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Message 1559359 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 10:04:23 UTC

An interesting report

Is that where you Yanks are heading?
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REALLY? Did you read/see his news conference, with diagrams of wounds?

I saw an interview with one of the examiners and he specifically did not preclude that one shot was from behind.
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Message 1559552 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 18:29:07 UTC

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905
The Ferguson police officer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager suffered “a serious facial injury” in the altercation before firing the fatal shots, according to a source close to the officer who spoke to ABC News today.

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Message 1559557 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 18:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1559552.  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905
The Ferguson police officer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager suffered “a serious facial injury” in the altercation before firing the fatal shots, according to a source close to the officer who spoke to ABC News today.

Somebody sitting in a car & grabbed me by the throat would certainly have a facial injury to show for it.
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Message 1559575 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 18:52:07 UTC - in response to Message 1559557.  

Somebody sitting in a car & grabbed me by the throat would certainly have a facial injury to show for it.

Good to know you will strike a police officer attempting to effectuate your arrest.
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Message 1559579 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 18:55:04 UTC - in response to Message 1559575.  

Somebody sitting in a car & grabbed me by the throat would certainly have a facial injury to show for it.

Good to know you will strike a police officer attempting to effectuate your arrest.


Did worse, stuck an SLR in his face. Why? Stupid mutt wanted to stop my army truck (20 odd men in the back) & left me very very little space to avoid hitting his vehicle. 2 lads ended up injured.

Just because they wear a police uniform does not justify breaking the law themselves!
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Message 1559584 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 19:03:29 UTC - in response to Message 1559579.  

Somebody sitting in a car & grabbed me by the throat would certainly have a facial injury to show for it.

Good to know you will strike a police officer attempting to effectuate your arrest.


Did worse, stuck an SLR in his face. Why? Stupid mutt wanted to stop my army truck (20 odd men in the back) & left me very very little space to avoid hitting his vehicle. 2 lads ended up injured.

Just because they wear a police uniform does not justify breaking the law themselves!

Got a rule of thumb for you, do what the man with the gun says no matter how wrong, sort it out later.
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Message 1559586 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 19:07:34 UTC - in response to Message 1559584.  

Somebody sitting in a car & grabbed me by the throat would certainly have a facial injury to show for it.

Good to know you will strike a police officer attempting to effectuate your arrest.


Did worse, stuck an SLR in his face. Why? Stupid mutt wanted to stop my army truck (20 odd men in the back) & left me very very little space to avoid hitting his vehicle. 2 lads ended up injured.

Just because they wear a police uniform does not justify breaking the law themselves!

Got a rule of thumb for you, do what the man with the gun says no matter how wrong, sort it out later.


I had the gun :-)
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Message 1559595 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 19:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 1559592.  

I see that policing is in the top 10 jobs attracting psychopaths.
Eventually the reveal themselves in rather public demonstrations of their condition.
It's no wonder that sometimes when they assemble in a group they go to extremes when confronting peaceful demonstrators.


Yep! & using their free "get out of jail" card...

"I was in fear of my life".
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Message 1559738 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 22:18:15 UTC - in response to Message 1559552.  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-shooting-grand-jury-decide-october-charge-cop/story?id=25047905
The Ferguson police officer who shot and killed an unarmed teenager suffered “a serious facial injury” in the altercation before firing the fatal shots, according to a source close to the officer who spoke to ABC News today.


It is still amazing how all of this selective info coming from the police in this case. First the photo stills & video showing a young man, who at the time of their showing may or may not be Michael Brown, which the chief, at the news conference stated the Officer Wilson did not know and was not responding to that incident. Next came the matter of marijuana in Michael's system and nothing about how much, which again has absolutely nothing to do with the shooting. Now all of a sudden at the time that the grand jury is suppose to start we get this. The same grand jury that the County Prosecutor is allowing Wilson to testify. From what I can gather, a defendant has never been allowed to testify at a grand jury that could very well go against him/her. I take it that everyone saw the incident that took place in ST. Louis the other day with the shooting of a black man by 2 cops, THAT was the way Ferguson should have happened, with the police department telling what they knew at the time and also what they didn't know. There was no massive protest because the community was kept in the loop from the beginning.

