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Message 1550238 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 0:18:59 UTC

Last week I went to the doctor for a routine checkup. I pointed out some sores on my right leg and told her my leg felt like it had the worst sunburn ever. She diagnosed the problem as being cellulitis and prescribed doxycycline a common antibiotic. I have taken it before and it was never an expensive drug. So I was surprised to have to pay $40 for a 10 day supply. That's $2.00 per pill. So I looked it up on the internet and found this.
http://www.citywatchla.com/8box-left/4965-the-doxycycline-debacle-what-it-means-to-you-and-our-ongoing-healthcare-crisis

So, after a short time off the market it has reappeared at up to 10 times the previous going rate from all makers.
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Message 1550257 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 0:52:39 UTC - in response to Message 1550238.  
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That's the health care industry, and that's the problem, it is an industry in our country. Most of the rest of the first world does it differently.
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Message 1550267 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 1:01:33 UTC

I looked up the UK price and its £3 for 14 capsules, that would be about $5.

Looks like a full course here is for 7 days not 10 days over there. Therefore if 7 days is sufficient that would be a double rip-off.
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Message 1550293 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 2:42:59 UTC

Sorry to here that Bob .

Just goes to show you if you had gone down the path with health the way we have in Australia you would not be getting riped off i say our way as it's not a basket case system that has been manipulated the way the English system has and costs less than the English system
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Message 1550297 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 2:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 1550293.  

Sorry to here that Bob .

Just goes to show you if you had gone down the path with health the way we have in Australia you would not be getting riped off i say our way as it's not a basket case system that has been manipulated the way the English system has and costs less than the English system

Not so fast there, Glenn.


NHS comes top in healthcare survey
Study by Washington-based foundation puts healthcare provision in the US at the bottom of its report

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Message 1550300 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 3:42:47 UTC - in response to Message 1550297.  

Es99 your a Canadian mate .

Yes the NHS maybe at the top of some list but it's also to expencive ours is still a good system just isn't sending the country bankrupp

so what do you have in Canada the American system ?
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Message 1550303 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 3:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1550300.  

Es99 your a Canadian mate .

Yes the NHS maybe at the top of some list but it's also to expencive ours is still a good system just isn't sending the country bankrupp


No. I'm actually British. The bankruptcy thing is put about by ideologues who want to privatise the system and is not true.

so what do you have in Canada the American system ?

No. We have nationalised healthcare too. It is however not as comprehensive as the UK and not quite as good. It seems ok though, I have no complaints so far.
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Message 1550309 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 4:12:03 UTC - in response to Message 1550303.  

The bankruptcy thing is put about by ideologues who want to privatise the system and is not true.


Yep we got them bastas here now trying to say the same thing so they can privatise it but no way will Ozzy's let that happen MEDICARE is off limits to all those that wish to tear it down and privatise it as DUMB DUMB will find out if he makes any more changes
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Message 1550310 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 4:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 1550238.  

Last week I went to the doctor for a routine checkup. I pointed out some sores on my right leg and told her my leg felt like it had the worst sunburn ever. She diagnosed the problem as being cellulitis and prescribed doxycycline a common antibiotic. I have taken it before and it was never an expensive drug. So I was surprised to have to pay $40 for a 10 day supply. That's $2.00 per pill. So I looked it up on the internet and found this.
http://www.citywatchla.com/8box-left/4965-the-doxycycline-debacle-what-it-means-to-you-and-our-ongoing-healthcare-crisis

So, after a short time off the market it has reappeared at up to 10 times the previous going rate from all makers.

http://www.drugs.com/price-guide/doxycycline
Looks like the price is all over the place.
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Message 1550315 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 4:38:13 UTC
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maybe you Americans should be lobbying your gov to come up with a PDS system where the gov negosiates with drug company's for a price and then subsidies it .

The gov has all the power and the drug company's have to drop the price or they won't be able to sell there drugs . This allows the gov to spend a little more on the rear drugs for the people that have rear diseases that do cost a lot to make
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Message 1550337 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 5:57:09 UTC - in response to Message 1550315.  

maybe you Americans should be lobbying your gov to come up with a PDS system where the gov negosiates with drug company's for a price and then subsidies it .

