Neither am I, but I am aware that one slip up & Ebola could become the largest & most deadly pandemic ever to hit mankind.

Regardless of how the "industrialised Countries" are protected with their "excellent" medical services, Man is not perfect.

As it stands, the worst country for it to endure an uncontrolled breakout is America.

All those lovely citizens with their guns, what a scenario!

All one can do is pray at that time

Not good enough! You have the funds to attack IS mercilessly but no funds or courage to attack this disease with the same commitment?

Your fellow citizens are asking for those countries to be quarantined & any outbreaks in the States to be contained.

If it ever reached the point that praying at that time is required, it's too damned late!

So Mote it Be...

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Still scary MK.

I agree scary :(

Wash you hands everyone.

First thing I heard on the radio this morning, they say there's no spreading danger, let's hope so...

No spreading danger until someone hops on board a plane to visit relatives in another country. Oh hang on a minute, that's what happened:

According to Dr Frieden, the unnamed patient left Liberia on 19 September and arrived in the US the next day to visit relatives, without displaying any symptoms of the virus.

I heard on the radio that industrial countries can beat Ebola easily because of the good hygiene in hospitals over here. If let's say, India gets contaminated with it, it would have the same results as in Africa...

I'd take what I hear with a pinch of salt. How many thought this outbreak would be another small and isolated one. In industrialised countries we may have better facilities to deal with it but without containment you get the above. Time will tell if the individual has infected anyone else.

Possible case 2:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/01/texas-ebola-patient/16525649/

Also, several school-kids among those exposed by case 1.

I hope that they are being kept home from school. If it gets to a school, it will spread like wildfire.

His sister (the second possible case), five kids from four different schools, three paramedics who transported him in an ambulance and several hospital staff are all now under observation.

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His sister (the second possible case), five kids from four different schools, three paramedics who transported him in an ambulance and several hospital staff are all now under observation.

Total Flaming Idiocy.

Case #1 TOLD the people at that hospital that he had come to Dallas from Liberia the first time he went there for treatment on the 26th. Combine that with his symptoms. Didn't ANYONE put 2+2 together and go "Hey, wait a minute!". Nope.

They sent him back home.

The hospital staff had just HAD a meeting on the subject of Ebola about 1 week before that.

I wonder how many additional people got exposed because of this mistake.

Whiskey... Tango... Foxtrot...

His sister (the second possible case), five kids from four different schools, three paramedics who transported him in an ambulance and several hospital staff are all now under observation.

Total Flaming Idiocy.

Case #1 TOLD the people at that hospital that he had come to Dallas from Liberia the first time he went there for treatment on the 26th. Combine that with his symptoms. Didn't ANYONE put 2+2 together and go "Hey, wait a minute!". Nope.

They sent him back home.

The hospital staff had just HAD a meeting on the subject of Ebola about 1 week before that.

I wonder how many additional people got exposed because of this mistake.

Whiskey... Tango... Foxtrot...

Whiskey...Whiskey...Tango...Tango...Oscar?

Not good enough! You have the funds to attack IS mercilessly but no funds or courage to attack this disease with the same commitment?

Your fellow citizens are asking for those countries to be quarantined & any outbreaks in the States to be contained.

If it ever reached the point that praying at that time is required, it's too damned late!

I agree with this statement.

Why are we concerned with IS? Oil?
The USA is the world's #1 oil producer. 1st Quarter of 2014, we averaged 11 million barrels a day.

The people in that area have been fighting each other for thousands of years. That isn't going to change any time soon. Unless some other vital National Interest is threatened, we should just LET them. We are going to have to start leaving them alone before we can expect them to leave us alone.

The IS issue has been going on for over 1200 years, since the initial Sunni/Shia schism (over the issue of governance -- secular vs. religious). They NEED to work it out for themselves, but it is gonna be a LONG time happening.

If IS attacks us, THEN we respond. Until then, we REALLY do need to leave them alone.

The Ebola problem is of VITAL importance to the Entire World. We NEED to get a handle on it, ASAP.

What is of greater importance: a disease that could kill off a good chunk of humanity, or a relatively small number of people stuck in the Dark Ages?

And, I agree, 'pray time' is too damned late.

