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Message 1544930 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 15:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 1544926.  

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Message 1544931 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 15:38:57 UTC

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Message 1544940 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 16:07:08 UTC - in response to Message 1544926.  
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Yep, personally seen that locally for the town centre here. About ONE QUARTER of the central area (a good few acres!) was left semi-derelict and decrepit for over a decade until the local council started action to reclaim the land.

Then suddenly, Tescos put in plans for a single story supermarket, car park, and petrol station... And the removal of a small row of long established shops.

Then the site was rapidly cleared and left barren and barricaded off... Whilst multiple planning arguments ensued.

Years more and with a lot of intervention by our local MP, we looked to have a reasonable compromise that wouldn't obliterate all other shopping. We even had a concession that Tescos would make available a small row of shopping units to replace those lost.

And then the build began.

Not sure exactly when or how, but the planning was 'changed' and the Tesco supermarket actually built was a much larger two floor 'hypermarket'. Also, the shop units that were included looked to me to be deliberately oriented so that they were AWAY from the normal route that shoppers would take. Indeed, they look to be back-to-front whereby the completely blank brick and concrete back wall of the shop units face the Tesco main entrance!

Since then, there were the anti-Tesco 'riots' in Bristol.

Here, the one shop that tried one of the Tesco units died. Later, a pet shop has moved in taking over ALL of the units in one go and seems to be making a good go of it.

And there is a 100-years-old+ family local fruit and veg shop that has been allowed to expand and seems to be doing well with a lot of local loyalty. For myself, I can also shop there far more quickly than suffering the suspicions and distraction of the Tesco way of long walks and distracting packaging and dubious food colours...


Here's hoping that the over-rushed population do learn to be more circumspect about what I consider to be the various highstreet bullies!


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Message 1544948 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 16:22:34 UTC

Of course here there was a long derelict pub, which was a dive when it was opened. Tesco's now has the nicest brightest shop in the area.

So I have definitely no axe to grind here I use the shop daily and for me and all the people in the area it is a godsend.
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Message 1544950 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 16:26:16 UTC

Didn't work so well on this side of the pond ...
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Message 1544954 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 16:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1544948.  
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Of course here there was a long derelict pub, which was a dive when it was opened. Tesco's now has the nicest brightest shop in the area.

So I have definitely no axe to grind here I use the shop daily and for me and all the people in the area it is a godsend.

Which is all well and good until the might of the shopping chain subsidizing that outlet drives all the surrounding outlets out of business so that the prices can then be bumped up for monopoly profiteering...

That may well not always be the case but for my area, to me there definitely looks to be the Tesco game of monopoly saturation to try to drive out ALL other food outlets... (THREE Tesco Hypermarkets all at about three mile intervals?!! Incredible. Two dominating small shopping centres, and the other one halfway between where a shopping centre could be expected.)


Usual business model for saturating an area with your one "brand"...

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Message 1544958 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 16:45:39 UTC
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Some areas in London's east end are ONLY served by Tesco's, Tesco's Express and Tesco's Metro. Many residents are on very limited incomes, run no car and are elderly or disabled and have no other option other than to shop in these greedy establishments. They pay at least 50 percent more on average for their groceries than if they'd shopped in another Tesco's store in a more affluent area, where competition forces the store to keep their prices down. Some - in full time work are having to rely on foodbanks to feed their children. Maybe they wouldn't be so hard pressed if it wasn't for the Tesco monopoly and the pricing that results from it.

Tesco treats these customers as if they are stupid. Buy a product (not on "special offer") in Bow for £1.29 one week, (£0.79 in Guildford) and the next week they will pay £1.99 for it (still £0.79 in Guildford) A week later, if they're lucky, they will find it emblazoned with loads of "special offer" tags telling them "every little helps" and will find it's priced £1.79 and there it will stay for a week or two, before going back to it's "pre-offer price" of ahem... £2.19. And in Guildford? Well it's 59p there for about a month before returning to 79p.

Now I know there are posters here who REALLY don't care... and I'm sure they will pop in and tell us that (where they haven't already) but I do! So thank you Chris for highlighting how they got to this position of power. And thank you too to Greenpeace for continuing to highlight the fact that Tesco's and dolphin-friendly tuna do NOT go hand-in-hand.

edit: Batterup... if you would be so kind as to NOT ask me why they don't jump over the nets... it would make a refreshing change... :)

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Oops - sorry Chris - got so into my rant I forgot the point you were making :) (good to see you on this board BTW :))

So wriggling, they now have admitted to their property portfolio, and say it will be used for housing instead. They say it is in response to "changing customer shopping habits". Exactly, people prefer Sainsburys or Asda and they know it! They had to write down the value of their land by $800 million, so their bean counters are not happy! No way on this earth do they want houses on their land, but public opinion is forcing them to play good cop for a while. How long will it last?


