Your an idiot Batter Up, you should learn how to use the internet.

You disappoint me. I kept your thread alive when all were ignoring you as we all should. I ask one question about contradictions in your videos and not only don't you answer you go off on a name calling rant. Shame, shame, Allie you are full of dung. Thank you for giving me to opportunity to expose you for what you are. My work is done. That was too easy, you have nothing, nothing.

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Your an idiot Batter Up, you should learn how to use the internet.

You disappoint me. I kept your thread alive when all were ignoring you as we all should. I ask one question about contradictions in your videos and not only don't you answer you go off on a name calling rant. Shame, shame, Allie you are full of dung. Thank you for giving me to opportunity to expose you for what you are. My work is done. That was too easy, you have nothing, nothing.

Batter Up,
Firstly, I don't need someone to keep my threads alive. I'm one of the most controversial people on these forums. Everything I say is controversial, so I don't need someone to bump my threads.

Secondly, "contradictions in my videos" ???? They aren't my videos??

Thirdly, Batter Up you came into a thread I started, with your buddy Sirius B, and decided to attack me because you wrongly thought I was the user called Intelligent Design. Well you found out that i'm not him!! And even when well known and trusted SETI users vouched for me, you still didn't believe it. So Batter Up, next time you decide to attack someone, make sure you know who you are attacking.

Johnney Guinness.

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Thirdly, Batter Up you came into a thread I started, with your buddy Sirius B,

Where's the attack? You've stated that you found god, okay, no problem, then you post details about "America & Britain in prophecy"

Are you stating that the "Book of Revelations" was not the basis of the book you linked to?

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Thirdly, Batter Up you came into a thread I started, with your buddy Sirius B,

Where's the attack? You've stated that you found god, okay, no problem, then you post details about "America & Britain in prophecy"

Are you stating that the "Book of Revelations" was not the basis of the book you linked to?

Sirius B,
Here is the thread that you and Batter Up decided to attack me in. The thread where the 2 of you decided that I was the user called ID, and you went in there to "Get me", and I had to close down the thread, and the moderators had to lock the thread;
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75214

John.

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John, don't act so stupid. I never attacked you or called you I.D for the simple fact is that I know you are not.

Rather than answer my previous post, you deign to attack me? Are you looking to get this one locked?

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John, don't act so stupid. I never attacked you or called you I.D for the simple fact is that I know you are not.

Rather than answer my previous post, you deign to attack me? Are you looking to get this one locked?

It's my fault for feeding her. I thought she wanted to have an intelligent discussion but I was wrong. In a battle of whits she is unarmed.

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John, don't act so stupid. I never attacked you or called you I.D for the simple fact is that I know you are not.

Rather than answer my previous post, you deign to attack me? Are you looking to get this one locked?

Quote from Sirius B in the thread that was closed;

:-) Another religious thread about to die a quick death. Maybe we should give the suckers what they want by putting them in the science threads...

...they'll probably last a lot longer :-)

Sirius B, that was simply a hate statement that was intended to start a flame war!

John.

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Okay - as I answered a certain way to one of the questions in the How angelic I am :))) quiz (or something like that) I am now going to attempt to settle this little disagreement between gentleman as I said I would if I found them arguing on the street :)

Johnney... I can find nowhere where Sirius said you were ID. Having debated with ID myself on several occasions and been singed by you on a couple, I can definitely attest to you being a completely different person.

And don't stress... I spent my first four months on SETI with everyone thinking I was a man :) I have since been thoroughly vetted :) and the general consensus now is that I'm not! :)

edit: I see you quoted from the previous thread - the clue I think is the use of the plural - suggesting at least two very different people, yourself, and ID perhaps?

This thread is becoming a hate/flame war so we will have a little cool down.

Jonnney Guinness your other thread was locked because you put "Thread Closed"

no other reason.

Lets just all cool down and remember just because you don't agree with someone there is absolutely no reason to start calling each other names and disputing a persons identity.

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A second try?

Please do not descend into name calling.

