I'm not dangerous, but a pregnant woman in a car is apparently, I wonder what the difference could be...

Ferguson police tactics under scrutiny after woman blinded in one eye

No disrespect to the woman, but WTH was she doing driving around an area that is highly contentious? & pregnant as well? She got any brain cells in that head of hers?

Maybe she lives around there?

So? That doesn't answer the question!

However, she answered that question herself...

"I weren’t looting or anything. I was just out with my boyfriend. We were just riding around respecting Mike Brown,” she told KMOV."

So again! Where is her brain cells?

Are you suggesting that people don't exercise their right to free movement and association in case they got shot by the police?

Isn't that the very definition of a police state?

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Isn't that the very definition of a police state?

Haven't they declared martial law in that area?

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I'm not dangerous, but a pregnant woman in a car is apparently, I wonder what the difference could be...

Ferguson police tactics under scrutiny after woman blinded in one eye

No disrespect to the woman, but WTH was she doing driving around an area that is highly contentious? & pregnant as well? She got any brain cells in that head of hers?

Maybe she lives around there?

So? That doesn't answer the question!

However, she answered that question herself...

"I weren’t looting or anything. I was just out with my boyfriend. We were just riding around respecting Mike Brown,” she told KMOV."

So again! Where is her brain cells?

Are you suggesting that people don't exercise their right to free movement and association in case they got shot by the police?

Isn't that the very definition of a police state?

Not really! If you knew that while driving home with your husband & children & it came over the radio that one of the ways home is rioting, would you continue to drive that route or take an alternative?

It's not as if the riots in Ferguson just happened. Want to show respect? Do so after the area is calmed down & with no police presence - avoids all unexpected situations involving armed police.

What is forgotten is that all public officials, including the Grand Jury, owe the tax payers a duty to not waste money. It is also the job of the DA to find out everything he can about the defense case before it gets presented to see if he can counter it. So if it is obvious that a conviction can not be obtained, no matter if there is probable cause, your duty is to not interdict. Just like the hundreds of times a day a DA decides not to press charges with weak evidence. A liberal on his high horse can not process this kind of thought, because a liberal always spends the taxpayers money. Something tells me the riots would have been far worse after an acquittal.

What follows is 100% pure bile. If you find yourself agreeing with it, then your thought process are also bile infused.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/ferguson-liberalismraceobamahillaryclinton.html

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I'm not dangerous, but a pregnant woman in a car is apparently, I wonder what the difference could be...

Ferguson police tactics under scrutiny after woman blinded in one eye

A liberal who calls for more laws which means more cops being shocked to find out the police tactics are ugly?

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What is forgotten is that all public officials, including the Grand Jury, owe the tax payers a duty to not waste money. It is also the job of the DA to find out everything he can about the defense case before it gets presented to see if he can counter it. So if it is obvious that a conviction can not be obtained, no matter if there is probable cause, your duty is to not interdict. Just like the hundreds of times a day a DA decides not to press charges with weak evidence. A liberal on his high horse can not process this kind of thought, because a liberal always spends the taxpayers money. Something tells me the riots would have been far worse after an acquittal.

What follows is 100% pure bile. If you find yourself agreeing with it, then your thought process are also bile infused.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/ferguson-liberalismraceobamahillaryclinton.html

Great article. Totally agree with it.

I find your visceral reaction against it says more about you than the actual contents of the article.

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I'm not dangerous, but a pregnant woman in a car is apparently, I wonder what the difference could be...

Ferguson police tactics under scrutiny after woman blinded in one eye

No disrespect to the woman, but WTH was she doing driving around an area that is highly contentious? & pregnant as well? She got any brain cells in that head of hers?

Maybe she lives around there?

So? That doesn't answer the question!

However, she answered that question herself...

"I weren’t looting or anything. I was just out with my boyfriend. We were just riding around respecting Mike Brown,” she told KMOV."

So again! Where is her brain cells?

