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Message 1550779 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 4:11:19 UTC - in response to Message 1550773.  

Why do you care about internal problems of The U.S.A.?

We don't care about your internal problems.


Then stop trying influance the way our country is run .

I don't care what you do but when it starts to effect other country's then yes i have a write to get annoyed at you Americans Clyde

Why was I annoyed? I wasn't. Just an old question, never answered, listening to Europeans many decades ago, while living there.

Where do we care how YOUR Country is run internally?

Lol, you really don't know?

He doesn't as 99.99% of American's don't either. They don't see Hollywood as being any sort of official position of America, and having lived here know the difference between entertainment and government as they have experienced first hand the true bile freedom of the press brings.

Now I know every once in a while the Christorats and Christobags get their moral knickers twisted in a knot over some outrage or another and blow a lot of stinking hot air, rarely does it amount to more unless the UN is behind it. But that is a problem where ever there are holier than thou types.
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Message 1550781 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 4:30:31 UTC - in response to Message 1550779.  
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Gary whom are you talking about .

I don't know or you think i make have my ideas from movies in Hollywood .

What F%^king planet you on mate

what i am talking about is your Leaders coming here recently promote your B/S philanphy crap i suspect it is to get the tax ride off lifted above $500,000

Changing our Medicare system to then have your Crap health system

Changing our Education system to be exactly like what you have over there so school will be run by local school boards which as far as i can see will lead to Intelligent Design now being teached in schools like it is over your way .
Here's proff the DUMB DUMB gov is going to spend $250 million putting chatholic priests in school 1/4 billion for that

So don't tell me i don't f^&king know what is going on mate i don't use Hollywood to get my veiws
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Message 1550787 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 5:01:30 UTC - in response to Message 1550779.  

Why do you care about internal problems of The U.S.A.?

We don't care about your internal problems.


Then stop trying influance the way our country is run .

I don't care what you do but when it starts to effect other country's then yes i have a write to get annoyed at you Americans Clyde

Why was I annoyed? I wasn't. Just an old question, never answered, listening to Europeans many decades ago, while living there.

Where do we care how YOUR Country is run internally?

Lol, you really don't know?

He doesn't as 99.99% of American's don't either. They don't see Hollywood as being any sort of official position of America, and having lived here know the difference between entertainment and government as they have experienced first hand the true bile freedom of the press brings.

Now I know every once in a while the Christorats and Christobags get their moral knickers twisted in a knot over some outrage or another and blow a lot of stinking hot air, rarely does it amount to more unless the UN is behind it. But that is a problem where ever there are holier than thou types.

I was thinking more about your government spying on..well pretty much everyone...

..and the way you meddle in the internal affairs of countries all around the world. Perhaps Americans are not aware of what their government is up to internationally?
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Message 1550888 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 10:26:22 UTC

Finacial Times - Drug pricing: Bitter pill free subscription required

When delegates turned up for a big healthcare conference at New York’s plush Waldorf Astoria hotel in February, they were met by placard-wielding activists.

That in itself was not unusual. Big pharma has long been the subject of angry campaigns over issues such as animal testing and access to Aids drugs in Africa.

Yet the focus of these protesters was something different: the high cost of a new hepatitis medicine in the US.

This small-scale insurrection on a Manhattan sidewalk has since turned in­to something approaching a national rebellion against Gilead Sciences and its drug known as Sovaldi, which costs $84,000 for a 12-week course of treatment. Scrutiny increased further last week when the California-based biotech company announced that sales of the medicine had reached $5.7bn after six months on the market, making it the most successful drug launch on record.


Gilead agreed to sell the drug in Egypt, the country with the world’s highest prevalence of hepatitis C, at a 99 per cent discount to the US price. The move was aimed at heading off the kind of controversy faced by drugmakers in the 1990s when the industry was accused of keeping HIV medicines out of reach of poor Africans.


US drug prices are high because, unlike in most other countries, the government does not use its purchasing power to contain them. There is nothing like the UK’s National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (Nice), for example, which acts as a gatekeeper for new medicines.

Before a treatment is recommended for use in Britain’s National Health Service, its manufacturer must convince Nice that the product represents value for money.