The subject might be not to everyone's taste, but please keep it civil.

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And not every body thinks coloured people should marry white people. These are just simple facts.

Yes, and those people are racists. And if they make their racists views part of their religion, then by extension their religion becomes racist. No ifs or buts, not excuses, they are pure and simple racists. And I think racism is a detestable offense against humanity and I think those who preach racism are horrible human beings. And I honestly do not care what racists think of the bible or religion, all they do is give it a bad name.

And not every body thinks coloured people should marry white people. These are just simple facts.

Yes, and those people are racists. And if they make their racists views part of their religion, then by extension their religion becomes racist. No ifs or buts, not excuses, they are pure and simple racists. And I think racism is a detestable offense against humanity and I think those who preach racism are horrible human beings. And I honestly do not care what racists think of the bible or religion, all they do is give it a bad name.

Michelle,
Someone isn't a racist just because they don't see the world through your eyes. A person isn't racist because they want to fall in love and marry another person from the same ethnic background as themselves. This is simply human nature for a person to chose to marry someone who is from the same ethnic background. Its not racist!

London is a very good example of a city that has people from all over the world. And what you always find in cities like this is that people always cluster and live close by to their "own people" or race of people. So in cities like London, all the Asians tend to live in particular areas. And all the African people stick together in particular areas. And all the Muslims all live together in another area of the City. And its the same the world over, no matter where you go. People in general prefer to marry their "own kind".

As for you Michelle, you accused David C. Pack of being, and I quote, a "racist bigot who thinks the EU is run by the Anti-Christ".

Now that is just bang out of order! You don't even know the man. And you are calling him terrible names and saying terrible things about the man.

John.

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Michelle,
Someone isn't a racist just because they don't see the world through your eyes. A person isn't racist because they want to fall in love and marry another person from the same ethnic background as themselves. This is simply human nature for a person to chose to marry someone who is from the same ethnic background. Its not racist!

Nope, its not racist to fall in love on people of your own ethnicity. It becomes racists once you do that because you believe that you need to keep your own race 'pure'. It becomes racist when you are not allowed by others to marry outside your ethnicity because those others believe in racial purity. This churches motives are racist and therefor they are racist.

As for you Michelle, you accused David C. Pack of being, and I quote, a "racist bigot who thinks the EU is run by the Anti-Christ".

Now that is just bang out of order! You don't even know the man. And you are calling him terrible names and saying terrible things about the man.

John.

You admitted yourself that he believes the EU is run by the Anti-Christ (second Roman empire, the beast, etc). The racism, well the fact that interracial marriages are not allowed says enough. The bigotry is connected right to that. Don't need to personally know the guy, his actions and publicly stated beliefs say enough about him and his church.

Okay, I've read the book. Can't find much difference between that & what Jehovah's witnesses have stated over the years regarding the Eagle & the Lion.

Let's look at the Eagle & the Lion & the time period. America & Britain? Really?

The period that Jesus lived through was the Roman Empire...

The Aquila

"Marius later made the eagle (aquila) the supreme symbol because of its association with the god Jupiter."

...and what of the lion?

Staying in the same time period, we have the Lion as the ultimate symbol as a test of Christianity's faith.

Another way of looking at it is that authors (unless some futuristic Sci-Fi novel) write their stories around the times they live in.

Move forward 2000 years & not much as changed...

...any lions in Mosul?

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David C. Pack is my Teacher, my Rabbi, and he has shown me the way to the Light of God's Kingdom. I am very thankful to him.

Information on The Restored Church of God and David C. Pack that you may not have had time to find for yourself.

And... ...in case you ever need it

May God bless and protect David C. Pack and give him his rightful place in the coming Kingdom of God that will arrive on Earth very soon.

David Pack's prophecies

September 27, 2016 is the um... revised apocalyptic date because... well... because the others must've been off a bit. (Last failure: 19th May 2013)

Okay. Now... you might find the following link upsetting Johnney (particularly the further down the page you get) so don't click on it unless you wish to hear some of the testimonies from RCG members who know David Pack personally. I am including it because as Мишель said:

Don't need to personally know the guy, his actions and publicly stated beliefs say enough about him and his church.

