If I were a member of a terrorist organization bent on causing havoc among the western nations

Did anyone bother to ask about patient zero who flew into Dallas as to what was his religious affiliation??

The logic I don't understand is the claim that banning incoming flights from the affected west african countries would make it easier for infected persons to enter the USA

Don't you see Bob. If there were an infestation of flies buzzing around your house you should open the door so that they could come in and cause havoc --but eventually you could kill them with your fly swatter. Therefore you should not keep your doors and windows shut. You see it's all very simple. Any moron could follow this logic and He (President Obola) has.

MajorKong, Ron Klain, known for ... He was portrayed by Kevin Spacey in the HBO film Recount. That's all I know about him.

Some good news in Senegal!

Ebola Outbreak In Senegal Over: WHO

GENEVA (AP) — The U.N. health agency officially declared an end Friday to the Ebola outbreak in Senegal, a rare bit of good news amid the public outcry and fear over the deadly disease that remains out of control in three West African countries.

The World Health Organization said it "commends the country on its diligence to end the transmission of the virus," citing Senegal's quick and thorough response.

Cases are still spreading in Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, with more than 4,500 deaths.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/17/ebola-senegal-over_n_6003056.html

Some good news for the people in Senegal, thanx Lynn:)

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[url]Then start pressing charges against the idiots and mental cases for filing a false charge.
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You can't. The courts will say they can't help themselves. It's a waste of time and money to try. You also can't use restraining orders. All they have to do is call 911 and the law forces paramedics to take them to the ER. I'll rely on Western Medicine if we can get all the politicians out of the way.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798086/mutant-ebola-warning-leading-u-s-scientist-warns-deadly-virus-changing-contagious.html

Mutant Ebola warning: Leading U.S. scientist warns deadly virus is already changing to become more contagious

Fears that the deadly virus could mutate and become even more contagious
Dr Peter Jahrling says amount of virus in patients is higher than expected
The U.S. scientist says new strain of Ebola may burn 'hotter and quicker'
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The deadly Ebola virus could be mutating to become even more contagious, a leading U.S scientist has warned.

The disease has killed nearly 4,000 people, infecting in excess of 8,000 - the majority in the West African nations of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia.

Communities lie in ruins, thousands of children have been orphaned, millions face starvation but the virus continues its unprecedented pace, invading and destroying vast swathes of these countries.
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Meanwhile three nurses, two in the U.S. and one in Spain have caught the infection while treating Ebola patients, despite wearing protective suits.

Now U.S. scientist Peter Jahrling of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease believes the current Ebola outbreak may be caused by an infection that spreads more easily than it did before.

Dr Jahrling explained that his team, who are working in the epicentre of the crisis in the Liberian capital of Monrovia, are seeing that the viral loads in Ebola patients are much higher than they are used to seeing.

He told Vox.com: 'We are using tests now that weren't using in the past, but there seems to be a belief that the virus load is higher in these patients [today] than what we have seen before. If true, that's a very different bug.

'I have a field team in Monrovia. They are running [tests]. They are telling me that viral loads are coming up very quickly and really high, higher than they are used to seeing.

'It may be that the virus burns hotter and quicker.'
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The scientist quoted above:

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/labsandresources/labs/aboutlabs/emergingviralpathogens/Pages/default.aspx

Peter Jahrling, Ph.D.

Chief Scientist, NIAID Integrated Research Facility
Chief, Emerging Viral Pathogens Section

Just repeating a question:

Why haven't the Dallas Family, of the Ebola Infected Man, contacted Ebola? Day 20 and counting.

He was vomiting, had diarrhea, and the Family had no protective gear.

Why ONLY The Health Care Workers?

Strange... The family members show no signs of the disease?

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We haven't heard anything about the family in a while, other than the finance of his releasing a statement saying the hospital was sorry about his death. That is weird that there has been no updates on how they are doing.

Sunday they are technically clear of danger.

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Strange... The family members show no signs of the disease?

I don't think it's strange.
Ebola does not have an airborne vector of transmission otherwise there would be orders of magnitude more infected persons.

Then it would be like flu and be a disease that would wipe a significant fraction of the earths population of humans out.

So it appears that casual family contact isn't an issue, but intimate medical contact is. Just what you have been being told. Now get over your hysterical scare.

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Strange... The family members show no signs of the disease?

I don't think it's strange.
Ebola does not have an airborne vector of transmission otherwise there would be orders of magnitude more infected persons.

Then it would be like flu and be a disease that would wipe a significant fraction of the earths population of humans out.

So it appears that casual family contact isn't an issue, but intimate medical contact is. Just what you have been being told. Now get over your hysterical scare.

Then what is the mode of transmission in West Africa?

I don't think they have intimate medical contact there as we know it. It spreaded between ordinary people in common villages.

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It appears we are guessing.

Hope The Doctor's aren't. But, I don't believe they 'know' everything regarding the mode's of transmission.

+1 Thank God we'll have an update soon:)

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If only more attention and resources had been allocated, when this outbreak was first detected in Africa, many lives and much weeping and gnashing of teeth could have been spared.

