Don't you read what is posted? The Jewish people were there for centuries & is a historical fact, & not one from a "fabled" book

Yes, but that doesn't give you the right to kick people out of their homes and from their lands.

Over 2000 years & the treatment the Jews received over that time is...

...& Europe has a "lovely" history of that treatment!

That is not an excuse to treat other people poorly.

So no comment on the Elephant? So they can kill as many women & children as they like...

...but when Jews do it, oh the indignation!

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That is not Israel it is Zionists

what is the difference ?

Zionists established a political state without the Anointed. Jesus was not the Anointed, the Anointed will come with power and glory to restore Israel and rebuild the Temple.

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Who kicked who out of their lands, I always thought places like Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Nazareth, and the areas known as Galilee, Samaria and Judea were Jewish places originally.

Don;t know how true this is but i herd that the Jewish people where not from that area but came from around the black sea area which is now Ukraine and southern Russia and don't have any claim on that land .This mite have been after wwII not shore

Was waiting for the above post.

Knew it had to happen :)

Yeah, it's always amazing on a topical discussion when one does not see that appear.

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Who kicked who out of their lands, I always thought places like Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Nazareth, and the areas known as Galilee, Samaria and Judea were Jewish places originally.

That's the other elephant in the room that many are too blind to see.

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If I was feeling nasty I would blanket an area about 400m in dia around the target with the whole battery.

If by feeling nasty you would commit a war crime then I don't think you have the slightest clue what proportionate response is. Geez man, you are waging war in one of the most densely populated areas in the world and you treat it like its the freaking Western front.

If I was feeling nasty I would blanket an area about 400m in dia around the target with the whole battery.

If by feeling nasty you would commit a war crime then I don't think you have the slightest clue what proportionate response is. Geez man, you are waging war in one of the most densely populated areas in the world and you treat it like its the freaking Western front.

You what? I'm minding my own business, happily married with a lovely wife & children, you fire a rocket at me because you don't like me because of my religion & that rocket kills my family...

..just what do you expect me to do? Sit down at a conference table & talk like gentlemen?

Get your head out of your ass & take a look around the world.

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You what? I'm minding my own business, happily married with a lovely wife & children, you fire a rocket at me because you don't like me because of my religion & that rocket kills my family...

..just what do you expect me to do? Sit down at a conference table & talk like gentlemen?

Get your head out of your ass & take a look around the world.

So you think its such a great idea to shell the immediate surrounding of the place where that rocket was fired from? Especially if that immediate surrounding consists of houses with families just like yours in there? You think the appropriate response to a tragedy on your side is to cause ten tragedies on their side?

And you think I should get my head out of my arse?

You what? I'm minding my own business, happily married with a lovely wife & children, you fire a rocket at me because you don't like me because of my religion & that rocket kills my family...

..just what do you expect me to do? Sit down at a conference table & talk like gentlemen?

Get your head out of your ass & take a look around the world.

So you think its such a great idea to shell the immediate surrounding of the place where that rocket was fired from? Especially if that immediate surrounding consists of houses with families just like yours in there? You think the appropriate response to a tragedy on your side is to cause ten tragedies on their side?

And you think I should get my head out of my arse?

Yep! War is hell friend & I've already stated this, if you attack another you suffer the consequences. This crap about proportional response is idiotic at best as all it does is kill. The best way to stop an attack is to make the other side know that it will cost them dearly.

After all, that is what war is!

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I gave you what was the proportionate response, and I carefully explained that.

Now lets get truthful here. Name one Islamic country that gives a damn about human rights, and then explain fully why you haven't started a thread about their actions against their own citizens and invited workers.

You were right you are an antisemitic.

+1

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So you think its such a great idea to shell the immediate surrounding of the place where that rocket was fired from?

Because you have to, that is the accuracy of such weapons.

Batter up i'm going to tell you a little story i am curios of your reaction .

Once upon atime there where 2 men whom had the name Jesus 1 was thought to be the Mashiach and even believed he was the son of god .
The other Jesus live near the dead sea and was married and had children .

Now 1 day the 1st Jesus went out into the desart and was said to be tempted by the devil and he refused the devils attempts or at least that is what we have been led to believe.

However there is a different version of this story .