Restored Church of God

I am not in any way attempting to undermine your faith and religious beliefs, so please don't shout at me :) Former "victims" (as they see themselves) of RCG (and other splinter groups that formed alongside it) kept their faith in Christianity and it's teachings after leaving this "cult" (as they call it) much much poorer then when they joined it adnittedly, but that's neither here nor there. Not one of them continues to give credence to David C Pack's claims that he is a prophet.

If September 27, 2016 passes by without a hitch - will you accept yet another revised doomsday date?

If September 27, 2016 passes by without a hitch - will you accept yet another revised doomsday date?

There is a better one...

00:00 01/01/2000

...oops, that's been & gone :-)

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Michelle,
Someone isn't a racist just because they don't see the world through your eyes. A person isn't racist because they want to fall in love and marry another person from the same ethnic background as themselves. This is simply human nature for a person to chose to marry someone who is from the same ethnic background. Its not racist!

Nope, its not racist to fall in love on people of your own ethnicity. It becomes racists once you do that because you believe that you need to keep your own race 'pure'. It becomes racist when you are not allowed by others to marry outside your ethnicity because those others believe in racial purity. This churches motives are racist and therefor they are racist.

As for you Michelle, you accused David C. Pack of being, and I quote, a "racist bigot who thinks the EU is run by the Anti-Christ".

Now that is just bang out of order! You don't even know the man. And you are calling him terrible names and saying terrible things about the man.

John.

You admitted yourself that he believes the EU is run by the Anti-Christ (second Roman empire, the beast, etc). The racism, well the fact that interracial marriages are not allowed says enough. The bigotry is connected right to that. Don't need to personally know the guy, his actions and publicly stated beliefs say enough about him and his church.

Michelle,
Ahh no, David C. Pack doesn't say the EU is run by the Anti-Christ! That's a terrible thing to say about such a lovely man!

No, instead he says the EU is "The Dragon", that gives its power to "The Beast", which is America and Britain. And lets be clear here, that's the Beast from the Sea, with the 7 heads and the 10 horns and a crown on each horn. As opposed to the Beast from the land with the 2 heads. No, the Anti-Christ just rides the back of The Beast and deceives millions, through its False Prophets, and gets everybody who is not written in the book of life to take the mark of the Beast on their right hand or forehead, and its the number of a man, and its number is 666. And the Vatican is the prostitute that sits on many waters and is dressed in Purple and Red, and is based in the city of 7 hills, which is Rome, which in the End Times, will be stripped nakid and left lying dead in the streets, and nobody will come to tend to the body. But they will write letters to each other saying how wonderful it is to see the prostitute is dead. And then for one hour, the 10 Kings will come together to concede their power to Jesus Christ as he is returning in the clouds.

At least get the story straight :)

John :)

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Okay, I've read the book. Can't find much difference between that & what Jehovah's witnesses have stated over the years regarding the Eagle & the Lion.

Let's look at the Eagle & the Lion & the time period. America & Britain? Really?

The period that Jesus lived through was the Roman Empire...

The Aquila

"Marius later made the eagle (aquila) the supreme symbol because of its association with the god Jupiter."

...and what of the lion?

Staying in the same time period, we have the Lion as the ultimate symbol as a test of Christianity's faith.

Another way of looking at it is that authors (unless some futuristic Sci-Fi novel) write their stories around the times they live in.

Move forward 2000 years & not much as changed...

...any lions in Mosul?

Sirius B,
What book did you read? Is it America & Britain in Prophesy? I'm ashamed to say, but I only got through about half the book. I only read the bit up until the point where David C. Pack explains how the thrown of King David passes through 3 Kingdoms. First the royal bloodline of King David is passed forward from Israel through his daughter Tea-Tephi, who is taken by the Biblical Prophet Jeremiah to Egypt, then on to Ireland where she marries into the line of the High Kings of Ireland. Then the royal blood line is uprooted again and moves to Scotland. And then again a third time, the royal bloodline is uprooted again and moved down to England, where it is still there today in the royal bloodline of Queen Elizabeth II.