If anyone is wondering why the black community doesn't want the County Prosecutor office doing the investigation and trying this case. His father was a Ferguson police officer who was killed on duty by a black suspect when he was a boy. The Prosecutor would have been on the force, but he can't because of a physical disability, so he became a lawyer, and he has a brother on the force. He even praised the police chief on how he was handling the case. There was a case last year where 2 black men were killed by 2 officers and no charges were brought. Just a week before Michael's incident, a black man was severely beaten, especially around the head. The officers had picked up the wrong man. These same officers arrested this man and charged him with destruction of city property, because he bled on their uniforms. And, there are many more cases like this. Would you trust this man or his office with this case?

REALLY? Did you read/see his news conference, with diagrams of wounds?

I saw an interview with one of the examiners and he specifically did not preclude that one shot was from behind.

That's Medical Examiner's speak. Dealt with them many times, during criminal investigations.

The trajectory, entrance/exit wound cannot be, at this time, scientifically determined, for ONE wound. Not the other's.

Still impeaches the witnesses' you supplied.


I disagree, until the rest of the evidence can be setup and examined, in conjunction with witness statements and direction and angles are determined can this wound be ruled in or out. This determination will be highly critical because of the way the arm and hand moves. This actually involves two wounds, the graze on the right hand and the graze on the arm. As far as the GSR, both on the car and on Michael's clothing wasn't available to the examiners at the time, the county has it. If the county doesn't give permission, Brown's attorneys may not know anything until the discovery phase, unless they get it from the federal investigation.


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Message 1559764 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 23:07:58 UTC

The Perp beat Cop Badly, almost to Unconciousness. As Perp was walking up the street after He Beat Cop, Cop got out of Vehicle, Perp turned around, Ran Towards Cop Menacingly and Cop did The Necessary Act.

Sorry, Cop gunna Walk.

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Message 1559765 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 23:10:04 UTC

Renisha McBrides's family sues her convicted killer for $10 mil.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/19/renisha-mcbride_n_5691484.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Cop In Ferguson To Protestors: 'I Will F**king Kill You'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/ferguson-cop-i-will-kill-you_n_5695748.html


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Message 1559770 - Posted: 20 Aug 2014, 23:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1559764.  

The Perp beat Cop Badly, almost to Unconciousness. As Perp was walking up the street after He Beat Cop, Cop got out of Vehicle, Perp turned around, Ran Towards Cop Menacingly and Cop did The Necessary Act.

Sorry, Cop gunna Walk.

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Where are these 3 witnesses, all we've heard are radio sound clips. Let them stand in front of a camera and answer questions from someone other than a friendly radio talking head. If he was beaten so badly, how was he able to get out of the car and focus enough to follow Michael down the street, hitting him at least six times killing him. I've been in combat and seen some unbelievable things that people do when they get shot and that's cause by adrenaline, but never seen someone who was beaten , get out of a car, follow someone down the street hitting him six times and killing him. But I almost agree with you on the fact that the cop will walk, but not for the reasons that you state.


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Message 1559795 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 0:24:49 UTC

On the original ...
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-chp-officer-beating-potentially-serious-charges-20140820-story.html
The California Highway Patrol announced Wednesday that one of its officers faces “potentially serious charges” for repeatedly punching a woman in the head along the 10 Freeway in July, an incident that was caught on video and posted to YouTube, causing widespread outrage.

In addition to turning its criminal investigation over to the Los Angeles County district attorney's office for review, the CHP also said that the officer, Daniel Andrew, had been moved from desk duty to administrative time off.
Related story: Activists seek civil rights probe into CHP officer's beating of woman
Related story: Activists seek civil rights probe into CHP officer's beating of woman

An internal investigation into the matter remains ongoing.


As I said at the beginning of this thread, the CHP is not the LAPD or the LASD.
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Message 1559800 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 0:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 1559770.  

The Perp beat Cop Badly, almost to Unconciousness. As Perp was walking up the street after He Beat Cop, Cop got out of Vehicle, Perp turned around, Ran Towards Cop Menacingly and Cop did The Necessary Act.