The result is that fewer new drugs are adopted in the UK and those that are command a lower price than in the US. Gilead, for example, has priced Sovaldi at a 30 per cent discount to its US price in Britain. Yet even that has not been enough to convince Nice of its clinical value. The agency told Gilead in June to come back with more data to support its case for the drug. France, too, is playing hardball.
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Message 1550944 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 13:55:13 UTC - in response to Message 1550763.  

I don't care what you do but when it starts to effect other country's then yes i have a write to get annoyed at you Americans Clyde
I have no idea what you are talking about. Is it a "Great Satan" thing?
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Message 1550948 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 14:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 1550943.  

Just Reread the posts of American's on the Message Boards. Almost none care about, and rarely comment, upon the Internal Working of other Country's.

Yet despite your lack of interest in the internal workings of another country, your government sees fit to meddle in the internal workings of other countries.
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Message 1550952 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 14:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 1550950.  

AGAIN...

I am speaking of The American PEOPLE having NO interest in the Internal Workings of other Country's.

Why are Non-American PEOPLE obsessed with the Internal Working of the US?

Just because people like to discuss something doesn't mean they are obsessed with that subject. Tell me, are people who read tabloids obsessed with the private lives of celebrities or do they just have a passing interest in what goes on in Hollywood while they are waiting for a hair cut?
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Message 1550985 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 16:13:23 UTC - in response to Message 1550963.  
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Americans don't discuss Internal Working of Other Country's.

Really.
I have seen a lot in this Forum:)
For some reason it always turns out be a American (US) vs Europe discussion.
I think I saw a thread here called American vs Europe .
Relax CLYDE.
"We people" have interest in the US.

TGIF Cheers!
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Message 1550988 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 16:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 1550987.  


Americans don't discuss Internal Working of Other Country's.

Really.
I have seen a lot in this Forum:)
For some reason it always turns out be a American (US) vs Europe discussion.
Relax CLYDE.
"We people" have interest in the US.

TGIF Cheers!

Actually. You will see it is mostly Americans, Responding to Non-American's comments, about Internal Matters of The US.
I just don't understand, over the decades, the interest.

Then I'm sorry.
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Message 1551023 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 17:40:22 UTC - in response to Message 1550952.  

Tell me, are people who read tabloids obsessed with the private lives of celebrities or do they just have a passing interest in what goes on in Hollywood while they are waiting for a hair cut?
They are obsessed and not with getting a hair cut.
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Message 1551143 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 21:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 1550963.  
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OK.

Americans don't discuss Internal Working of Other Country's.

Why do you like discussing Internal American Workings?

Or did you mean those Non-American's who discuss the Internal Workings of The US, are nothing more than 'Tabloid Readers', and therefore, their views can be dismissed?

For one, you do. Are you not talking about the Israel-Gaza conflict? Didn't you post in the Crimea thread? Those are internal affairs of other countries. And if I were to start a topic about racism in the Netherlands you would be free to weigh in and it wouldn't bother me at all.

Secondly, why do you care if non Americans discuss the US on an internet forum? Its not breaking any site rules, and for someone who keeps harping on about how much you love freedom of speech, you should only be glad if people use such a freedom to discuss whatever they want to discuss.

Thirdly, the fact that you are bothered by the fact that non Americans talk about the inner workings of the US shows that you don't think particularly highly of the views the non Americans bring to the table.
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Message 1551270 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 4:01:03 UTC

I can still here the words of the New Yorkers after 9/11 .

Why do they hate us ?
why did they do this ?

and you still haven't figured it out yet , maybe your should start thinking what is happening to internal affairs of other country's then you might just relise your gov is the problem and the people you elect into power and just maybe you may learn a few things and start to change . Your people are part of the problem as it is you that elects theses evil men
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Message 1551302 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 5:44:23 UTC - in response to Message 1551283.  

OK.

Americans don't discuss Internal Working of Other Country's.

Why do you like discussing Internal American Workings?

Or did you mean those Non-American's who discuss the Internal Workings of The US, are nothing more than 'Tabloid Readers', and therefore, their views can be dismissed?

