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Message 1546205 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 5:40:07 UTC

Also the God of Islam promised the land to the Jewish people.


Could you elaborate on that and maybe provide us with a link?
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Message 1546211 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 5:45:56 UTC - in response to Message 1546205.  

Also the God of Islam promised the land to the Jewish people.


Could you elaborate on that and maybe provide us with a link?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75211&postid=1545925
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Message 1546222 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 5:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 1546211.  

Also the God of Islam promised the land to the Jewish people.


Could you elaborate on that and maybe provide us with a link?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=75211&postid=1545925



So now the Quoran is telling the truth all of the sudden? Hm..
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Message 1546225 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 5:55:09 UTC - in response to Message 1546205.  
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Also the God of Islam promised the land to the Jewish people.


Could you elaborate on that and maybe provide us with a link?

I found this:

WHAT THE QUR'AN REALLY SAYS
by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi

THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS
AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS


You have to realise that Muhammad called the Jews and Christians People of the Book
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Message 1546231 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 5:57:21 UTC - in response to Message 1546222.  

Hamas fired a missile that missed.

US and European airlines halt Israel flights

US and European airlines suspended flights to Israel's Ben Gurion airport after a rocket landed one mile (1.6km) away.

The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) ordered three US carriers that fly to Israel - Delta, United and US Airways - to halt flights for 24 hours.

Europe's aviation regulator is also urging airlines not to fly to Tel Aviv.

The suspension prompted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to ask the US to renew flights to Israel.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28427236
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Message 1546237 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 6:08:03 UTC - in response to Message 1546231.  

Hamas fired a missile that missed.

US and European airlines halt Israel flights

US and European airlines suspended flights to Israel's Ben Gurion airport after a rocket landed one mile (1.6km) away.

The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) ordered three US carriers that fly to Israel - Delta, United and US Airways - to halt flights for 24 hours.

Europe's aviation regulator is also urging airlines not to fly to Tel Aviv.

The suspension prompted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to ask the US to renew flights to Israel.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-28427236


4 Brussels Airlines flights to Tel Aviv were canceled here as well, too dangerous according to the EASA.
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Message 1546258 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 6:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1546202.  

Especially when the western media reporting is so incredibly biased against them. Most Americans do not hear the other side of the argument at all.

I will keep trying to present the view from the other side because that story needs to be told.

In doing so please do not spread propaganda.
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/8076.htm
I know it will be vary hard to get non biased reporting to quote. Anyone inside Gaza is subject to Hamas censorship.

Only then can there be some movement to finding a workable solution.

No. Only if each side wishes an end will there be a solution. Don't presuppose both sides wish an end, when that is not a fact in evidence.

Unfortunately if there was peace there would be an incredible power vacuum in Gaza and Hamas would be out of a job. Hamas is very unlikely to allow that to happen. They (the persons making up the bureaucracy) have far too much personally at stake to wish an end to the conflict.


You do know that your linked website is a Vital Component in the U.S. War on Terror don't you? I wouldn't expect much non bias there especially given the familiar names on the board of advisors, Donald Rumsfeld being one of them.
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Message 1546260 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 6:58:36 UTC - in response to Message 1546193.  

Worth a read.
Life — if you can call it that — under Israel’s Iron Dome


Looks like they still have all their body parts though.
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Message 1546282 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 8:34:14 UTC - in response to Message 1546260.  

Worth a read.
Life — if you can call it that — under Israel’s Iron Dome


Looks like they still have all their body parts though.

For which you might be grateful, you do know that it was Israeli design engineers that did the work for Intel's Core cpu's, taking Intel away from the almost disastrous P4 architecture. Die Preparation and some fabrication is also done in Israel.
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Message 1546286 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 8:45:55 UTC - in response to Message 1546225.  

Winternight it's a pity they don't read it just pray , or listen to the Mufti . The Qur'an doesn't say harf the things the Trouble makers say
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Message 1546288 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 8:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 1546282.  
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Worth a read.
Life — if you can call it that — under Israel’s Iron Dome


Looks like they still have all their body parts though.

For which you might be grateful, you do know that it was Israeli design engineers that did the work for Intel's Core cpu's, taking Intel away from the almost disastrous P4 architecture. Die Preparation and some fabrication is also done in Israel.



A success story I see... My granddad used to do business with Israelis for their salt by the dead sea.
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Message 1546292 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 9:03:28 UTC

You know nowbody ever talks about the Saudi's !!!

Where is Mecca ?
Where does the Hajj occur ?
How many people do it , how many at each event ?

