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Message 1554358 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 19:59:33 UTC

I see this has gone to a global emergency alert.

What a world.
May God take care of the people in Africa.
I hope this is quashed very soon. Otherwise we are all in big trouble.

Reminds me of the Pale Horse.....

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Message 1554416 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 22:38:00 UTC - in response to Message 1554358.  

Liberians Protest, Demand Government Pick Up

Riot police raced to quell a demonstration blocking Liberia's busiest highway Saturday as an angry crowd protested the government's delays in collecting the bodies of Ebola victims. The growing unease in Liberia, where nearly 300 people have died from the gruesome disease, raises the specter of social unrest.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/liberians-protest-demand-government-pick-ebola-bodies-n176916

Very Sad :(
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Message 1554495 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 4:46:42 UTC

Then the WHO should clamp down and quarantine those countrys. No one in and no one out. And the ignorant should be rapidly educated on what not to do if they suspect a loved one is infected.
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Message 1554504 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 5:18:21 UTC - in response to Message 1554499.  

Then the WHO should clamp down and quarantine those countrys. No one in and no one out. And the ignorant should be rapidly educated on what not to do if they suspect a loved one is infected.

You rely too much on 'Education'.

Doubt it can overcome serious religious and cultural beliefs.

I am well aware of how the ignorant behave in a crisis. But they better start now. Or they will all die.
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Message 1554508 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 5:47:36 UTC - in response to Message 1554504.  

Then the WHO should clamp down and quarantine those countrys. No one in and no one out. And the ignorant should be rapidly educated on what not to do if they suspect a loved one is infected.

You rely too much on 'Education'.

Doubt it can overcome serious religious and cultural beliefs.

I am well aware of how the ignorant behave in a crisis. But they better start now. Or they will all die.

Just like the CIA polio vaccinations!
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Message 1554526 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 7:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 1554508.  

Then the WHO should clamp down and quarantine those countrys. No one in and no one out. And the ignorant should be rapidly educated on what not to do if they suspect a loved one is infected.

You rely too much on 'Education'.

Doubt it can overcome serious religious and cultural beliefs.

I am well aware of how the ignorant behave in a crisis. But they better start now. Or they will all die.

Just like the CIA polio vaccinations!

And maybe ignorant ( our own ) governments should stay out of an impending medical disasters!
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Message 1554827 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 1:33:00 UTC

you only have to look back to the Swine flu or Spanish flu or days of the Black plague

To see what happens when people start to panic no education will help those without cool heads in a crisis religion and customs won't matter when the panic sets in
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Message 1554846 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 2:04:38 UTC - in response to Message 1554827.  

you only have to look back to the Swine flu or Spanish flu or days of the Black plague

To see what happens when people start to panic no education will help those without cool heads in a crisis religion and customs won't matter when the panic sets in


I think you're right. Did see a report this morning on Aljazeera on the problem of trying to stop people eating what they call "bushmeat". Often the same species that are suspected of being affected by it or carriers of it. Hunters were very upset to find their livelihood had been decimated by health advice not to eat it. For some it's their only means of providing for their families and for others, it's their main and/or only affordable source of protein. Really difficult problem to solve this one :(
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Message 1555305 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 21:49:43 UTC

Ebola death rate

Looks like one's survival depends on the country they are in.
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Message 1555313 - Posted: 11 Aug 2014, 22:12:19 UTC - in response to Message 1555305.  

Report: Ebola outbreak probably started with 2-year-old in Guinea

(CNN) -- The worst outbreak of Ebola, which has killed 961 people and triggered an international public health emergency, may have started with a 2-year-old patient in a village in Guinea.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/health/ebola-patient-zero/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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Message 1555463 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 4:33:02 UTC - in response to Message 1555313.  

Report: Ebola outbreak probably started with 2-year-old in Guinea

(CNN) -- The worst outbreak of Ebola, which has killed 961 people and triggered an international public health emergency, may have started with a 2-year-old patient in a village in Guinea.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/health/ebola-patient-zero/index.html?hpt=hp_t2


A link from your one Lynn...

