Thomas Eric Duncan, the Ebola patient in Dallas, starts getting experimental treatment

The first person diagnosed with Ebola on American soil has begun receiving an experimental medication, just as officials announced his condition was worsening.

Thomas Eric Duncan is now being treated with brincidofovir, receiving an investigational medication in late-stage testing for other types of viruses, officials said Monday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-eric-duncan-ebola-patient-in-dallas-getting-experimental-drug-brincidofovir/

Interesting approach. Maybe has some promise. Good to see the USA finally trying this approach.

I noticed, back on the 29th, a news story about a Doctor in Liberia trying a similar approach with seemingly good results.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/

Doctor treats Ebola with HIV drug in Liberia -- seemingly successfully
By Elizabeth Cohen, Senior Medical Correspondent
updated 12:36 PM EDT, Mon September 29, 2014

(CNN) -- A doctor in rural Liberia inundated with Ebola patients says he's had good results with a treatment he tried out of sheer desperation: an HIV drug.

Dr. Gorbee Logan has given the drug, lamivudine, to 15 Ebola patients, and all but two survived. That's about a 13% mortality rate.

Across West Africa, the virus has killed 70% of its victims.

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Both of these approaches, and a great many others, need to be tried, imo, in the absence of a reliable supply of something more specific to Ebola (zmaxx, etc.)

Yes, I know there are ethical considerations over experimentation on humans, but since Ebola has such a high death rate the possibility of actually helping some to survive it, imo, outweighs them.

http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html?google_editors_picks=true

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http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html?google_editors_picks=true

From Gary's Link: Thanks Gary.

1976 Ebola Outbreak's Lesson: Behaviors Must Change

Scientists involved in fighting the first outbreak of Ebola in 1976 are pointing to a crucial difference between that outbreak and the current one in West Africa: the behavior changes among the affected communities.

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http://www.livescience.com/48170-ebola-outbreak-in-1976-revisited.html?google_editors_picks=true

From Gary's Link: Thanks Gary.

1976 Ebola Outbreak's Lesson: Behaviors Must Change

Scientists involved in fighting the first outbreak of Ebola in 1976 are pointing to a crucial difference between that outbreak and the current one in West Africa: the behavior changes among the affected communities.

I read the link. Why back in 76 people changed behaviour but are resisting to do so know. Is it lack of comminuication between governmenet and the people. Or they just dont trust the information.

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Spanish nurse first to contract Ebola outside West Africa

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/06/us-spain-ebola-idUSKCN0HV1MC20141006

MADRID (Reuters) - A Spanish nurse who last month treated a priest in Madrid who died of Ebola has tested positive for the disease, becoming the first to contract it outside West Africa, a source within the health authorities said on Monday.

The nurse treated elderly priest Manuel Garcia Viejo at the Madrid hospital Carlos III when he was repatriated from Sierra Leone with the disease.

Garcia Viejo died days later, the second Spanish priest to die after being repatriated from Africa with the disease.

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That is a very good question Clyde , it does not sound good . I hope it's not going air bourne as she only went into his room twice acording to the acrticale unless she all ready had it after treating the first priest

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Ebola outbreak: Spread of deadly disease across Europe is 'unavoidable', warns WHO chief

The spread of Ebola across Europe is "quite unavoidable", the World Health Organisation has warned as four people were in hospital after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the virus outside Africa.

Meanwhile, a Norwegian doctor infected with Ebola while working in Sierra Leone has arrived in Norway for treatment. Officials said she was in an isolation ward at Oslo University Hospital.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ebola-outbreak-husband-of-spanish-nurse-placed-in-quarantine-as-22-contacts-identified-9779682.html

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A vexing mystery in Spain: How did a nurse contract Ebola?

She went on vacation, so how did she contract Ebola?


Spain Ebola nurse: Relatives and hospital staff monitored

Doctors in Madrid have been testing three people for Ebola after a Spanish nurse became the first person known to have contracted the deadly virus outside West Africa.

Some 52 others are being monitored, health officials say.

The nurse, identified in media reports as Teresa Romero, had treated two Spanish missionaries who died of Ebola after being repatriated.

Some 3,400 people have died in the current outbreak.

Most of the deaths have been in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has warned of the dire consequences for the economies in the region if the virus continues to spread.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29529793

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it goes through the saliva now Glenn, it's not airborne.

Don't be too sure, Julie...


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed
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Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.


Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government's massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. "Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here."
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As to your earlier statement in another post:

One thing I strongly believe is Ebola is easily contained with a modern health care system such as the US or other industrialized countries possess.

Well...

By and large you and many others have justification for this belief...

But, by the same token... Surely you can see that all the F.U.B.A.R. in Dallas with the the Duncan case, combined with the case of the Spanish Nurse (as an experienced Nurse in dealing with cases such as this, knowing to follow ALL protocols to the letter... combined with her being sick with a Fever for a WEEK *before* she sought treatment at the hospital and was diagnosed with Ebola)...

Well, these two cases should begin to punch at least a few small holes in everyone's faith in the system...

Either she broke protocols... or it is at least partially airborne... or both.

Pucker Factor 9.9

Its time, imo, for everyone to rethink travel restrictions. Maybe not time for an outright ban... But I think that a 3-week quarantine on EVERYONE coming in from at least nations with active cases in the last 3 weeks, no exceptions is a sensable precaution. (note: this quarantine list now INCLUDES the USA and Spain.)

