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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Thomas Eric Duncan, the Ebola patient in Dallas, starts getting experimental treatment Interesting approach. Maybe has some promise. Good to see the USA finally trying this approach. I noticed, back on the 29th, a news story about a Doctor in Liberia trying a similar approach with seemingly good results. http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/ Doctor treats Ebola with HIV drug in Liberia -- seemingly successfully Both of these approaches, and a great many others, need to be tried, imo, in the absence of a reliable supply of something more specific to Ebola (zmaxx, etc.) Yes, I know there are ethical considerations over experimentation on humans, but since Ebola has such a high death rate the possibility of actually helping some to survive it, imo, outweighs them. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html?google_editors_picks=true From Gary's Link: Thanks Gary. 1976 Ebola Outbreak's Lesson: Behaviors Must Change Scientists involved in fighting the first outbreak of Ebola in 1976 are pointing to a crucial difference between that outbreak and the current one in West Africa: the behavior changes among the affected communities. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html?google_editors_picks=true I read the link. Why back in 76 people changed behaviour but are resisting to do so know. Is it lack of comminuication between governmenet and the people. Or they just dont trust the information. [/quote] Old James |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Spanish nurse first to contract Ebola outside West Africa Hysteria is accruing here now too because of the above... rOZZ Music Pictures |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
That is a very good question Clyde , it does not sound good . I hope it's not going air bourne as she only went into his room twice acording to the acrticale unless she all ready had it after treating the first priest |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Ebola outbreak: Spread of deadly disease across Europe is 'unavoidable', warns WHO chief The spread of Ebola across Europe is "quite unavoidable", the World Health Organisation has warned as four people were in hospital after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the virus outside Africa. Meanwhile, a Norwegian doctor infected with Ebola while working in Sierra Leone has arrived in Norway for treatment. Officials said she was in an isolation ward at Oslo University Hospital. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ebola-outbreak-husband-of-spanish-nurse-placed-in-quarantine-as-22-contacts-identified-9779682.html |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
A vexing mystery in Spain: How did a nurse contract Ebola? She went on vacation, so how did she contract Ebola? Spain Ebola nurse: Relatives and hospital staff monitored Doctors in Madrid have been testing three people for Ebola after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the deadly virus outside West Africa. Some 52 others are being monitored, health officials say. The nurse, identified in media reports as Teresa Romero, had treated two Spanish missionaries who died of Ebola after being repatriated. Some 3,400 people have died in the current outbreak. Most of the deaths have been in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has warned of the dire consequences for the economies in the region if the virus continues to spread. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29529793 |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
it goes through the saliva now Glenn, it's not airborne. Don't be too sure, Julie... http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1 Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed As to your earlier statement in another post: One thing I strongly believe is Ebola is easily contained with a modern health care system such as the US or other industrialized countries possess. Well... By and large you and many others have justification for this belief... But, by the same token... Surely you can see that all the F.U.B.A.R. in Dallas with the the Duncan case, combined with the case of the Spanish Nurse (as an experienced Nurse in dealing with cases such as this, knowing to follow ALL protocols to the letter... combined with her being sick with a Fever for a WEEK *before* she sought treatment at the hospital and was diagnosed with Ebola)... Well, these two cases should begin to punch at least a few small holes in everyone's faith in the system... Either she broke protocols... or it is at least partially airborne... or both. Pucker Factor 9.9 Its time, imo, for everyone to rethink travel restrictions. Maybe not time for an outright ban... But I think that a 3-week quarantine on EVERYONE coming in from at least nations with active cases in the last 3 weeks, no exceptions is a sensable precaution. (note: this quarantine list now INCLUDES the USA and Spain.) |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Like I have said all along a sneeze or a cough. And in tight quarters, Id say you have a tranmission capable delivery system. And do they now how long ebola lives in the open? Say a person is showing symtoms and coughing, sweating, and other wise sheddding the virus all about the enviroment. How long does it live with out a host? And does it go dormant with out a host to be reactivated when it does find a host likes spores do. I really think that the WHO and every other country should devote a lot more research and time on this diasease. And find out how it survives in the wild, what the vectors are and most of all how it gets transmitted. And I firmly belive it will show up in other countrys. [/quote] Old James |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