Experimental Ebola drug on its way to Liberia

The government of Liberia says that sample doses of the experimental Ebola drug ZMapp will be sent there to treat doctors who have contracted the deadly virus.
The White House and Food and Drug Administration approved the Liberian request for the drug to be made available to them.

Liberia identified itself as the recipient of the drug after the company that makes ZMapp said earlier that its supply was exhausted after fulfilling the request of a West African country, which it did not name. The delivery of the ZMapp to Liberia follows a request made on Friday from Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf to President Barack Obama.
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Message 1555589 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 9:59:37 UTC - in response to Message 1555463.  

Either it's not effective or he got given it too late...

Infected priest dies

"For the past few days he had been treated with an untested, experimental drug, Zmapp."
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Message 1555611 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 11:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1555589.  
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Either it's not effective or he got given it too late...

Infected priest dies

"For the past few days he had been treated with an untested, experimental drug, Zmapp."


:( That is a shame

I think the nature of a drug this experimental is the "proof" can't be pinned down either way :( "Treated survivors" may simply be "survivors" or as here, like you said, treated too late or with an inappropriate dosage...

...or the drug just doesn't work, despite what a petrie dish somewhere might have suggested.

Part of me wants to bark on about 38 wasted years again, but another part of me is saying "imagine 38 years of something this potentially deadly hanging about in a lab/labs somewhere...?" and then this noise interrupts me... "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!" :(
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Message 1555712 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 15:28:01 UTC - in response to Message 1555589.  

Either it's not effective or he got given it too late...

Infected priest dies

"For the past few days he had been treated with an untested, experimental drug, Zmapp."
It's experimental so it will take time and study. The problem is if it kills someone it's the "blue eyed devil" using the black man as a guinea pig.
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Message 1555715 - Posted: 12 Aug 2014, 15:36:36 UTC - in response to Message 1555712.  

batter up the priest was a european white treated in spain after being evacuated plus i don't think anybody is gona complain the death rate is to high so stuff normal procedures i think ppl will try anything with this it's just to scary not even the spainish flu had such a high death rate
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Message 1556471 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 0:35:46 UTC - in response to Message 1555715.  

WHO reports 128 new Ebola cases, 56 deaths in West Africa

The World Health Organization (WHO) on Wednesday reported 128 new Ebola cases and 56 deaths in West Africa in the two days to August 11, raising the death toll from the worst ever outbreak of the disease to 1,069.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/health/chi-ebola-outbreak-20140813-story.html
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Message 1556614 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 6:28:30 UTC - in response to Message 1556471.  

Kissing the Corpses in Ebola Country

Ebola victims are most infectious right after death—which means that West African burial practices, where families touch the bodies, are spreading the disease like wildfire.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html
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Message 1557029 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 22:46:58 UTC - in response to Message 1556614.  
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Kissing the Corpses in Ebola Country

Ebola victims are most infectious right after death—which means that West African burial practices, where families touch the bodies, are spreading the disease like wildfire.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html


:( that's the tragedy of this disease Lynn... saying goodbye to a loved one is not a safe option, both before they die and afterwards... Many people touch and cuddle a loved one or hold their hand at or soon after death... :( burial practises are just an extension of that... so sad :(
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Message 1557032 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 22:52:09 UTC - in response to Message 1557029.  

Kissing the Corpses in Ebola Country

Ebola victims are most infectious right after death—which means that West African burial practices, where families touch the bodies, are spreading the disease like wildfire.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/13/kissing-the-corpses-in-ebola-country.html


:( that's the tragedy of this disease Lynn... saying goodbye to a loved one is not a safe option, both before they die and afterwards... Many people touch and cuddle a loved one or hold their hand at or soon after death... :( burial practises are just an extension of that... so sad :(


Can't someone in authority change this practice??
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Message 1557034 - Posted: 14 Aug 2014, 22:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1557032.  

Exclusive: Emergency food drops eyed for quarantined Ebola region of West Africa

WASHINGTON (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - International agencies are looking into emergency food drops and truck convoys to reach extremely hungry people in Liberia and Sierra Leone, who are cordoned off from the outside world to halt the spread of the Ebola virus, a top World Bank official said on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/14/us-health-ebola-hunger-exclusive-idUSKBN0GE2CW20140814
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