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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Intelligence Officials Present Evidence for How Malaysian Plane Was Shot Down http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/07/intelligence-officials-present-evidence-for-how-malaysian-plane-was-shot-down/ |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19059 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
But they did say that this base near Rostov is being used to support and train the rebels. Which in my book says, The US cannot verify it but thinks this rocket launcher could have been prepared here and the crew trained here. |
Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
Basically the same news but they mention they hadn't observed Buk missile systems being moved into Ukraine despite seeing everything else and also have no specific reason to believe that Russia had trained any separatists in use of those systems. Lacking that evidence leaves open the possibility of using captured Ukrainian missiles fired by persons possibly previously trained in their use in military, either Russian or Ukrainian. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
That what i have herd they where trained at least the Russians said as a way to back out ! Let's hope the investigators can clear it up . As for the 1 that was in control of the missile system , he'll just claim it was a mistake and only had a few weeks training you watch |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
There is a Telescope-Camera Combo Device when pointed at a Flying Object, thru its Computer Linked database, can determine what kind of plane is in The Sky. Every Nasty ground to air Killing Machine out There should have one. Point, check, know. Fire, Not Fire. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Weez Gots to Be DUMMIES and Do Da Stupid Nasty Killing Thing, when We Think We Know or Don't Care if We Know. Just Shoot and Not Answer Questions Later. IDIOTS! Frakkin' Wipes. Geez O Flip ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
A good ideas Dull but this is Soviet-era surplus weaponry we're talking about here. Also, I'm not sure what the situation is with regards to internet access in Eastern Ukraine right now but I suspect it's patchy at best. I imagine an aircraft at 10km altitude is not easily identified. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
DayKay said: Also, I'm not sure what the situation is with regards to internet access in Eastern Ukraine right now but I suspect it's patchy at best. The Telescope/Camera is Connected Directly to The Database. It 'is' ALL ONBOARD and Ready To Tell. The Telescope/Camera can 'See' and Record Crystal Clear Vid as Far as Any 'Plane' or 'UFO' is 'Flying'. It is NOT Part of The 'Surplus' Gear or New Gear. 'It' 'is' an Autonomous Unit. 'It' 'is' There There Ready to Work and Tell The Killers what They Don't Need To Know. Which 'is', No Kill dat One, IDIOTS! ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I imagine an aircraft at 10km altitude is not easily identified. Civil aircraft has a transponder turned on showing what nationality they belong. Military aircraft do not. The acquisition radar component allows the system to identify, track and target selected targets. RTFM! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buk_missile_system The naval system is scheduled for delivery in 2014. It will be identified with the NATO reporting name Gollum To be used in Baltic Sea perhaps? http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/06/11/russian-corvette-successfully-tests-missile-in-baltic-sea.html |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A good ideas Dull but this is Soviet-era surplus weaponry we're talking about here. I don't think so. Tech news from Russia! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJAmzwjs0pk |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
The reports I've heard is there is another more sophisticated radar unit that is used in conjunction with a battery of BUK launchers. The Russians didn't bring one of those across the boarder because it would have shown they are doing the shooting.
At 1 minute one can see the controlling radar. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Halya Coynash, Human Rights in Ukraine, are worried! She asks "No Sanctions Game Changer?" http://khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1406069028 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The reports I've heard is there is another more sophisticated radar unit that is used in conjunction with a battery of BUK launchers. The Russians didn't bring one of those across the boarder because it would have shown they are doing the shooting. Anyway. Within two kilometres from Russia drove the blogger S Beech 1 meter behind a BUK, which he said was being transported from the border with Ukraine. In his opinion this is the most COMPLEX installation from which the shot was fired. http://freejournal.biz/article4621/index.html Vehicle registration plates XP4682 50 Moscow Oblast! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
It just makes Putin look bad. Well, on second thought, since Putin is bad: Don't! LOL |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I imagine an aircraft at 10km altitude is not easily identified. You ever heard of IFF? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
You ever heard of IFF? Can't say I do. All those acronyms... Found it:) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You ever heard of IFF? IFF |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
[quote]You ever heard of IFF? I Found it First:) |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
You ever heard of IFF? The Russians didn't bring that radar across the boarder. Please try to keep up. The reports I've heard is there is another more sophisticated radar unit that is used in conjunction with a battery of BUK launchers. The Russians didn't bring one of those across the boarder because it would have shown they are doing the shooting. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You ever heard of IFF? Try reading in sequence & understanding what you read. |
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