Telling me people don't meet talk pehaps plan thing or exchange moneys ?

We talk about Iran ,Palestinians , blah , blah but why not the Saudi's !!

WHOM's nationality where most of the terrorist's and where did the money come from

It is still known as The Kingdom......
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Message 1546318 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 1546288.  

A success story I see... My granddad used to do business with Israelis for their salt by the dead sea.
Who are the "Israelis"?
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Message 1546319 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1545730.  

So what do you do then? Don't forget, responding to weapons fired at you is legal.

Let them continue firing their weapons, which is a war crime, at your civilians?

Be realistic, if the IDF did nothing, what would be the response within Israel?

I agree the only way is by peaceful means, but the first people who MUST put down their arms are the Palestinians. And the last cease fire showed they are incapable of doing that.

Get realistic, at the moment your way is only going to increase the bloodshed on the Israeli side.

Whether something is legal does not mean its smart or the right thing to do. For one, this strategy is utterly pointless. You don't hit your target, and unlike the rockets they fire and that are likely to end up in a field, you are likely to hit someones home and kill a bunch of civilians. All you do is make them hate you. And when they hate you, they want to shoot rockets at you. This strategy ensures that there is a group of Palestinians that will continue firing missiles at you.

And why not let them shoot missiles at you? Most of them get shot down by Israels rocket shield, and the ones that get through are most likely to hit nothing. So far, they only killed 2 people. Israel lost more people by sending in troops INTO the Gaza strip to destroy these rockets and the people that fire them than the rockets actually did themselves. Israels 'cure' is worse than the disease.

And sorry, but again, the Palestinians are not the only ones that break cease fires. This time it was them, other times it was Israel.

Lets get realistic. Lets look at the facts. The facts are that those Palestinian rockets are relatively 'safe'. The fact is that Israel has been trying to 'solve' this conflict with the Palestinians through excessive force for decades now and they are nowhere closer to a solution than they were decades ago. The fact is that Israels strategy will not result in peace any time soon. These facts lead to one very obvious conclusion, namely a new strategy MUST be adopted. You are right, we cannot expect from Hamas to initiate this strategy. So Israel will have to be the more mature one and initiate it, and then perhaps Hamas and the rest of the Palestinians will follow.
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Message 1546320 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:08:02 UTC
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Worth a read.
Life — if you can call it that — under Israel’s Iron Dome


Looks like they still have all their body parts though.

For which you might be grateful, you do know that it was Israeli design engineers that did the work for Intel's Core cpu's, taking Intel away from the almost disastrous P4 architecture. Die Preparation and some fabrication is also done in Israel.
Jew is not a pejorative term. I assume you mean Jews when you say Israeli and not Arabs who live in Israel.
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Message 1546321 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 1546318.  
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A success story I see... My granddad used to do business with Israelis for their salt by the dead sea.
Who are the "Israelis"?


The übermensch of Israel...
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Message 1546325 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:28:44 UTC - in response to Message 1546321.  

A success story I see... My granddad used to do business with Israelis for their salt by the dead sea.
Who are the "Israelis"?


The übermensch of Israel...
The master race? English please. If you mean Jews say Jews.
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Message 1546326 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1546319.  

This shows you don't do much research, the Israeli dome system cannot hope to shot down all the rockets fired from the Gaza strip. It identifies those rockets that are not going to hit urban area's and ignores them, and concentrates on those liable to kill their citizens and cause significant damage. Even then they have stated they cannot hope to stop all of those.

Before you start commenting on military matters, go and get some service in.
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Message 1546327 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:33:49 UTC - in response to Message 1546325.  
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A success story I see... My granddad used to do business with Israelis for their salt by the dead sea.
Who are the "Israelis"?


The übermensch of Israel...
The master race? English please. If you mean Jews say Jews.


Hmm...makes one think... So the Great War and WWII was all about the übermensch vs the übermensch? LOL!

[edit] I thought with your IQ, you could understand German, Batter up?
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Message 1546328 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:35:34 UTC - in response to Message 1546320.  
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Worth a read.
Life — if you can call it that — under Israel’s Iron Dome


Looks like they still have all their body parts though.

For which you might be grateful, you do know that it was Israeli design engineers that did the work for Intel's Core cpu's, taking Intel away from the almost disastrous P4 architecture. Die Preparation and some fabrication is also done in Israel.
Jew is not a pejorative term. I assume you mean Jews when you say Israeli and not Arabs who live in Israel.

I actually don't know if all the employees are Jewish, why should they be?

edit] According to the Israeli statistics office about 75% of the population is Jewish.
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