Are you suggesting that people don't exercise their right to free movement and association in case they got shot by the police?

Isn't that the very definition of a police state?

Not really! If you knew that while driving home with your husband & children & it came over the radio that one of the ways home is rioting, would you continue to drive that route or take an alternative?

It's not as if the riots in Ferguson just happened. Want to show respect? Do so after the area is calmed down & with no police presence - avoids all unexpected situations involving armed police.

She claims they were trying to leave the area at the time but were blocked in by the police.

Having been at protests before and seeing how the police behave I find this credible.

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What is forgotten is that all public officials, including the Grand Jury, owe the tax payers a duty to not waste money. It is also the job of the DA to find out everything he can about the defense case before it gets presented to see if he can counter it. So if it is obvious that a conviction can not be obtained, no matter if there is probable cause, your duty is to not interdict. Just like the hundreds of times a day a DA decides not to press charges with weak evidence. A liberal on his high horse can not process this kind of thought, because a liberal always spends the taxpayers money. Something tells me the riots would have been far worse after an acquittal.

What follows is 100% pure bile. If you find yourself agreeing with it, then your thought process are also bile infused.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/11/ferguson-liberalismraceobamahillaryclinton.html

Great article. Totally agree with it.

I suspected you would.

I find your visceral reaction against it says more about you than the actual contents of the article.

The reaction is about the inability of certain people to realize the differences between the laboratory of their thought process and the reality of implementation.

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I have always been border line for a hearing aid and far too vain to get one. However, I think my hearing has got worse and you are probably right.

Score +1

If you really feel the need to support me then add something relevant to the debate. Otherwise you are actually guilty of something called "benevolent sexism".

Score -1

Total score = zero

Some people might call it being a Gentleman, some people might call it being supportive to a friend. You may call it what you wish. I wish you good luck in your endeavours.

Being supportive isn't about coming in and telling people off with threats. I know you meant well, but I don't need a knight in shining armour. It actually undermines my credibility rather than supports it.

Byron was being supportive. He probably over did it and I worry if he can afford such generosity, but I know I am grateful and I am sure seti is grateful too.

I am well aware that I am one of the few voices of reason in this thread and apparently the only one who has done any studies in gender and race inequality and its implications.

I am also aware because of those studies how hard it is to shift these racist and sexist attitudes when those that have them aren't even aware that their views are being influenced by those attitudes.

A clear example is the willingness of those people to give the benefit of the doubt to a white policeman who fired 10 or so shots into a black man, but not give it to a black pregnant woman who was blinded in the eye by a police man.

Why does one deserve the benefit of the doubt rather than the other?

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She claims they were trying to leave the area at the time but were blocked in by the police.

Having been at protests before and seeing how the police behave I find this credible.

Well, never actually been on a protest, but did drive through one & avoided another. Driving through Brixton in April 81, the rioters showed some prudence in leaving our vehicles pass unhindered - Armed troops...

...as for the one I avoided, I was travelling back from the district hospital via the A1 in October 85 in a mini-bus carrying my mother & sisters home to Stamford Hill - dad had suffered a heart attack. Just passing WGC & it was announced on the radio that riots had broken out at broadwater farm & a PC had been killed.

So rather than return that way to the Hill, I went via Wood Green/Bounds Green onto Green Lanes then used back roads to get them home. No problems experienced.

However, on my return home, I got stopped by the police in St Anne's Road & their attitude left a lot to be desired, so cede that point.

On a personal note, I still say an innocent person should use their common sense rather than use the get out of jail card "Civil Rights" Knowing what the police are like & driving around to show "respect" in a highly contentious area is like shaking a red flag at a bull.

A White Man, Black Man, and White Woman All Try To Steal a Bike – And Only One of Them Is Stopped

• The white man was sometimes questioned but not stopped
  
• The Black man was immediately and constantly questioned with people reporting him to the police and taking photos of him as evidence
  
• The white woman had some friendly men help her steal the bike because they were just handier with tools than she was
  

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You are incurring my distinct displeasure.

