How I learned about God - David C. Pack
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 Johnney Guinness  Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 
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How I learned about God - David C. Pack Almost everything I have learned about God in the last 4 years, I have learned it from one single man, and his name is David C. Pack. He is the pastor and head of the "Restored Church of God", and they are based in Wadsworth, Ohio, USA. David C. Pack and the "Restored Church of God" have a Youtube channel with about 170 videos. Each video is about 30 minutes long, and I have watched all of the 170 videos. I have watched some of the videos multiple times. Everything I have learned, I have learned it from watching David C. Pack's videos on Youtube. I like David C. Pack and his approach to teaching the Bible. He has the temperament of a kind of "Stern School Teacher", and I like that approach to teaching the Bible. That is why I keep watching his videos, over and over again. But what is critical about David C. Pack and his Youtube videos is that they are not "sermons" about Religion. He takes very confusing passages from the Bible and he gives it to you in plain English. He never gets theological about anything, so there is no deep theology!!. He never gets into that "deep spirituality" rubbish. He just gives it to you straight from the book, the Bible. But because he is at it for years, he is very good at interpreting the Bible. He can decode out stuff in the passages in the Bible that are very confusing! And critically, he backs up all his statements with direct quotes from the Bible. Also worth noting that a very large number of his videos deal specifically with the Book of Revelation, the final book of the Bible. He is very good at interpreting the confusing End Times scenarios. But he is not a Doomsday guy, he just tells it exactly like it is! That one man, David C. Pack, is solely responsible for bringing me back to God, and teaching me about God and giving me faith in God again. May God bless and protect David C. Pack and give him his rightful place in the coming Kingdom of God that will arrive on Earth very soon. Restored Church of God, Youtube channel; https://www.youtube.com/user/RestoredCOG/ - About 170 videos, each one is 30 minutes long. Restored Church of God, website; http://www.rcg.org/ Restored Church of God, Wikipedia; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restored_Church_of_God Book of Revelation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation If you have a puzzling question about some of the stuff in the Bible, David C. Pack has answers for many of the questions in his Youtube videos. David C. Pack is my Teacher, my Rabbi, and he has shown me the way to the Light of God's Kingdom. I am very thankful to him. My Teacher - David C. Pack;   John-Paul. 
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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I'm currently watching a classic set of videos by David C. Pack. I have watched these videos before, but its gripping stuff, so i'm watching them again. This is one of my favourite topics! The Beast of Revelation 7 by 30 minute videos. Total run time = 3.5 hours! The Beast of Revelation (Part 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2eAdbYvM2Y The Beast—Its History and Final Revival (Part 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZ3qzwLwuY The Beast—More Proofs; Great Whore Identified! (Part 3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCDbnuJiQo The Beast—666, the False Prophet and the Mark! (Part 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeALxunwRSE The Beast—The Mark, Connected to a Coming Martyrdom! (Part 5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OVQc_bS0Ak The Beast—The Mark Identified! (Part 6) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TROKXtraAQk The Beast—The Mark, Unmistakably Clear! (Part 7) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TICvI3hDSYI Also see, Book of Revelation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation John.
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Batter Up  Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 
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ID, I see your topics aren’t getting any attention and with all that is going on in the world I thought I would lighten it up. I looked at a video from your rabbi, The True Jesus—Unknown! At 5:54 he says that Jesus listed 5 commandments in Matthew 19 that we should obey. I’m confused as Jesus listed 6 commandants. 1 YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; 2 YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY; 3 YOU SHALL NOT STEAL; 4 YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS; 5 HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER; 6 YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF Can you explain the apparent contradiction? 
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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ID, I see your topics aren’t getting any attention and with all that is going on in the world I thought I would lighten it up. I looked at a video from your rabbi, Batter Up, Well done! You spotted a flaw in the mans script, seems he made a mistake. So I guess that proves David C. Pack is human after all. Batter Up, I asked you this already, do you think i'm the user called "ID"? Is that who you think Johnney Guinness is? I have been hanging out on these forums for a very long time, about 8 years now. John.
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Bob DeWoody  Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10
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Johnny, I know you have a different agenda than that of the man called I.D. Just as strange but different. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. ID: 1544105 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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So I guess that proves David C. Pack is human after all.Can we talk? The video was 30 minute long and less than 1 minute was Bible verses and not even complete verses. Jimmy Swaggart, my favorite, used to start his show with a few lines of Bible verse then it was all him talking. I was fascinated by his ability to control a crowd with singing, lighting and of course talking. I saw him at Madison Square Garden, he had New Yorkers streaming out of their seats at the end to be saved. He had shills throughout the audience to encourage people to go down. It was showmanship P.T. Barnum would be proud of. But from his messages, I know there must be people doing it at the moment on the forums, that is, having more than one account and posting messages as different people. This is one of the few forums where sock puppets are permitted. That is usually an immediate ban even if they behave. 