I spoke with a doctor who came back from one of those areas many months ago. She was supposed to go back but after the outbreak her hospital denied her permission to go. The problem over there, like here, is the politicians. Instead of spending money on trying to help their population, most of it is spend on maintaining their hold of their positions. In their cases, they spend a majority on buying guns and soldiers to prevent coups. Electricity is far and few, majority of the time it isn't on. They handwash all their clothes and linens, including gowns and hang them out to dry. Family members do this, not the hospital staff. Family members also prepare meals for the patients. Their "hospitals" are nothing more than what we would call shacks in some cases. There is not hand sanitations, gloves are dreams. I'm talking about regular hospitals. The ebola places have international support and supplies and protective gear. But they get over loaded and have to turn people away, then they show up at smaller facilities that aren't able to take as good as care as those Ebola specific places. This doc was telling me how they were sending nothing but gloves and liquid hand sanitizers in huge quantities, trouble is..Most of it gets stolen and sold on the black market. There are whole streets devoted to that. If you have the $$ you can buy anything you need.. But you first have to have $$ and sending money to those countries only lines the politicians pockets.

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I don't think they have intimate medical contact there as we know it.

I think you are unfamiliar with burial practices there.

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I think it is all due to the fickle finger of fate regarding who gets infected and who doesn't, among those who had direct contact.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Some good news!

Ebola crisis: Spanish nurse tests negative for virus

The Spanish nurse who became the first person to contract Ebola outside West Africa has now tested negative for the virus, the Spanish government says,

The result suggests Teresa Romero, 44, is no longer infected - although a second test is required before she can be declared free of Ebola.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29683616

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C.E.O. of Texas Hospital Group Apologizes for Mistakes in Ebola Cases

DALLAS — The head of the group that runs the Texas hospital under scrutiny for mishandling Ebola cases apologized Sunday in full-page ads in local Dallas newspapers, saying the hospital “made mistakes in handling this very difficult challenge.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/us/ceo-of-texas-hospital-group-at-center-of-ebola-scare-apologizes-for-mistakes.html?_r=0

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Report only. Can't confirm.

Nina Pham Boyfriend Isolated as Her Condition Downgraded, Say Reports

Nina Pham, the Dallas nurse to contracted Ebola this week, may have spread the virus to her boyfriend, according to reports.

Got News reported that it got information from two separate Alcon employees. It reported on an email that was sent out to Alcon employees, which said her boyfriend was admitted to the hospital with “Ebola-like symptoms” and “he’s now in quarantine.” The website posted an update from Alcon CEO Jeff George’s email.

It, however, did not totally confirm if he got the virus.

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1027381-nina-pham-boyfriend-isolated-as-her-condition-downgraded-reports-say/

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I just read that the gov't. is going to turn over the whole process of
detection/decontamination/training to the US Army. It's about time --
someone, obviously, got Pres. Obama's ear.

During the first year in the army, I was stationed at the US Army Chemical
Corps School (actually, CBR, and, later, changed to ABC -- atomic, biological,
and radiological), at Ft. McClellan, Alabama. Although my section was commo.,
we provided support to the school. We were obliged to go through it, as well.

They didn't take any chances, as they handled nerve gas (Sarin), phosgene,
et.al. Full, rubberized suits, with face masks, were worn by the "faculty".
Rooms, in separate buildings, were operated at below atmospheric pressure,
in order to prevent any accidental leakage of contaminants.

As an aside, Ft. McClellan has been disbanded, and elements relocated throughout the USA.

As I see it, now, hospitals should be taken out of the loop, in detecting,
quarantining, and treatment, of those suspected/determined to possess Ebola.
That would be the job of the Army professionals (After all, they are in charge
of Chem./Bio./Atomic warfare defense.). And, those centers should be located
away from major population centers.

Tough love, but it may be necessary.

The above process could well apply to all countries (with their own specialists).

Again, it's good to read that personnel dealing with contaminated material/people are wearing protective gear that completely covers themselves.
Why take chances?

I wish the administration, and the US Army, success. And, hopefully,
success, to the research centers, who are working to come up with a vaccine
that will protect against it.

Could it be that some people are more susceptible to the ebola virus than others?

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I just read that the gov't. is going to turn over the whole process of
detection/decontamination/training to the US Army. It's about time --
someone, obviously, got Pres. Obama's ear.

During the first year in the army, I was stationed at the US Army Chemical
Corps School (actually, CBR, and, later, changed to ABC -- atomic, biological,
and radiological), at Ft. McClellan, Alabama. Although my section was commo.,
we provided support to the school. We were obliged to go through it, as well.

They didn't take any chances, as they handled nerve gas (Sarin), phosgene,
et.al. Full, rubberized suits, with face masks, were worn by the "faculty".
Rooms, in separate buildings, were operated at below atmospheric pressure,
in order to prevent any accidental leakage of contaminants.

As an aside, Ft. McClellan has been disbanded, and elements relocated throughout the USA.

As I see it, now, hospitals should be taken out of the loop, in detecting,
quarantining, and treatment, of those suspected/determined to possess Ebola.
That would be the job of the Army professionals (After all, they are in charge
of Chem./Bio./Atomic warfare defense.). And, those centers should be located
away from major population centers.

Tough love, but it may be necessary.

The above process could well apply to all countries (with their own specialists).

Again, it's good to read that personnel dealing with contaminated material/people are wearing protective gear that completely covers themselves.
Why take chances?

I wish the administration, and the US Army, success. And, hopefully,
success, to the research centers, who are working to come up with a vaccine
that will protect against it.

It's the most sensible thing I have heard coming from Washington to date and basically the same as what I proposed earlier about opening up some up to date versions of Ellis Island in remote locations.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

The army can order it's doctors and nurses to stay on base, preventing whimsical excursions across the country by medical personnel after having contact with an infected person. They are probably much better trained to follow ALL protocols ALL the time.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.