Here is the BIG problem with containment in the USA:

Quote from This Article:

A letter to parents of children at L.L. Hotchkiss Elementary School, 6929 Town North Drive, says in part:

“This morning, we were made aware that one of our students may have had contact with an individual who was recently diagnosed with the Ebola virus. This student is currently not showing any symptoms and is under close observation by the Dallas County Health and Human Services Department. As a precautionary measure, the student has been advised to stay home from school. Since this student is not presenting any symptoms, there is nothing to suggest that the disease was spread to others, including students and staff.”

Whatever happened to mandatory quarantine?

His sister (the second possible case), five kids from four different schools, three paramedics who transported him in an ambulance and several hospital staff are all now under observation.

Total Flaming Idiocy.

Case #1 TOLD the people at that hospital that he had come to Dallas from Liberia the first time he went there for treatment on the 26th. Combine that with his symptoms. Didn't ANYONE put 2+2 together and go "Hey, wait a minute!". Nope.

They sent him back home.

The hospital staff had just HAD a meeting on the subject of Ebola about 1 week before that.

I wonder how many additional people got exposed because of this mistake.

Whiskey... Tango... Foxtrot...

Darwin award?

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Whatever happened to mandatory quarantine?

The need it for D68 which is spreading like wildfire because it is infectious and contagious (airborne transmission) unlike Ebola which is only infectious (close contact).

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This just in..

Miscommunication at hospital led to Dallas Ebola patient's release

The first patient diagnosed in the United States with the Ebola virus has been identified as Thomas Eric Duncan of Liberia.

Duncan, identified by The Associated Press, remained in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas on Wednesday in serious condition.

He was taken to the hospital in critical condition Sunday from a home in the Vickery Meadow neighborhood of northeast Dallas. Duncan had sought treatment at the hospital two days earlier, but was sent home with antibiotics.

During that first visit, his sister told AP, Duncan informed emergency room workers that he was from Liberia, the West African nation hardest hit by Ebola.

“Regretfully that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team,” said Dr. Mark Lester, executive vice president of Texas Health Resources. Lester said the team thought Duncan had a "low-grade common viral disease."

United Airlines says Duncan is believed to have taken United Flight 951 from Brussels to Washington Dulles and Flight 822 from Dulles to D/FW International Airport on Sept. 20.

Duncan, who is in his mid-40s, came in contact with 12 to 18 people after developing symptoms of the deadly disease, health officials said Wednesday during a news conference at Presbyterian.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20140930-miscommunication-at-hospital-led-to-dallas-ebola-patient-s-release.ece

He helped a pregnant woman in Liberia.

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Duncan, identified by The Associated Press, remained in isolation at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas on Wednesday in serious condition.

He was taken to the hospital in critical condition Sunday from a home in the Vickery Meadow neighborhood of northeast Dallas. Duncan had sought treatment at the hospital two days earlier, but was sent home with antibiotics.

During that first visit, his sister told AP, Duncan informed emergency room workers that he was from Liberia, the West African nation hardest hit by Ebola.

“Regretfully that information was not fully communicated throughout the full team,” said Dr. Mark Lester, executive vice president of Texas Health Resources. Lester said the team thought Duncan had a "low-grade common viral disease."

Darwin award!

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I read the article and all I can say is that I would have tried to get everyone this man has been in contact with since leaving Africa under observation. This makes it obvious to me that all commercial flights out of the region should be suspended and private flights highly monitored.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I read the article and all I can say is that I would have tried to get everyone this man has been in contact with since leaving Africa under observation. This makes it obvious to me that all commercial flights out of the region should be suspended and private flights highly monitored.

+1

Reported case in Hawaii??

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I want to know how many places this man went to after he became infectious? I saw the chart on how many people supposedly he had contact with. I think its much much more. Think about how many folks do you see everday? And He had to infect his relatives.
The schools should be closed until further notice. And Dallas should be on lockdown. Nobody leaves untill this is contained.
THE WHO SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN THE INTIAL OUTBREAK in Afirca. But NO lets let folks fly willy nilly where ever they want.

And I say you aint seen nothing yet!

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I'd say that realistically it is impossible to lock down any major US city, or any other big city for that matter. You can suspend air and rail transport but there is no way to close every little road in and out of such a sprawling city.

They are claiming that ebola is not contagious until the symptoms surface but if that is true how did this guy get it to start with? If he was already contagious on the plane out of africa then the cat is out of the bag and the world has a BIG problem. By now the passengers on the three planes he rode in have spread all over the world, not to mention the passengers at the airports.

