Agreed... lets hope not.

We like to believe that, here in the developed West, we have the BEST in medical care. But, the Dallas case and the Madrid case do NOT inspire confidence. Especially the one mistake they both have in common... both patients were refused admission at a hospital upon initial presentation and sent home with some useless prescription (antibiotics in the Dallas case, and 'Tylenol' in the Madrid case), despite giving a history which should have triggered Ebola alarm bells in their physician's minds.

So you will be pitching a bitch to the Medical Board about that doctor's license, that it should be revoked? How allowing him to continue to practice is a danger to the public health and safety? Really, didn't they only a week earlier have a class on Ebola? Was he asleep? Is he a quack? Then you can pitch a bitch to your legislators that the Board isn't being proactive and finding quacks before they cause damage. Make them have some embarrassing hearings and ask the hard questions and put them in the frying pan.

<ed>PS Had to sign this at work.

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I honestly don't think that we know when the patient is sick with ebola, when he/she is contagious nor how long the virus lives and whether or not is transmitted in an airborne fashion.

Now it's airborne in the form of particles released by sneezing our coughing, let's hope it stays that way.

Found a BBC article of 2012 on that concern, very disturbing:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

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I honestly don't think that we know when the patient is sick with ebola, when he/she is contagious nor how long the virus lives and whether or not is transmitted in an airborne fashion.

Now it's airborne in the form of particles released by sneezing our coughing, let's hope it stays that way.

Found a BBC article of 2012 on that concern, very disturbing:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20341423

Yes, it is.

That BBC article prominently mentioned a 2012 research study from Canada.

I mentioned that study in a post on Sept. 16th in this thread:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75314&postid=1572654

I recommend reading that study. Here is a link:
http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00811/full/srep00811.html

We like to believe that, here in the developed West, we have the BEST in medical care. But, the Dallas case and the Madrid case do NOT inspire confidence. Especially the one mistake they both have in common... both patients were refused admission at a hospital upon initial presentation and sent home with some useless prescription (antibiotics in the Dallas case, and 'Tylenol' in the Madrid case), despite giving a history which should have triggered Ebola alarm bells in their physician's minds.

So you will be pitching a bitch to the Medical Board about that doctor's license, that it should be revoked? How allowing him to continue to practice is a danger to the public health and safety? Really, didn't they only a week earlier have a class on Ebola? Was he asleep? Is he a quack? Then you can pitch a bitch to your legislators that the Board isn't being proactive and finding quacks before they cause damage. Make them have some embarrassing hearings and ask the hard questions and put them in the frying pan.

<ed>PS Had to sign this at work.

I don't have standing in that case.

But Mr. Duncan's family does... I am sure that their lawyer will go after them.

Bold Statement.

Ebola Could Be 'World's Next AIDS,' CDC Director Warns

Ebola is spreading with such speed that it could become a global pandemic to rival AIDS if action isn't taken now, one of the U.S.'s top health officials has warned.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-worlds-aids-cdc-director-warns/story?id=26071855

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Updates.

Ebola: Spanish nurse Teresa Romero 'worsens'

The health of a Spanish nurse who became the first person to contract Ebola outside of West Africa has worsened, a hospital official said on Thursday.

Teresa Romero's brother said her health had deteriorated and she was now being helped with her breathing in hospital.

Meanwhile, two doctors who treated her have been admitted for observation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29548001

Sad News :(

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Dallas Deputy Does Not Have Ebola, Tests Confirm

The deputy sheriff in Dallas who visited Thomas Eric Duncan's apartment does not have Ebola, tests confirmed today.

Deputy Sheriff Michael West Monnig sought medical attention Wednesday because he did not feel well more than a week after going into the apartment where Duncan had been staying with relatives when he was showing symptoms. Monnig was part of a team that delivered an order quarantining the other residents of the apartment.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/dallas-deputy-ebola-tests-confirm/story?id=26082627

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UK Ebola screening for arrivals from affected areas

People arriving in the UK from areas hit by Ebola face "enhanced screening" for the virus at Heathrow, Gatwick and Eurostar terminals.

Downing Street said passengers would be asked questions and potentially given a medical assessment.

It comes as Whitehall sources say it is "very unlikely" a British man who died in Macedonia on Thursday could have contracted the disease.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29559444

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Bold Statement.

Ebola Could Be 'World's Next AIDS,' CDC Director Warns

Ebola is spreading with such speed that it could become a global pandemic to rival AIDS if action isn't taken now, one of the U.S.'s top health officials has warned.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-worlds-aids-cdc-director-warns/story?id=26071855

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75314&postid=1581305
Gary wrote:

Am I the only one who is having flashbacks to what was first said about AIDS and with the same attitude?

I know I am and that bothers me no end. A disease that is at present affecting a segment of society that many have a phobia of to begin with, with calls to restrict that segment and violate their civil rights on some over hyped imaginary fear that group will somehow cause a catastrophe if they aren't locked up. Is "xenophobia" the word I'm looking for, or something stronger?