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, I have never seen Jimmy Swaggart in action. And I don't want to see him in action either. But i'm glad you enjoy watching him. Yes, I agree with you, David C. Pack can be very long winded and doesn't actually give you nice quick straight answers. Its like he has scripted his videos to make you watch the full 30 minutes to get the answer you are looking for. And you don't always get the answer. Either way, he is the best I could find on Youtube. And even though he is very long winded, he does something that other TV style preachers don't do - He backs up his statements with quotes from the Bible that you can check. And secondly, David C. Pack decodes out some of the very complex stuff that is described as Prophesy. And that is why I watch his videos. I need him to chain the stuff together and explain what the Bible is trying to tell you. This is one of the few forums where sock puppets are permitted. That is usually an immediate ban even if they behave. ???? I don't know what that means? John.
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Es99  Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 
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Batter Up, He means having multiple accounts. I think most people who have been on seti a while realise that you are not the same person as I.D. even if you share some of the same ideas. Just ignore anyone who says otherwise for now. If they have accusations to make they can present their suspicions along with their evidence to Fred. Although, I am not sure what the point would be as having multiple accounts is not against the rules. Reality Internet Personality ID: 1544125 · |
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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I have never seen Jimmy Swaggart in action. And I don't want to see him in action either. But i'm glad you enjoy watching him. He backs up his statements with quotes from the Bible that you can check.Swaggart was let go after the prostitution thing. As for Pack he doesn't back up anything he just talks and sells snake oil. Did you notice anything about the six commandments Jesus said we should obey? 1 YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER; Number 6 is not an old testament commandment. So are there 11 commandments or did Jesus say 1-4 and 10 are null and void? The ones about g-d and coveting. 1) I am the Lord thy god, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Jimmy Carter would be relieved about 10 being repealed.
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Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0
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So I guess that proves David C. Pack is human after all.Can we talk? The video was 30 minute long and less than 1 minute was Bible verses and not even complete verses. Jimmy Swaggart, my favorite, used to start his show with a few lines of Bible verse then it was all him talking. I was fascinated by his ability to control a crowd with singing, lighting and of course talking. I saw him at Madison Square Garden, he had New Yorkers streaming out of their seats at the end to be saved. He had shills throughout the audience to encourage people to go down. I got dragged to a Billy Graham show once. It was the same nonsense. I wasn't impressed myself, but I was surprised at how many seemingly sensible people went down to stage to get saved. There was a strange atmosphere in the place. Like mass hysteria. It was creepy. Reality Internet Personality ID: 1544127 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, You still haven't answered my question, which is, do you think that I am the user called "Intelligent Design" or "ID"? You have addresses me 3 times in the last 2 days by starting your message calling me "ID". Batter Up, in this thread alone, 2 pretty reliable SETI forum users have vouched for me that I am who I say I am, Johnney Guinness, that is, Es99 and Bob DeWoody. Both of these people know me from these message boards for years, and they know I don't change my user name, they know I don't change my Avatar, they know I don't change my SETI profile, and they know me very well from chatting over the last 8 years. Yes, me and the user who calls himself "Intelligent Design" are both Christians. But that is about all we share in common. And there are 1.2 billion Christians in the world. They are not all here on the SETI forums creating accounts and posting messages to confuse you. Lets be completely clear here - I don't promote the concept of Intelligent Design. Nor am I the user who calls himself "Intelligent Design", who is Robert from Illinois. I'm John from Ireland, and that is also my real name. John.
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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, I will take the word of others who say you are not. To be honest you may be Allie from Vancouver for all anybody knows but it's all good. What made me think you were ID is both you and ID got upset when your posts went off topic; posts that have a very similar theme.
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, Batter Up, If you were clever, you would know how to check up on a SETI user, but it seems you don't know how. Here is a message posted by me back in 2007, 1 Jun 2007 and I write the name "Johnney Guinness" in the message post; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=36825&postid=579499#579499 Its in a thread called "#####PADDY'S IRISH PUB#####", that was started by ME! Your an idiot Batter Up, you should learn how to use the internet. John.
