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Message 1540434 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 17:56:08 UTC - in response to Message 1540387.  
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The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?
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Message 1540454 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 18:49:51 UTC - in response to Message 1540434.  

The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?

Because it usually ends in frustration. Why am I here? How the heck should I know. It's enough to me that I am here, at least now. If, after I die I discover there is more, great but I won't be living the rest of my life expecting it.
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Message 1540459 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 18:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 1540434.  

The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?

I am trying to be as non-offensive as possible, and still give as correct an answer as I can.

It has been demonstrated that people, and in fact children try to put a purpose behind events. Recently, I saw a show that showed a craggy rock and some lions. The children were asked if the craggy rock was there so the lions could scratch their backs, or was it there naturally. I forget the exact number but at least 70% said it was there to scratch the lions backs.

This may have been a useful adaptation, as early man looked for resources, and decided that they could be used in ways other than simple objects. Even now, as I take on some home project, I will find a new purpose for some old piece of wood I was ready to discard.

I am not trying to scoff at others, as believing in an after life can be both helpful in remembering a loved one, or very dangerous in believing that if you blow yourself up and kill innocent people you will be rewarded with 72 virgins.

As for ET, I am going on the high probability that we are not alone, but I have no delusions. The search may never pan out, or it may take thousands or even tens of thousands of years if we discover anything. Given the current very limited way we able to search, I am not holding my breath, but I am a part of that search. In addition to that search, I have come to know people from all over the world, many of which I consider very strong friends. Some think the way I do, and some do not, but they are my friends just the same.

I realize I may be treading a fine line, but my intent is not to scoff at those who think differently than I do, but to point out the best answers I can, based on the information I have available. That information does not take sides, either for the grieving mothers, or desperate fanatics.

Actually, I would do anything I am capable of to help those I consider friends, regardless of how they think compared to me. Helping anyone is actually quite rewarding.

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Message 1540493 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 19:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 1540459.  

I am trying to be as non-offensive as possible,
There is no way this supposed forum can offend Batter Up.
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Message 1540541 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 21:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 1540434.  

The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?

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In simplest terms a person is an egg's way of making more eggs.
fail to reproduce and you are out of the game end story.
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Message 1540571 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 23:07:18 UTC - in response to Message 1540541.  

The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?

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In simplest terms a person is an egg's way of making more eggs.
fail to reproduce and you are out of the game end story.

I agree but how can one say what came before or what comes after. No one knows, they just assume.
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Message 1540574 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 23:11:06 UTC

All I do is follow the evidence as best I can, without caring where it leads. If I am wrong, then I will reverse course, and admit it. If I don't know, then that is a valid answer also.

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Message 1540590 - Posted: 12 Jul 2014, 23:54:58 UTC - in response to Message 1540574.  

All I do is follow the evidence as best I can, without caring where it leads. If I am wrong, then I will reverse course, and admit it. If I don't know, then that is a valid answer also.

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Of course we won't know if there is an afterlife until it is too late to confirm it with anyone else. It is purely a matter of faith.
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Message 1540648 - Posted: 13 Jul 2014, 2:28:36 UTC

A lot of you have watched freeman in his show Threw The Worm hole .
If you can remember the first couple of episodes there was a experiment with the GOD helmit which used a electro magnet to induce a out of body experience and also the sugestion the brain is like a Quantum Computer and we are all connected to the Cosmic computer .

So did she have a out off body experience ?

Depends on what you believe there are possible scientific reasons what happened to her was real

As for the operation that is most definatly possible the brain doesn't die for at least the first 4mins and this takes even longer if the temp is lowered enough and I have herd of other procedures using a simular method .

cooling the body before the op is becoming a routine thing to do in complicated operations
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Message 1541067 - Posted: 13 Jul 2014, 17:43:43 UTC - in response to Message 1540459.  

I am not trying to scoff at others, as believing in an after life can be both helpful in remembering a loved one, or very dangerous in believing that if you blow yourself up and kill innocent people you will be rewarded with 72 virgins.


Can't imagine they'd be too pleased about the very probable translation error this end... after all, 72 sweet white raisins has got to be a bit of let down surely?
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Message 1541086 - Posted: 13 Jul 2014, 18:13:31 UTC - in response to Message 1541067.  

72 sweet white raisins
Well that settles it; I would rather drink wine with Jesus and his dad than just get 72 raisins.
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Message 1541457 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 9:22:26 UTC - in response to Message 1540188.  

Let me see, you say that all the suffering in this life will get me a better place in the next life, I am suffering so sign me up.

Hey wait a minute how do you know there is a next life? O someone told you and what else were they selling?


As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)
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Message 1542834 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 0:21:52 UTC - in response to Message 1540541.  

The why are we here question does have an answer.
OK got it; it happens. You don't have a clue how it happened or what will happen next. You say there is no proof so it cannot be. There is not one shred of proof that ET is out there yet you search for him. Why scoff at those who search for a reason for being?

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In simplest terms a person is an egg's way of making more eggs.
fail to reproduce and you are out of the game end story.

Perhaps an over simplification, we may be social animals ...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1543091 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 14:20:17 UTC

Looks like I.D. will have to get resurrected again. May be he can shed more light on the afterlife.
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Message 1543095 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 14:25:44 UTC - in response to Message 1542891.  

Let me see, you say that all the suffering in this life will get me a better place in the next life, I am suffering so sign me up.

Hey wait a minute how do you know there is a next life? O someone told you and what else were they selling?


As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)

Bless you Julie.


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Message 1543110 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 14:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 1541457.  

As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)


You may remember I mentioned my friend who is battling cancer at the moment - well her daughter is now attending a Steiner school and the spiritual aspects of his philosophy and teachings are giving the whole family the peace of mind they were lacking before, so no... it doesn't sound silly to me at all Julie :) and I'm glad you still have contact with your soulmate :)
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Message 1543118 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 15:15:56 UTC - in response to Message 1543110.  

As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)


You may remember I mentioned my friend who is battling cancer at the moment - well her daughter is now attending a Steiner school and the spiritual aspects of his philosophy and teachings are giving the whole family the peace of mind they were lacking before, so no... it doesn't sound silly to me at all Julie :) and I'm glad you still have contact with your soulmate :)



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As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)

Not weird. Im utterly convinced I had contact with my best friend a few times after his death.
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Message 1543172 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 16:01:48 UTC - in response to Message 1543161.  


As silly as it may sound but I still have 'contact' with my deceased husband (not with my daughter, she moved on to a higher level of existence) (cfr. Rudolf Steiner)

Not weird. Im utterly convinced I had contact with my best friend a few times after his death.


A lot of people over here think I'm crazy when I tell them, only a few believe me, thanx Michiel:)
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Message 1543307 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014, 17:50:44 UTC

it's not silly Julie ever since my life hit the fan so to speak I have always felt my gran was watching over me and pulling back from that dark scary place I have visited just when I get to the point of doing something realy stupid gran has all ways taped me on the shoulder and stoped me .

She sort of brought me up so she is like my mother

I reakon it means you have a beautiful kind sole and those that think ya crazy don't have a sole at all
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