For one, you do. Are you not talking about the Israel-Gaza conflict? Didn't you post in the Crimea thread? Those are internal affairs of other countries. And if I were to start a topic about racism in the Netherlands you would be free to weigh in and it wouldn't bother me at all.

Secondly, why do you care if non Americans discuss the US on an internet forum? Its not breaking any site rules, and for someone who keeps harping on about how much you love freedom of speech, you should only be glad if people use such a freedom to discuss whatever they want to discuss.

Thirdly, the fact that you are bothered by the fact that non Americans talk about the inner workings of the US shows that you don't think particularly highly of the views the non Americans bring to the table.

I believe you should give some thought, understand how hard that is, before you post.

Do agree with one of your 'Thoughts'.

Crimea and Ukraine are European Problems. Will effect US to some degree. Waiting for Europe to fix the mess THEY have ALWAYS made of their Continent.

We did enter Europe twice, the last century, regarding YOUR self-made problems. It is apparent American's will not do it again. Good luck with Putin and other European types.

Therefore, stop lecturing The US regarding our problems. You have NEVER fixed your problems, which led to 10's of million murdered, and will probably lead to millions more.

You are so blissfully unaware of US foreign policy. It must be nice.
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Message 1551381 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 9:12:00 UTC - in response to Message 1551302.  
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Therefore, stop lecturing The US regarding our problems. You have NEVER fixed your problems, which led to 10's of million murdered, and will probably lead to millions more.

You are so blissfully unaware of US foreign policy. It must be nice.

Indeed nicely put.

Now let me predict his response "But the millions of people US foreign policy murdered are fine because I never said the US is perfect and we recognize that which is why we have no government just sovereign states that recognize power always goes bad unlike you stupid Europeans who trust in good governance".

Oh, and Clyde, I'm going to lecture you on US internal affairs as much as I want. Free speech baby, YEAAAHH!
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Message 1551406 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 12:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 1551283.  
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OK.
Americans don't discuss Internal Working of Other Country's.
Why do you like discussing Internal American Workings?
Or did you mean those Non-American's who discuss the Internal Workings of The US, are nothing more than 'Tabloid Readers', and therefore, their views can be dismissed?

For one, you do. Are you not talking about the Israel-Gaza conflict? Didn't you post in the Crimea thread? Those are internal affairs of other countries. And if I were to start a topic about racism in the Netherlands you would be free to weigh in and it wouldn't bother me at all.
Secondly, why do you care if non Americans discuss the US on an internet forum? Its not breaking any site rules, and for someone who keeps harping on about how much you love freedom of speech, you should only be glad if people use such a freedom to discuss whatever they want to discuss.
Thirdly, the fact that you are bothered by the fact that non Americans talk about the inner workings of the US shows that you don't think particularly highly of the views the non Americans bring to the table.

I believe you should give some thought, understand how hard that is, before you post.
Do agree with one of your 'Thoughts'.
Crimea and Ukraine are European Problems. Will effect US to some degree. Waiting for Europe to fix the mess THEY have ALWAYS made of their Continent.
We did enter Europe twice, the last century, regarding YOUR self-made problems. It is apparent American's will not do it again. Good luck with Putin and other European types.
Therefore, stop lecturing The US regarding our problems. You have NEVER fixed your problems, which led to 10's of million murdered, and will probably lead to millions more.


U.S. Ambassador to Sweden Mark Brzezinski and Natalia Brzezinski at the IOP.
---- What Politics Means to Them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VIRtUlMjdo
Do I need say more.
Mark is a great Cook:), btw
http://sweden.usembassy.gov/pe_20140515.html
http://blogs.usembassy.gov/sweden/2011/11/25/21/
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Message 1551410 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 12:19:20 UTC

Whilst I agree the title of this thread could lead to an off topic discussion.

As the original post was about drug companies and health care I really fail to see what the last dozen or so posts have to do with that.

Can we at least stop the USA vs "The rest of the world" sniping.

And no I do not suggest starting a thread about that!

A little closer to the original topic please.
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Message 1551432 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 13:35:17 UTC

I see lets just carry on as before.

OK I will lock this until the OP says it is OK to continue.
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