Not long - but maybe they will get a taste for becoming landlords - certainly at London's rental prices... another trough for their little piggy noses perhaps? Given time...
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Message 1544969 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 17:12:01 UTC

Just what is Tesco's?

Q: What is the difference between them & Banks, the Government, & every other company/corporation?

A: They are just brands. The problem with all is that those brands are operated by people.

Attacking a brand is pointless & as we know, the OP has links to the DPM, so why doesn't he bring that up with him instead of posting a rant against a brand
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Message 1544970 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 17:22:06 UTC - in response to Message 1544958.  

Some areas in London's east end are ONLY served by Tesco's, Tesco's Express and Tesco's Metro. Many residents are on very limited incomes, run no car and are elderly or disabled and have no other option other than to shop in these greedy establishments. They pay at least 50 percent more on average for their groceries than if they'd shopped in another Tesco's store in a more affluent area, where competition forces the store to keep their prices down. Some - in full time work are having to rely on foodbanks to feed their children. Maybe they wouldn't be so hard pressed if it wasn't for the Tesco monopoly and the pricing that results from it.

Tesco treats these customers as if they are stupid. Buy a product (not on "special offer") in Bow for £1.29 one week, (£0.79 in Guildford) and the next week they will pay £1.99 for it (still £0.79 in Guildford) A week later, if they're lucky, they will find it emblazoned with loads of "special offer" tags telling them "every little helps" and will find it's priced £1.79 and there it will stay for a week or two, before going back to it's "pre-offer price" of ahem... £2.19. And in Guildford? Well it's 59p there for about a month before returning to 79p.


Ah, the McD's effect. Price of a Big Mac, in the poor areas that can least afford it, 25% more than in the affluent areas. I've mentioned this before, and my sample size is small but it seems to be real. The area is Los Angeles. A nice megalopolis. The McD's near work nearly across the board charges 25% more than the McD's near home. The exception being a few items on the "dollar" menu, that isn't one dollar any more.

Ask why. It is competition? Is it how much the customers will pay? It is some other factor? Is it some combination of factors?

Possible factors, the store near home is corporate owned, the one near work is a franchise. The one near home seem to be 90% drive up, yes you may see a Bentley in line, and 10% walk in. The one near work is 25% drive in 75% walk in. The one near home does not seem to have an issue with homeless who want to live there, the one near work does. I've never heard of either place being held up, but there is a difference in the crime rate. The one near home does not seem to be vandalized, the one near work is covered in graffiti. There is one more possible factor, the one near work is about two blocks from a school, so the kids flock there as they can't stand the free Michelle Obama school lunch, the one near home is across the street from a large fulfillment operation. Oh the store near home the only other food in a two block radius is a sit down full service restaurant. The one at work has a little caesars, burger king, subway, yoshonia and 4 independent places in a two block radius.
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Message 1544985 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 18:12:02 UTC - in response to Message 1544970.  

Ah, the McD's effect. Price of a Big Mac, in the poor areas that can least afford it, 25% more than in the affluent areas. I've mentioned this before, and my sample size is small but it seems to be real.
I have seen this. I live in a heavily Republican area but play in Newark NJ. Not only are the prices higher in Newark but the service and quality are atrocious. It is a combination of the work force and the difficulty of operating a business in that area.
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Message 1545195 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 7:52:38 UTC

I'm of the opinion that all these large retail organisations are just out to fleece the shoppers. So singling out Tesco's is probably neither here nor there.

Don't forget Asda is Walmarts UK chain.

I think the stores to avoid are the Pound stores, in UK we have several high street shopping chains where everything costs £1. Where they fill the shop front with goods, quite often near the end of shelf live or a specially produced goods. But when you look inside you find goods that can be bought under £1, or pay £1.50p and buy twice the quantity, in other shops.

But presumably most of the shoppers cannot work that out because they didn't pay attention in school and cannot do mental arithmetic.
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Message 1545216 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 9:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 1545204.  

