I don't understand why they can't just keep the dog isolated for three or four weeks and then test it.

I am also concerned that they find out which if any protocols the nurse violated to get herself infected. If she didn't violate any protocols then it seems the disease has mutated and now has a new way to spread.

They have been studying this family of viruses for 38 years now and still there is no known cure or way to prevent it's spread. I suspect there won't be any immediate breakthrough now.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EBOLA_AMERICAN_PATIENTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-08-11-21-36

DALLAS (AP) -- The first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States died Wednesday morning in a Dallas hospital, according to a hospital spokesman.

Thomas Eric Duncan was pronounced dead at 7:51 a.m. at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas, where he was admitted Sept. 28 and has been kept in isolation, according to spokesman Wendell Watson.
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He died...

[edit] Heard it on the radio earlier...

I still think this virus can be conquered albeit a good cooperation between nations is necessary!

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Yep. Lawsuits. Yep. Another Family with A US Big Bag O' Money.

Come To Da U S A and Get Money Money Money.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Money is always the biggest issue indeed these days, indeed, just until we huwomans will realize money isn't edible...

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#2?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/second-texas-ebola-frisco-patient_n_5954454.html

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#2?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/second-texas-ebola-frisco-patient_n_5954454.html

In my opinion, the odds are very low that Monnig has it, but we can't be too careful at this point.


Only entering the apartment to have the quarantine order signed... The people in the apartment were symptom free at the time...

Unless Monnig happened to come into contact with some of the... biohazard material that had yet to be cleaned up in that apartment, he should be ok...

Should... unless the virus has... changed enough to behave in ways different that the experts say... which is possible.

#2?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/second-texas-ebola-frisco-patient_n_5954454.html

Maybe??

R.I.P. Mr. Duncan
R.I.P. Excalibur

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New layer of U.S. airport screening planned to guard against Ebola

(CNN) -- Five of America's biggest, busiest airports will soon implement new steps to guard against Ebola, requiring travelers arriving from the hardest-hit West African nations to go through an additional layer of screening aimed at detecting anyone who might have the deadly virus.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced the enhanced Ebola-protection policy Wednesday, affecting those travelers coming into the United States from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone -- countries where the vast majority of current Ebola cases are.

According to the CDC, more than 94% of the travelers from those countries enter the United States through five airports: New York's John F. Kennedy, Washington-Dulles outside the nation's capital, Newark in northern New Jersey, O'Hare in Chicago and Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/08/health/ebola-us-airport-screening/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Too many blunders in Texas.

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I think it is possible that people who live in the impacted regions have the belief that nations of the EU and the USA have a cure on hand but that we are unwilling to share it. Maybe the desire to get out will be reduced when the news that people like Mr. Duncan and the two Spanish priests died anyway.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

#2?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/08/second-texas-ebola-frisco-patient_n_5954454.html

In my opinion, the odds are very low that Monnig has it, but we can't be too careful at this point.


Only entering the apartment to have the quarantine order signed... The people in the apartment were symptom free at the time...

Unless Monnig happened to come into contact with some of the... biohazard material that had yet to be cleaned up in that apartment, he should be ok...

Should... unless the virus has... changed enough to behave in ways different that the experts say... which is possible.

Just to hazard a guess, Just by enetering that apartment he was at risk. Just think of the things you touch everyday.
Doorknobs, Table tops, Counter tops, Chairs, Pens, You get the idea. Who knows what he even walked through. Or what his clothing brushed up against. Even if he had no direct contact with anyone.He still could have picked up the virus by taking his shoes and or clothes off at the end of his work day.
Thats why I asked how long does ebola live with out a host. They did treat all the linen he slept in with the utmost care. So Im thinking it has a long shelf life.
They really need to study these things.

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Let's just hope that President Obola, by not securing our borders and Airports from whomever wants to come right on in, doesn't get us all killed.

There are 168 Airports that are international in the United States.

What should be done is to allow entry into the US from perhaps 5 ports of entry around the world. Our doctors should be at these foreign airports. They should fly in to a similar number of Airports here where everyone is checked again.

Right now, massive epidemics are just a plane ride away.

There are 168 Airports that are international in the United States.

What should be done is to allow entry into the US from perhaps 5 ports of entry around the world. Our doctors should be at these foreign airports. They should fly in to a similar number of Airports here where everyone is checked again.

Right now, massive epidemics are just a plane ride away.