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SciManStev     Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, Here is what I have been trying to demonstrate. This is a video, 8 minutes and 14 seconds long, by Bart Erhman. If the source of Christianity has been proven to be so flawed, how can one make so many determinations based on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ln-S7ZraUc Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1544254 · |
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SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0
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Here is more, just over 13 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNn7b_kz9dM Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1544258 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Batter Up, Steve, to be honest, you really do sound like you are looking for answers. You sound like you are actively searching for answers, like any good scientist should be!! I will help you to understand Steve, but only if you let me help you. Just don't fight me while I am trying to help you and teach you. Steve, yes, I 100% agree with you. Bart Erhman makes some really valid points in that video! And I agree with many of the points. Yes, the actual text for the Bible was continuously changing over the last 2000 years! So Steve, your right, and I agree with you, the Bible you buy in the shop today is probably very different to the very first original text that was first written. Steve, listen very carefully to this explanation; The changes in the Bible text is intentional, its NOT an accident!! Over and over again, the bible scriptures were copied by different scribes. But they all knew exactly what changes they were going to make. They intentionally changed it. So in effect Steve, I you went and researched it for long enough, you would find that there isn't a single copy of the Bible scriptures that is identical. Every single one of them are different. All of them, they are all different!! And its intentional! Steve, strange as it might sound, if you collected up all the hand-written copies of the bible that were written between 200 AD and 1800 AD, you would find that not a single copy is the same, they are all different. Do you want to know why? Warning - The answer is long and complex, but I will write it out if you want Steve!! John-Paul.
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Мишель  Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 
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Lol, learning the bible from hateful, racist bigots who think the EU is run by the Anti-Christ. Yep, mr David C. Pack's roots are not exactly the kind of roots most people would be proud of. You see, RCoG comes has its roots in the Worldwide Church of God basing its doctrine of that of its founder, Herbert W. Armstrong. And this guy was one nasty person. Aside from the obligatory homophobia common in a lot of fundamentalist churches, he opposed interracial marriage, believing that Western Europeans and by extension, white Americans form the 10th lost tribe of Israel and they need to remain racially pure. He also followed the idea that the EU is actually the Roman empire as restored by the beast/satan, he opposed divorce and members of his that had divorced and remarried were forced to divorce their second spouse because otherwise they would be living in sin. And then there is the tithing, meaning that he wanted his church members to give up about 30% of their annual income to the church (which of course, he was exempted from, causing him to live in wealth while his church members lived in relative poverty). And then there are of course his objections to Christmas and Easter. *sigh* its people like this David C. Pack and his mentor that give religion such a bad rep. ID: 1544279 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Lol, learning the bible from hateful, racist bigots who think the EU is run by the Anti-Christ. Yep, mr David C. Pack's roots are not exactly the kind of roots most people would be proud of. You see, RCoG comes has its roots in the Worldwide Church of God basing its doctrine of that of its founder, Herbert W. Armstrong. And this guy was one nasty person. Aside from the obligatory homophobia common in a lot of fundamentalist churches, he opposed interracial marriage, believing that Western Europeans and by extension, white Americans form the 10th lost tribe of Israel and they need to remain racially pure. He also followed the idea that the EU is actually the Roman empire as restored by the beast/satan, he opposed divorce and members of his that had divorced and remarried were forced to divorce their second spouse because otherwise they would be living in sin. And then there is the tithing, meaning that he wanted his church members to give up about 30% of their annual income to the church (which of course, he was exempted from, causing him to live in wealth while his church members lived in relative poverty). And then there are of course his objections to Christmas and Easter. Hi Michelle, Glad you could join us in the debate! But David C. Pack and Herbert W. Armstrong are both correct, the European Union actually is the revival of the Holy Roman Empire. And may I just add to that, they also say that The USA is the head of the Beast. They say that Britain and America are one and the same thing, the same people, and I agree with them, they are right. And there are lots of people who think divorce is a bad idea. And not every body thinks coloured people should marry white people. These are just simple facts. John.
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Michelle, On the Restored Church of God website, their most popular book is called "America and Britain in Prophecy" by David C. Pack. The book is in PDF format, and its free to download from their website. I read it, its a great book. Just don't order the printed copy, they might look for donations. But the digital book is 100% free to download. America and Britain in Prophecy - Book; http://rcg.org/books/aabibp.html (The PDF book download link is on the right hand side of the page!)  Read it yourself! Its very controversial!! But its a great read! This is the 30 minute video intro that tells you about the Book; America and Britain in Prophecy - Youtube video. (30 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT9DoOlEVYE And to be honest, I bet the majority of people never even knew that America and Britain are directly referenced in the Bible. In fact, America and Britain are part of the core text of the Bible, if you know how to interpret the Bible. John.
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Sirius B   Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7
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It's amazing how the Book of Revelations is used by many to snare the gullible! ID: 1544302 · |
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