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Aids was never as bad as this Gary you had to share a needle , blood transfusion or have sex with a infected person . Just touching someone or being in a room when the person coughed or sneezed did not mean you could catch it , how ever this thing can .

Maybe if government would stop playing silly buggers and actually get going on this the panic won't take over and we might just be able to stop it in it's tracks but until that happens we are all going to be at risk.

Not even the Spanish flu was this deadly and how many millions died . It had a death rate of only 20% i believe not 60% +
And Aids took a few years to kill the person and you did not actually of AIDS . All AIDS did is stop your body from fighting normal disease and you die from them not actually AIDS

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It has been 38 years since the ebola virus was identified. I am sure the CDC and WHO have been conducting research into finding a cure and a vaccine the whole time since then. That makes me doubt that either will be developed anytime soon. So , the only way we have now to stop it is to get ahead of the spread and contain it. Best to do it in Africa and not after it has made it to europe, asia or the americas.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I don't think that it can be stopped in Africa. The best we can hope for is to contain it to Africa. I think that this will be more apparent as other countries' resources will be exhausted by containing their own outbreaks from people coming in from the affected areas of Africa.

Let's hope I am wrong. We need a cure and a vaccine to stop it--I don't see that happening in the near term. Maybe president Obola can pull a rabbit out of the hat that is the Center for Disease Control.

Aids was never as bad as this Gary you had to share a needle , blood transfusion or have sex with a infected person . Just touching someone or being in a room when the person coughed or sneezed did not mean you could catch it , how ever this thing can .

Exactly my thoughts too, it's much worse than aids or hepatitis!!

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Aids was never as bad as this Gary you had to share a needle , blood transfusion or have sex with a infected person . Just touching someone or being in a room when the person coughed or sneezed did not mean you could catch it , how ever this thing can .

Maybe if government would stop playing silly buggers and actually get going on this the panic won't take over and we might just be able to stop it in it's tracks but until that happens we are all going to be at risk.

Not even the Spanish flu was this deadly and how many millions died . It had a death rate of only 20% i believe not 60% +
And Aids took a few years to kill the person and you did not actually of AIDS . All AIDS did is stop your body from fighting normal disease and you die from them not actually AIDS

I agree AIDS is bad. But it took years for you to die. Ebola could take 21 days to show symptons. Then depending on which strain you have. Its 60% to 90% fatality rate.
Does anyone know what the black death fatality rate was?
And they didnt have airplanes flying all over the world back then. And Bubonic plaque is stil with us.
Xenophobic my ass. We know where it comes from but yet we still let folks fly where ever they want to go, With out a 21 day quarintine? Thats assinine and asking for it to spread. As for taking temps at airports, Thats some idiots idea of a feel good thing that wont work. Placate us fools who fall for it.
I want results on ridding the world of ebola not feel good BS.

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James i think using the Bubonic plaque is a bit unfair to use as a comparison thou .
They didn't have antibiotics or even understand medicine that much back then .

But like you i do wish the polly's would get off there bums and start taking it a lot more serious .

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James i think using the Bubonic plaque is a bit unfair to use as a comparison thou .
They didn't have antibiotics or even understand medicine that much back then .

But like you i do wish the polly's would get off there bums and start taking it a lot more serious .

Well they dont have anything to cure Ebola yet. So I guess it comes down to the same thing. Survival of the fitest. If you live you pass along that trait to your progeny.
It was the same with smallpox. If you lived you had the scares to prove it. And what was that death rate.

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Yeh fair enough James didn't think of it that way .

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It has been 38 years since the ebola virus was identified. I am sure the CDC and WHO have been conducting research into finding a cure and a vaccine the whole time since then. That makes me doubt that either will be developed anytime soon. So , the only way we have now to stop it is to get ahead of the spread and contain it. Best to do it in Africa and not after it has made it to europe, asia or the americas.

In fact, vaccines against Ebola have been in devlopment for many years. Ebola itself is highly antigeneic (unlike HIV), indicating that succesful vaccine development will be straight forward. What has been lacking is research funds to proceed with this. The tiny number of ebola cases over the last 30 years means there was no money for development from big pharma. US research has not been directed toward Ebola due to lack of need (few cases) and relevanc (absence from US).
BEGIN RANT: In addition. money for biomedical research in the US has been stagnant since around 2008, with no increase (even for inflation). The overall NIH budget is 25% below the level of 2008. Labs are closing, important health issues are not being addressed. We just received notice from NIH that our budget (like all NIH funded research) is being cut 10% effective immediately. This is the result of yet another continuing resolution passed by congress, who can't ever get their act together to decide anything. If you are concerned about Ebola, than get in touch with the politicans who are slowly destroying biomedical research in the US before its too late. END RANT.

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Fatality for original black death in 13th/14th century was estimated at around 50%. Current fatality rate close to zero since antibiotics effectively deal with it.

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