I hope this time we have been told the truth about the danger but I have my doubts. Maybe it's not time to hit the panic button yet but I would keep it within reach.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Whatever happened to mandatory quarantine?

The need it for D68 which is spreading like wildfire because it is infectious and contagious (airborne transmission) unlike Ebola which is only infectious (close contact).

I agree about the D68 needing quarantine.

And, I see that someone has seen reason, though perhaps a bit late and a bit restricted in scope, and invoked Texas HS§81.083.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/02/texas-orders-family-of-ebola-patient-to-stay-home/

The state of Texas and Dallas County health officials have ordered four close family members of a Dallas Ebola patient to stay home and not have visitors to prevent spreading the deadly disease.

If ignored, a violation could result in criminal charges.

Officials made the announcement on Thursday, saying the order is out of an “abundance of caution”.

“We have tried and true protocols to protect the public and stop the spread of this disease,” said Dr. David Lakey, Texas health commissioner. “This order gives us the ability to monitor the situation in the most meticulous way.”

The family was previously instructed to stay home, but the strict public health control order should ensure compliance, according to health officials.

The orders were hand delivered to the family members on Wednesday.

The orders state that visitors are not allowed at the residence “without approval from the local or state health department until at least Oct. 19.” That date marks the end of the incubation period, in which the family is at risk of having the disease.

The family members must also be available to provide blood samples, agree to any testing by public health officials, and immediately report any symptoms to Dallas County Health and Human Services. The symptoms specifically mentioned include a fever above 100.5 degrees, headache, nausea, diarrhea or abdominal pain.

State law says that health officials are well within their rights to hand down the order.

Texas law allows the state health department and the local health authority to issue control measures to a person who is ill with, has been exposed to, or is the carrier of a communicable disease. (Health and Safety Code §81.083). Control measures by law can include isolation, quarantine and preventive therapy. If a person does not follow these orders, they can be enforced by the courts, and the person can face criminal charges.

If you wish to look up the law, it can be found here:
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/HS/htm/HS.81.htm

I'd say that realistically it is impossible to lock down any major US city, or any other big city for that matter. You can suspend air and rail transport but there is no way to close every little road in and out of such a sprawling city.

They are claiming that ebola is not contagious until the symptoms surface but if that is true how did this guy get it to start with? If he was already contagious on the plane out of africa then the cat is out of the bag and the world has a BIG problem. By now the passengers on the three planes he rode in have spread all over the world, not to mention the passengers at the airports.

I hope this time we have been told the truth about the danger but I have my doubts. Maybe it's not time to hit the panic button yet but I would keep it within reach.

Back in Liberia he helped take a woman to the hospital, after admission was refused (because of lack of space) he carried her home where she later died. He was checked for ebola symptoms before boarding the aircraft, and as non were present he was allowed aboard.

[edit]Source on how he got it[/edit]

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Nephew alerted CDC.

Cleaning company hired to sanitize Dallas apartment where Ebola patient stayed

Texas health officials are hiring a cleaning company to sanitize the northeast Dallas apartment where an Ebola patient was living until he was hospitalized Sunday.

Five children and an unknown number of adults continue to live in the unit at The Ivy Apartments in northeast Dallas. They are being monitored for possible Ebola symptoms and were ordered Wednesday night by state officals to remain at home and not have visitors.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20141002-cleaning-company-hired-to-sanitize-dallas-apartment-where-ebola-patient-stayed.ece

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Bureaucrats must have their pound of flesh...

Liberia to prosecute Mr Duncan

Bureaucrats must have their pound of flesh...

Liberia to prosecute Mr Duncan

On another bureaucrat thought, who is paying for his care? How about the cost of care for all those he exposed? Should Texas and the USA bill Liberia?

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The 'contact' list is now up to 80+, per the New York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html

Also in that article they are having... problems... finding someone to clean up that apartment. No one wants to do it.

Even as the authorities were reaching out to at least 80 people who may have had contact — either directly or indirectly — with the patient, Thomas E. Duncan, while he was contagious, they were scrambling to find medical workers to safely clean the apartment.

and

The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that health workers should have moved more swiftly to clean the apartment but that they had had trouble finding an outside medical team to do the work. They encountered “a little bit of hesitancy,” he said.

“We are arranging for that apartment to be cleaned,” he said. “The house conditions need to be improved.”

Understandable.