The first Jesus went out into the desert and walked in the direction of the dead sea where he came apon the 2nd Jesus . Now after a time the 1st Jesus started to relise that he was not in fact the Meshiah and the 2nd Jesus was the real son of god after reading some scrolls. He then packed up and went back to Jerusleam where he started to perform miracles.

Now the proof of this can be partly found in the old testament where it tells of the coming of the son of the devil . He will be born of a immaculate birth and a great deciever

My how many wars how many deaths have been fought since the coming of Jesus and what a great deception to get 1/3 of the world to worship a new religion (catholicism)

I will end this by saying why would anybody want the end of the world to come as that is what will happen when Jesus comes back to judge us all only 120,000 will be saved so wouldn't it be better to live in piece and not have Jesus come back to judge us as that would mean we are doing the right thing pity people don't think these days and have eyes and ears and mouths closed .The good book does tell us all the truth is out there you only need to look

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Yep! War is hell friend & I've already stated this, if you attack another you suffer the consequences. This crap about proportional response is idiotic at best as all it does is kill. The best way to stop an attack is to make the other side know that it will cost them dearly.

After all, that is what war is!

The thing is that you don't suffer the consequences, 10 families do. Secondly, it should be abundantly clear by now that if Hamas shoots rockets, the Palestinian side suffers dearly for it. Hasn't helped one bit though. It never has.

I gave you what was the proportionate response, and I carefully explained that.

Now lets get truthful here. Name one Islamic country that gives a damn about human rights, and then explain fully why you haven't started a thread about their actions against their own citizens and invited workers.

You were right you are an antisemitic.

Okay, instead of leveling an entire village, you level just one street. Very proportionate compared to that rocket that landed in a field or that other rocket that your anti rocket shield shot from the sky.

And my apparent hypocrisy for not talking enough about all those other regimes that suck does not invalidate my points.

Finally, how exactly are you antisemitic when you say you think Israel is using a disproportionate response to Hamas? Where exactly am I criticizing Jews for being Jewish? Where is your proof that I only criticize Israel because they are Jewish? If you want to accuse me of antisemitism at least come up with some evidence.

Pure B/S & it was 144,000 not 120,000!

144,000

The problem I have with that is that over the 2000 years that has passed, what if there are (say for example) 544,000 all lived according to god's wishes...

...what happens to the other 400,000 that lived to his wishes? Don't they deserve a place in Eden?

Another example of the "excellent" work of god!

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Yep! War is hell friend & I've already stated this, if you attack another you suffer the consequences. This crap about proportional response is idiotic at best as all it does is kill. The best way to stop an attack is to make the other side know that it will cost them dearly.

After all, that is what war is!

The thing is that you don't suffer the consequences, 10 families do. Secondly, it should be abundantly clear by now that if Hamas shoots rockets, the Palestinian side suffers dearly for it. Hasn't helped one bit though. It never has.

As those Palestinians voted Hamas in by 80%, so they only have themselves to blame.

ok sorry Sirius it's 144,000 not 120,000 doesn't matter but i'm only telling a story weather you listen i don't care but don't say you have never been told this story you have now .

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So you think its such a great idea to shell the immediate surrounding of the place where that rocket was fired from?

Because you have to, that is the accuracy of such weapons.

No you don't have too. You don't have to use those weapons to respond. There are other responses, but in this conflict those responses are completely ignored. But violence doesn't have to be retaliated with more violence. Rockets don't need to be answered with heavy artillery fire.

All you do is play right into the dynamics of this conflict and ensure that it will continue for another few years.

Yep! War is hell friend & I've already stated this, if you attack another you suffer the consequences. This crap about proportional response is idiotic at best as all it does is kill. The best way to stop an attack is to make the other side know that it will cost them dearly.

After all, that is what war is!

The thing is that you don't suffer the consequences, 10 families do. Secondly, it should be abundantly clear by now that if Hamas shoots rockets, the Palestinian side suffers dearly for it. Hasn't helped one bit though. It never has.

For a graduate, you really do need to travel the world & get your head out from under...

Answer the questions posed about the elephants in the room. You constantly avoid those, so where is the indignation for the women & children killed on a daily basis in Iraq, Syria, Libya by their own people?

By failing to answer those & continuously spout crap about the Israeli's disproportionate response shows you in an anti-Semitic light.

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