I quit the book after that. That was the bit wanted to read. So I don't know what he said about the Eagle and the lion symbols.

John.

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David C. Pack is my Teacher, my Rabbi, and he has shown me the way to the Light of God's Kingdom. I am very thankful to him.

Information on The Restored Church of God and David C. Pack that you may not have had time to find for yourself.

And... ...in case you ever need it

May God bless and protect David C. Pack and give him his rightful place in the coming Kingdom of God that will arrive on Earth very soon.

David Pack's prophecies

September 27, 2016 is the um... revised apocalyptic date because... well... because the others must've been off a bit. (Last failure: 19th May 2013)

Okay. Now... you might find the following link upsetting Johnney (particularly the further down the page you get) so don't click on it unless you wish to hear some of the testimonies from RCG members who know David Pack personally. I am including it because as Мишель said:

Don't need to personally know the guy, his actions and publicly stated beliefs say enough about him and his church.

Restored Church of God

I am not in any way attempting to undermine your faith and religious beliefs, so please don't shout at me :) Former "victims" (as they see themselves) of RCG (and other splinter groups that formed alongside it) kept their faith in Christianity and it's teachings after leaving this "cult" (as they call it) much much poorer then when they joined it adnittedly, but that's neither here nor there. Not one of them continues to give credence to David C Pack's claims that he is a prophet.

If September 27, 2016 passes by without a hitch - will you accept yet another revised doomsday date?

Anniet,
Well somebody went to a lot of trouble building those websites and writing out all that stuff. Well done Anniet for finding the websites and the articles. Sounds like somebody has a real bad grudge against David C. Pack. And judging by the content of the articles, the person sounds pretty gullible, and is left with a bad taste in their mouth after being stung.

Yep, it definitely sounds like I have been sucked into a religious cult. That is what the websites call the Restored Church of God, they call it a cult! Well Anniet, if they say its a cult, then it must be a cult so, isn't that right? It says so right there on the internet, so it must be true? There is no way they would make stuff up and then put it on a website on the internet.

Gee Anniet, sounds like you saved me from the nightmare of a vicious religious cult that sucks people in just to get their money of them!! Wow, I was blind and now I know the real truth, because I read it on that really super website. Wow, I feel enlightened Anniet now that you have educated me about religious cults claiming that God done it all.

Gee thanks Anniet, how can I ever repay you for saving me from the vicious religious cult that is run by a power hunger demon who just wants everybody's money?

Have you a paypal account Anniet, I can forward you some cash to thank you.

John.

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Michelle,
Ahh no, David C. Pack doesn't say the EU is run by the Anti-Christ! That's a terrible thing to say about such a lovely man!

No, instead he says the EU is "The Dragon", that gives its power to "The Beast", which is America and Britain. And lets be clear here, that's the Beast from the Sea, with the 7 heads and the 10 horns and a crown on each horn. As opposed to the Beast from the land with the 2 heads. No, the Anti-Christ just rides the back of The Beast and deceives millions, through its False Prophets, and gets everybody who is not written in the book of life to take the mark of the Beast on their right hand or forehead, and its the number of a man, and its number is 666. And the Vatican is the prostitute that sits on many waters and is dressed in Purple and Red, and is based in the city of 7 hills, which is Rome, which in the End Times, will be stripped nakid and left lying dead in the streets, and nobody will come to tend to the body. But they will write letters to each other saying how wonderful it is to see the prostitute is dead. And then for one hour, the 10 Kings will come together to concede their power to Jesus Christ as he is returning in the clouds.

At least get the story straight :)

John :)

There is absolutely no sane response to this... Really it sounds like a bad Clive Barker novel or something. Oh well, have fun with your religious racist friends/con artist out for your money.