The gov has all the power and the drug company's have to drop the price or they won't be able to sell there drugs . This allows the gov to spend a little more on the rear drugs for the people that have rear diseases that do cost a lot to make

Our government grants patents to drug companies so that the drug companies can set whatever price they like. It has to be much much higher to cover the cost of subsiding the drugs that your country buys.
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Message 1550374 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 7:04:26 UTC - in response to Message 1550337.  

Our government grants patents to drug companies so that the drug companies can set whatever price they like. It has to be much much higher to cover the cost of subsiding the drugs that your country buys.


yep that's right where prety smart down here we get the rest of you guys to subsidise us

what do you expect we are a nation built on convicts and crime's can be very smart

suckers !!!!!
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Message 1550425 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 10:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1550315.  

maybe you Americans should be lobbying your gov to come up with a PDS system where the gov negosiates with drug company's for a price and then subsidies it .

The gov has all the power and the drug company's have to drop the price or they won't be able to sell there drugs . This allows the gov to spend a little more on the rear drugs for the people that have rear diseases that do cost a lot to make


Don't you mean the taxpayer subsidises it?
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Message 1550484 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 14:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 1550425.  

i spose for your way of thinking the taxpayer .my way the gov no taxpayer pay's any specific tax for it
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Message 1550526 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 15:58:35 UTC
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I can verify Bob's experience with Doxycycline pricing.
On 4/25/13 and couple of times before that, I bought a 20 pill supply for $5.00.
The next time I got a refill, on 11/29/13, the price had gone up to $36.00.
And my last refill on 1/19/14, it had taken a another little bump up to $40.00.

This, for an old standby drug, not a new 'miracle' drug. No additional research was required to bring it back into production. And since it used to be readily available for $5.00, we know it does not cost much to manufacture. But overall demand and usage was not as high as it once was. So most drug manufacturers said the heck with it.
Then somebody just figured, hey...since it is still indicated for some things and doctors are still prescribing it, let's whip up a batch now and then and sell it for 8 times the going rate. We'll give them what they need, and they'll give us what we want....huge profit margins.

Which shows what supply and demand can do. And how little the drug manufacturers really care about much other than their profits. And with very little regulation of such things in the US market, they were free to do it.
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Message 1550532 - Posted: 31 Jul 2014, 16:09:56 UTC - in response to Message 1550496.  

Which results in High Inflation (Hidden Tax).


maybe in America but we don't have a prob with your hidden tax and in fact we are 3rd lowest taxing country in the world . Only america and 1 other country beat us and the difference is not much .

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Message 1550747 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 1:04:56 UTC - in response to Message 1550484.  

i spose for your way of thinking the taxpayer .my way the gov no taxpayer pay's any specific tax for it
That's how they think in Newark; "it's free" the government gives it to me. That makes my skin crawl.
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Message 1550763 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 3:00:25 UTC - in response to Message 1550702.  

Why do you care about internal problems of The U.S.A.?

We don't care about your internal problems.


Then stop trying influance the way our country is run .

I don't care what you do but when it starts to effect other country's then yes i have a write to get annoyed at you Americans Clyde
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Message 1550764 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 3:12:54 UTC - in response to Message 1550747.  

Batter up i worked most of mt life mate and i have payed more than my fear shear of taxes i just don't begrudge others whom may not be able to fend for them self's for what ever reason . It don't matter to me if there morons (have a IQ of 80 or less) or there a Alco or druggy . Human life is way more complicated than what arrogant smart arse well off or rich or richy rich people think it is . And your a rabbi ?! wtf is wrong with that ? Your a Rabbi i say again where does that attitude fit in with the Bible ?

you should be ashamed of your self for having those attitudes
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Message 1550773 - Posted: 1 Aug 2014, 3:54:12 UTC - in response to Message 1550768.  

Why do you care about internal problems of The U.S.A.?

We don't care about your internal problems.


Then stop trying influance the way our country is run .

I don't care what you do but when it starts to effect other country's then yes i have a write to get annoyed at you Americans Clyde

Why was I annoyed? I wasn't. Just an old question, never answered, listening to Europeans many decades ago, while living there.

Where do we care how YOUR Country is run internally?

Lol, you really don't know?
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