed of your computer and on the Setting:

Maintain enough tasks to keep busy for at least XX days

Computing preferences


3) Tasks are automatically downloaded, results uploaded and reported.
Leave BOINC for a day unattended and you'll see.

You get 'Credit' (can't be used for anything, it's just as points in a game) only after your task result is compared (validated) with the same task result done by another person's computer.
(this another person is often called 'wingman', it is random chosen)


4) the best BOINC for Android is NativeBOINC
http://nativeboinc.org/site/uncat/start

(I don't have such a device, I speak from what I have read on the forum)
 
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Message 1551359 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 7:56:39 UTC
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Sorry about that, I've been up all night and I've seriously read that wrong. Like I said I have never looked in to it until last night and decided to take part. I meed some sleep. :LOL ..

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Message 1551658 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 23:50:21 UTC - in response to Message 1551359.

 
It is very common for BOINC to be mistyped as bionic, bonic, bionc, boing, bonc, ...

;) Even in one sentence like:
"Un-installed Bonic and then re-installed Boinc"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75264


I use abbreviations, I just type b` and it becomes BOINC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73694

 
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Message 1551907 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 17:17:31 UTC

I used to run SETI@Home on a 90MHz Pentium until it died. The code has not been changed enough since then to not run on a P90. I assume that your current computer is newer than that...
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Message 1552697 - Posted: 5 Aug 2014, 21:28:15 UTC

I will be purchasing an Android Device next week and thus using NativeBOINC in order to utilize SETI@Home. Thanks for the Link.

I'm currently running a Faster CPU than the P90 but not a great deal in the way of high end kit. I wanted to get involved with SETI@Home as I wanted my computing Power to go to good use as I had the system their and it was not doing nothing.

I've been reading up and looking at various things and I think I could really end up getting involved with BOINC and various Distributed Computing projects. Like I say the only experience I have is Folding.

I have another question and that's what should I expect from an Android Tablet more than likely being a Low End Model as to which I'm going to purchase next week, in regards to a Time frame for Work Units completed and Points as yous have explained.

Also can I run BOINC on my on board GPU, if so what do I need to do? With regards to SETI.

Honestly, thanks for your help in advance as I'm like a fish out of water. lol ..

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Message 1552702 - Posted: 5 Aug 2014, 21:37:06 UTC - in response to Message 1552697.

I will be purchasing an Android Device next week and thus using NativeBOINC in order to utilize SETI@Home.

Do know that NativeBOINC is no longer being developed or updated.

Berkeley does have its own client for Android as well and it is actively being updated and produced. Downloads available through the Google Play Store and through the BOINC download all page.

Any questions about that can be asked on the BOINC Google Test Group listing.
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Message 1552713 - Posted: 5 Aug 2014, 21:57:42 UTC

"Do know that NativeBOINC is no longer being developed or updated."



Thanks for that, I've just followed the Links you have provided and as long as BOINC will run SETI@home when I purchase the Tablet I have in mind next week I don't mind.

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Message 1565441 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:18:33 UTC

Hi i wonder why do i get old recordings from 2008 and 2009? :)

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Message 1565483 - Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 18:21:29 UTC - in response to Message 1565441.

Hi i wonder why do i get old recordings from 2008 and 2009? :)

Because that is the tape that is being split.

There are several possible reasons:
1) The first run of the data is pulled in "box sort order" -- Whenever a new tape / disk needs to be pulled to be split, the admin reaches into a box and pulls out the first one that comes to hand.
2) Re-scanning signals that failed the first time because of too much noise. The software is better at dealing with noise now.
3) (unlikely) A WU that has not been completed yet due to non-return of results...

The signal would take 20 to 200 years to get here, why would a few years in the queue make much difference?
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Message 1565643 - Posted: 1 Sep 2014, 7:56:29 UTC - in response to Message 1565441.

And this have to be "why do we get", not "why do i get"

Look
Server status page

Under 'Splitter status' - 'File name' you'll see which 'tapes' are in processing now
('splitting' - making small WU files to be sent to us from 50 GB big files. Those big files we call 'tapes' for historical reasons)
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Message 1570495 - Posted: 11 Sep 2014, 15:37:01 UTC - in response to Message 1551217.

I'm definitely no expert, but try adding Boinc as friendly site in your firewall settings in the control panel.. hope that helps and good luck.


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