Like I have said all along a sneeze or a cough. And in tight quarters, Id say you have a tranmission capable delivery system. And do they now how long ebola lives in the open? Say a person is showing symtoms and coughing, sweating, and other wise sheddding the virus all about the enviroment. How long does it live with out a host? And does it go dormant with out a host to be reactivated when it does find a host likes spores do.

I really think that the WHO and every other country should devote a lot more research and time on this diasease. And find out how it survives in the wild, what the vectors are and most of all how it gets transmitted.

And I firmly belive it will show up in other countrys.

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it goes through the saliva now Glenn, it's not airborne.

Don't be too sure, Julie...


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed
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Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.


Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army's Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government's massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. "Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here."
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As to your earlier statement in another post:

One thing I strongly believe is Ebola is easily contained with a modern health care system such as the US or other industrialized countries possess.

Well...

By and large you and many others have justification for this belief...

But, by the same token... Surely you can see that all the F.U.B.A.R. in Dallas with the the Duncan case, combined with the case of the Spanish Nurse (as an experienced Nurse in dealing with cases such as this, knowing to follow ALL protocols to the letter... combined with her being sick with a Fever for a WEEK *before* she sought treatment at the hospital and was diagnosed with Ebola)...

Well, these two cases should begin to punch at least a few small holes in everyone's faith in the system...

Either she broke protocols... or it is at least partially airborne... or both.

Pucker Factor 9.9

Its time, imo, for everyone to rethink travel restrictions. Maybe not time for an outright ban... But I think that a 3-week quarantine on EVERYONE coming in from at least nations with active cases in the last 3 weeks, no exceptions is a sensable precaution. (note: this quarantine list now INCLUDES the USA and Spain.)

MajorKong, I agree with you.

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Why new airport screening still can’t prevent more Ebola cases in the U.S.

Ebola is on the move, with confirmed cases in the United States last week and in Spain this week. “The ability of people who are infected who could carry that across borders is something that we have to take extremely seriously,” President Obama said Monday after meeting with top advisers to discuss the Ebola epidemic. In response, Obama said his administration would increase passenger screenings at airports in the United States and Africa.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/10/07/why-new-airport-screening-still-cant-prevent-more-ebola-cases-in-the-u-s/

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This next story makes me very angry.

Ebola Patient's Pet Dog to Be Euthanized as Precaution

Spanish health authorities reacted forcefully today after a nurse's aide was found to have contracted Ebola, putting her in an isolation unit, quarantining her husband and two other people, and getting a court order to euthanize her dog.

The government said available scientific knowledge suggests a risk that the dog could transmit the virus to humans.


I don't agree with Spain. :((((((

Animal rights groups were trying to save the dog.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ebola-patients-pet-dog-euthanized-precaution/story?id=26014974

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Does anybody know if Dogs and Cats can catch it ? or would be carriers but not get sick ?

It would be fear enough if that is the case but other wise that is just cruel .

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Does anybody know if Dogs and Cats can catch it ? or would be carriers but not get sick ?

It would be fear enough if that is the case but other wise that is just cruel .

The CDC does not, however, mention pets such as cats in relation to Ebola. They do make note of the fact that non-human primates, bats, and rodents are suspected to be capable of carrying the disease, and contact with blood or secretions from these animals, or the ingestion of infected meat, may lead to transmission of the disease to a person. Bats are the most likely source, according to the CDC, at least in the case of the most recent disease outbreak being experienced in West Africa. However, the actual natural reservoir for the disease does remain unknown at this time.

http://www.petmd.com/blogs/thedailyvet/lorieahuston/2014/august/ebola-virus-and-cats-31940

I think it's cruel to put the dog down. :(((

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Yes Lynn i agree it is cruel they should isolate the dog and study what happens , putting it down with no evidence is the wrong way to go .

The country's where this is happening must have dog's and putting it down is just silly . They need to know weather for shore if this is one of the ways it is being spread and if so then they need to catch all the dog's wild or domestic and put them down but at least find out first .

I guess panic is over riding common sense and if this is how it is going to be we have already lost this fight .

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Yes Lynn i agree it is cruel they should isolate the dog and study what happens , putting it down with no evidence is the wrong way to go .

The country's where this is happening must have dog's and putting it down is just silly . They need to know weather for shore if this is one of the ways it is being spread and if so then they need to catch all the dog's wild or domestic and put them down but at least find out first .

I guess panic is over riding common sense and if this is how it is going to be we have already lost this fight .

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I think that there is at least some level of panic in the Spanish Government's 'dog decision'. But, at the same time, there is at least some justification for the concern.

At the moment, I can not remember where I read it, but in a search for the natural 'host' for the Ebola Virus in Africa, a number of dogs in previous outbreak areas were tested. Some of the dogs tested did test positive for the Ebola virus and at the same time did NOT appear to be ill. I do not believe it is known if these dogs were survivors or were actively infected at the time. Also, I do not know if these dogs were capable of transmitting the disease.

Add to this that I am not sure if Spain has the facilities needed to safely isolate the dog in question. After all, the hospital that the nurse is in appears to only have personal protective equipment that conforms to Biohazard Level 2 standards, and not the Level 4 standards recommended by the CDC.

Also, the nurse's husband left the dog home alone with a large supply of food and water when he rushed to the hospital to check on his wife (and found her in isolation and himself in quarantine). To put it bluntly, there is a distinct possibility that neither one of them will ever return home to check on the dog and care for it.

I can understand the Spanish Government's decision to put the dog down and cremate the remains, but I do wish that other arrangements could have been made.

Thank's Kong as you can tell by my picture i love dogs so i am saddend by what they are doing but can also understand it too .

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