it goes through the saliva now Glenn, it's not airborne. MajorKong, I agree with you. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Why new airport screening still can’t prevent more Ebola cases in the U.S. Ebola is on the move, with confirmed cases in the United States last week and in Spain this week. “The ability of people who are infected who could carry that across borders is something that we have to take extremely seriously,†President Obama said Monday after meeting with top advisers to discuss the Ebola epidemic. In response, Obama said his administration would increase passenger screenings at airports in the United States and Africa. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/07/why-new-airport-screening-still-cant-prevent-more-ebola-cases-in-the-u-s/ |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
This next story makes me very angry. Ebola Patient's Pet Dog to Be Euthanized as Precaution Spanish health authorities reacted forcefully today after a nurse's aide was found to have contracted Ebola, putting her in an isolation unit, quarantining her husband and two other people, and getting a court order to euthanize her dog. The government said available scientific knowledge suggests a risk that the dog could transmit the virus to humans. I don't agree with Spain. :(((((( Animal rights groups were trying to save the dog. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-patients-pet-dog-euthanized-precaution/story?id=26014974 |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Does anybody know if Dogs and Cats can catch it ? or would be carriers but not get sick ? It would be fear enough if that is the case but other wise that is just cruel . |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Does anybody know if Dogs and Cats can catch it ? or would be carriers but not get sick ? The CDC does not, however, mention pets such as cats in relation to Ebola. They do make note of the fact that non-human primates, bats, and rodents are suspected to be capable of carrying the disease, and contact with blood or secretions from these animals, or the ingestion of infected meat, may lead to transmission of the disease to a person. Bats are the most likely source, according to the CDC, at least in the case of the most recent disease outbreak being experienced in West Africa. However, the actual natural reservoir for the disease does remain unknown at this time. http://www.petmd.com/blogs/thedailyvet/lorieahuston/2014/august/ebola-virus-and-cats-31940 I think it's cruel to put the dog down. :((( |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Yes Lynn i agree it is cruel they should isolate the dog and study what happens , putting it down with no evidence is the wrong way to go . The country's where this is happening must have dog's and putting it down is just silly . They need to know weather for shore if this is one of the ways it is being spread and if so then they need to catch all the dog's wild or domestic and put them down but at least find out first . I guess panic is over riding common sense and if this is how it is going to be we have already lost this fight . |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Yes Lynn i agree it is cruel they should isolate the dog and study what happens , putting it down with no evidence is the wrong way to go . Glenn, I think that there is at least some level of panic in the Spanish Government's 'dog decision'. But, at the same time, there is at least some justification for the concern. At the moment, I can not remember where I read it, but in a search for the natural 'host' for the Ebola Virus in Africa, a number of dogs in previous outbreak areas were tested. Some of the dogs tested did test positive for the Ebola virus and at the same time did NOT appear to be ill. I do not believe it is known if these dogs were survivors or were actively infected at the time. Also, I do not know if these dogs were capable of transmitting the disease. Add to this that I am not sure if Spain has the facilities needed to safely isolate the dog in question. After all, the hospital that the nurse is in appears to only have personal protective equipment that conforms to Biohazard Level 2 standards, and not the Level 4 standards recommended by the CDC. Also, the nurse's husband left the dog home alone with a large supply of food and water when he rushed to the hospital to check on his wife (and found her in isolation and himself in quarantine). To put it bluntly, there is a distinct possibility that neither one of them will ever return home to check on the dog and care for it. I can understand the Spanish Government's decision to put the dog down and cremate the remains, but I do wish that other arrangements could have been made. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thank's Kong as you can tell by my picture i love dogs so i am saddend by what they are doing but can also understand it too . |
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