Ever heard of the Peel Group (previously Peel Holdings).
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Message 1545219 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 9:14:11 UTC - in response to Message 1545204.  

There are the £1 shops and the 99p ones. Most goods are end of shelf life or end of ranges, and except for food are sourced mainly from the East. I have a good set of tools e.g. screwdrivers, hammers, wrenches, spanners etc that are perfectly good enough for DIY work, and great value for money. I wouldn't buy food there though. Solar garden lights at £1 each last 1 or 2 years, then you chuck them away and buy another one. Cheaper than paying £10 each for the expensive ones.

Meh those pound shops rip you off if you are not careful. Especially with their 'cheap' A brand deals they are actually far more expensive than places like Tesco or other, larger, retail stores. Usually because they use special packaging and you basically get less than if you would shop at Tesco or something.
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Message 1545233 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 9:38:52 UTC - in response to Message 1545226.  

I'm sure its fine for hardware as well as a lot of other stuff.

Just saying, as a consumer, inform yourself, its the best way to prevent being ripped off by businesses.
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Message 1545245 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 10:12:16 UTC - in response to Message 1545226.  

Yup that's them, their announcements are probably in the same league as Tesco's.

It's another of those companies that has paid very little tax and did you look a little bit further down at PEEL HOLDINGS BEAST EXPOSED IN SALFORD AND LIVERPOOL

Or Whitebirk retail park plans: Peel Holdings apply to Supreme Court It at Junction 6 on M65, so just right to suck in trade from near and far.
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Message 1545315 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 14:57:43 UTC - in response to Message 1545256.  

I would agree that the following list pretty much sums up tesco as well.

* An indifference to public opinion and a tokenistic approach to public consultation and due democratic process
* Contempt for local government
* A preparedness to enter into any potentially lucrative sector, regardless of experience
* A cavalier attitude to 'soft' (ie: non-commercial) concerns such as public and environmental health
* A similarly cavalier approach to local need and preference
* A readiness to exploit legal loopholes
* A dogged determination, in the face of opposition, to 'win'
* Corporate 'combativeness' – Peel is prepared to fight its corner in the highest courts
* A preparedness to abandon 'sinking ship' projects if and when these prove to be unprofitable


But as far as I [k]now, it is the only retail chain that deliberately buys land solely to stop their competitors doing so, and bulldozes planning applications through in the manner that they do. It is sharp business practice and bullyboy tactics, that is why they are so disliked.


That's where the problem is The planning applications were approved were they not?
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Message 1545317 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 15:01:24 UTC - in response to Message 1545315.  
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... That's where the problem is The planning applications were approved were they not?

The problem is that certain large chains can afford to "dispute" everything aggressively, knowing that the local councils cannot afford to go to court...


All yet another form of legal bullying?...

Unpleasant stuff...


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Message 1545323 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 15:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 1545317.  
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Quite true, but are these brands being run by androids with AI?

Aggressively or not, the fault lies with the local government. Overspending, introducing jobs for the boys, stupid regulations, forcing local businesses out of business due to too high business rates...

...in comes bookmakers who always make a profit & our high streets...

...big companies like Tesco's know this & take advantage. Is that really the fault of Tesco?

Edit:

Tesco boss stepping down
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Message 1545336 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 16:12:26 UTC - in response to Message 1545323.  
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Quite true, but are these brands being run by androids with AI?

Aggressively or not, the fault lies with the local government. Overspending, introducing jobs for the boys, stupid regulations, forcing local businesses out of business due to too high business rates...

...in comes bookmakers who always make a profit & our high streets...

...big companies like Tesco's know this & take advantage. Is that really the fault of Tesco?

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You are deflecting into confusion...

There is various "sharp" practice in business. Some businesspeople are sharper and more bloodied than others. Really, is anything-goes all without morals an acceptable way of business? We've seen too many examples of that with 'very bad' results for the victims.


I thought this thread was focused on the negative returns from the public for a company that has possibly made too bad a name for itself for physically monopolizing areas. To the extent that there were 'riots' spawned in Bristol.

Elsewhere, I've seen what I see as their overly aggressive tactics in action and I feel very strongly that it destroys livelihoods and denies healthy choice for everyone.


Such is business at all cost and no morals...

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Message 1545347 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 16:40:26 UTC - in response to Message 1545336.  

Really, is anything-goes all without morals an acceptable way of business?

It is called the fiduciary duty to the shareholder, and they codified it into law.
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