ROTFLMAO

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

A White Man, Black Man, and White Woman All Try To Steal a Bike – And Only One of Them Is Stopped

• The white man was sometimes questioned but not stopped
  
• The Black man was immediately and constantly questioned with people reporting him to the police and taking photos of him as evidence
  
• The white woman had some friendly men help her steal the bike because they were just handier with tools than she was
  

This is very true...
We dont have so much racims to black peoples.
But muslims from middle east and the balcan states!

Study: Both Public, Police View Black Kids As Older, Less Innocent Than Whites

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If it had gone wrong and I'd been shot or hurt, I think the justice system would have done its job. I think a full investigation would have happened and the police officers would have faced charges for shooting an unarmed white woman.

A 5 foot - 3 inch tall, 115 pound women? Correct.

A 6 Foot - 4 inch tall, 240 pound women? No.

I was about a person much bigger, and stronger than the Officer, and therefore having the ability to physically disarm the Officer, and kill him.

Or have studied martial arts and the size difference becomes an advantage, especially with the forty pounds of gear a cop carries.

I agree. I worked with a woman who was a lot smaller than I was. That was back in my late 20's. She could lift 150 pounds like nothing. And she only weighed 125#. Then there is my wifes cousin she is mid 40s in age, Is about 5'8" and skinny. But she is a black belt in Karate. She works at the local high school as a resource officer. She has subdued a few male miscreants who have tried to fight her.
One who judges a persons fighting ability on size regardless of being male or female is a fool or dead.

Exactly. I am not a small woman either. I am 5'8" and I work out. So I guess I deserved to be shot for being roused from my bed in the middle of the night because of a prank call.

So far we have had 3 of those prank calls in my area. No one has been hurt yet. But its only a matter of time.
I dont like the fact that the police seem to be getting militarised. Some times its hard to tell if they are cops or soldiers going into battle.
I do not believe in police being abusevive at all. We had a case in the city where they tazerd a handicapped man for not sitting down on the bus. He had hip problems that made it to hard for him to sit and then get back up. He was arrested and charged with resisting arrest. A week later the DA dropped all charges and now the city is being sued. I hope he wins.
The thing is cops are human. Some,Are really great cops.Most are avgerage,Some lets face it are rotten apples.

Nobody should be shot while being arressted. But the person being arrested has to show some common sense also.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/us/cleveland-police-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Officers involved in a 2012 shooting in Cleveland are suing the city and police officials, alleging racial discrimination.

They claim the defendants have a pattern of treating non-African American officers harsher than African American officers, when it comes to officer-involved shootings of African Americans. The plaintiffs in the federal suit are not African American.

So white (non-African American) cops are treated harsher if they are involved in a shooting of an African American than a African American officer.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/30/us/cleveland-police-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Officers involved in a 2012 shooting in Cleveland are suing the city and police officials, alleging racial discrimination.

They claim the defendants have a pattern of treating non-African American officers harsher than African American officers, when it comes to officer-involved shootings of African Americans. The plaintiffs in the federal suit are not African American.

So white (non-African American) cops are treated harsher if they are involved in a shooting of an African American than a African American officer.

It will be interesting to see if that claim is actually backed up by the facts or just something Clyde would say when confronted about his racism.

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Answer: The White Liberal 'Bigotry of Low Expectations' regarding Black people....

I'm going to give you this one Clyde.

This is actually true. There is a type of racism of low expectations.

There you go.

You actually wrote something I agree with. It must be Christmas.

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To continue racist implications separate for the legal issues as we seem to be arguing two different things and talking past each other.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199

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To continue racist implications separate for the legal issues as we seem to be arguing two different things and talking past each other.
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=76199

They are not separate when the legal system has been set up in such a way that it disadvantages you if you are a certain race.

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