A quick comment. The Texas patient flew to brussels, then on to dallas. He sat on a plane with hundreds of people for at least 15 hours. He waited in the departure lounge at 2 airports with hundreds of other passengers. Despite all that potential for transmission, no one else was infected. Ebola is not infectious until the person displays symptoms. Massive epidemics are not a plane ride away.
And checking peoples temperature as they arrive is really just a feel good exercise. Those with active ebola will be too sick to travel, those infected but presymtomatic will have normal temperatures. Lots of people with colds and flu are going to be identified. We should be employing resources at current active sites in west africa, not here in the US.

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The Texas patient flew to brussels, then on to dallas. He sat on a plane with hundreds of people for at least 15 hours. He waited in the departure lounge at 2 airports with hundreds of other passengers. Despite all that potential for transmission, no one else was infected.

Proves again that the virus isn't airborne yet.

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The Texas patient flew to brussels, then on to dallas. He sat on a plane with hundreds of people for at least 15 hours. He waited in the departure lounge at 2 airports with hundreds of other passengers. Despite all that potential for transmission, no one else was infected.

Proves again that the virus isn't airborne yet.

@Julie,
It is still a couple of days early to state that conclusively.

@Brendan,
You forget the Airport in Washington, iirc Dulles.
Liberia -> Brussels -> Washington Dulles -> Dallas

Agree, to a point.

This is not only a Scientific/Medical problem. The need to defuse the rising Panic and Hysteria in The US, MUST be addressed.

I agree. But making the risk appear more serious than it is (i.e. checking passengers at airports, continuously reporting potential cases which turn out to be wrong) adds to the perceived "rising panic and hysteria". Actually, I haven't met anyone yet who is exhibitng either hysteria or panic in the US yet.

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The Texas patient flew to brussels, then on to dallas. He sat on a plane with hundreds of people for at least 15 hours. He waited in the departure lounge at 2 airports with hundreds of other passengers. Despite all that potential for transmission, no one else was infected.

Proves again that the virus isn't airborne yet.

@Julie,
It is still a couple of days early to state that conclusively.

@Brendan,
You forget the Airport in Washington, iirc Dulles.
Liberia -> Brussels -> Washington Dulles -> Dallas

Thanks for the correction. Also, with Ebola incubation period up to 21 days, there is still a small possibility that people he came in contact with during his journey may become symptomatic. Lets hope not...

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There are 168 Airports that are international in the United States.

What should be done is to allow entry into the US from perhaps 5 ports of entry around the world. Our doctors should be at these foreign airports. They should fly in to a similar number of Airports here where everyone is checked again.

Right now, massive epidemics are just a plane ride away.

A quick comment. The Texas patient flew to brussels, then on to dallas. He sat on a plane with hundreds of people for at least 15 hours. He waited in the departure lounge at 2 airports with hundreds of other passengers. Despite all that potential for transmission, no one else was infected. Ebola is not infectious until the person displays symptoms. Massive epidemics are not a plane ride away.
And checking peoples temperature as they arrive is really just a feel good exercise. Those with active ebola will be too sick to travel, those infected but presymtomatic will have normal temperatures. Lots of people with colds and flu are going to be identified. We should be employing resources at current active sites in west africa, not here in the US.

Agree, to a point.

This is not only a Scientific/Medical problem. The need to defuse the rising Panic and Hysteria in The US, MUST be addressed.

Not only in the US, CLYDE... There are concerns in Spain too...

We NEED stronger measures taken. Something other than a fookin questionnaire and a temperature check. Mr. Duncan from Liberia passed those without problem, and look what happened.

I agree we need to help West Africa deal with the situation. BUT... If we get an outbreak going on in the USA, our aid to West Africa will dry up as we will have to deal with it HERE.

I am not sure how long after Ebola infection it takes for the current tests to pick it up.

Perhaps a 3 week quarantine on those that have been in a nation with an active Ebola case in the last 3 weeks might be a tad long... What about a 1 week quarantine followed by 2 negative tests done on different days?

I am sensitive to the terrible plight of those 3 West African Nation's people. They even have acute shortages of many basic supplies to combat the disease... Soap... Gloves and other protective equipment... The list goes on and on.

We MUST do something to help them! BUT, we won't be able to help them if it gets established here.

We like to believe that, here in the developed West, we have the BEST in medical care. But, the Dallas case and the Madrid case do NOT inspire confidence. Especially the one mistake they both have in common... both patients were refused admission at a hospital upon initial presentation and sent home with some useless prescription (antibiotics in the Dallas case, and 'Tylenol' in the Madrid case), despite giving a history which should have triggered Ebola alarm bells in their physician's minds.

I honestly don't think that we know when the patient is sick with ebola, when he/she is contagious nor how long the virus lives and whether or not is transmitted in an airborne fashion.