Sorry, Cop gunna Walk.

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Where are these 3 witnesses, all we've heard are radio sound clips. Let them stand in front of a camera and answer questions from someone other than a friendly radio talking head. If he was beaten so badly, how was he able to get out of the car and focus enough to follow Michael down the street, hitting him at least six times killing him. I've been in combat and seen some unbelievable things that people do when they get shot and that's cause by adrenaline, but never seen someone who was beaten , get out of a car, follow someone down the street hitting him six times and killing him. But I almost agree with you on the fact that the cop will walk, but not for the reasons that you state.

Now up to 5 witnesses.

He'll walk. Won't be a cop anymore. But if he got beat that bad, he got his bell rung and that is temporary insanity.

Now on the release of stuff .......
Hundreds of FOIA's are flying trying to pry everything out. Someone has to decide, can I deny the release of the information. If the information is not relevant to the investigation, then there is no reason not to release it. Ergo you get video tapes of robberies and levels of drugs put out. You don't get anything you actually want.

However the information of the cops injuries should not have been released. Doing so violated HIPPA! Someone needs to be prosecuted for that.
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Message 1559829 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 1:58:27 UTC - in response to Message 1559817.  

The Perp beat Cop Badly, almost to Unconciousness. As Perp was walking up the street after He Beat Cop, Cop got out of Vehicle, Perp turned around, Ran Towards Cop Menacingly and Cop did The Necessary Act.

Sorry, Cop gunna Walk.

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Where are these 3 witnesses, all we've heard are radio sound clips. Let them stand in front of a camera and answer quesnstions from someone other than a friendly radio talking head. If he was beaten so badly, how was he able to get out of the car and focus enough to follow Michael down the street, hitting him at least six times killing him. I've been in combat and seen some unbelievable things that people do when they get shot and that's cause by adrenaline, but never seen someone who was beaten , get out of a car, follow someone down the street hitting him six times and killing him. But I almost agree with you on the fact that the cop will walk, but not for the reasons that you state.

Obviously never witnessed how person's act when seriously injured.

Leaving aside Vietnam. Can't count how many persons walked/ran toward my police car stating (truthfully) "I've just been shot/stabbed!"

One actually Walked Steadily toward me, saying he had to go to the hospital because he was shot. It was SEVEN gunshot wounds. He died shortly thereafter.


How many of them was beaten senseless to near unconsciousness? There is a big difference between your examples and what some witnesses said happened to Wilson. If he was beaten as badly as they say, logic would be that he would be unaware of his surroundings or the strength to go after Michael. Putting that aside, I personally know a young man, here in Philly, that was shot in the head with a .22 and he was able to walk down three flights of stairs and flagged down a squad car. Luckily the bullet did not penetrate the brain, but ended up just inside the brain casing. Left one h*&&ll of a gouge on the inside of his skull. He survived and was up in about 9 months with some walking & talking damage. It took him another 2 years to walk right again, then I lost contact with him.


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Message 1559836 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 2:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 1559829.  

If he was beaten as badly as they say, logic would be that he would be unaware of his surroundings or the strength to go after Michael
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Cliff in my personal set of experiences that is not necessarly true, it is called mind over matter, I know because on several experiences I have done it. OBTW not a good place to be as I have seen it.
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Message 1559860 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 4:14:06 UTC - in response to Message 1559836.  

If he was beaten as badly as they say, logic would be that he would be unaware of his surroundings or the strength to go after Michael
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Cliff in my personal set of experiences that is not necessarly true, it is called mind over matter, I know because on several experiences I have done it. OBTW not a good place to be as I have seen it.


My bad, and I applaud you. BTW, if anyone is interested why we see cops differently then whites check this out even though it's being done via tweets, it quick and simple. Me, it would have been a long drawn out dissertation. http://www.upworthy.com/the-best-explanation-ive-ever-heard-of-why-black-people-and-white-people-see-cops-differently?c=hpstream%3Fc%3Dhuf1&utm_hp_ref=mostpopular


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Message 1559873 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 4:42:03 UTC - in response to Message 1559864.  

If he was beaten as badly as they say, logic would be that he would be unaware of his surroundings or the strength to go after Michael
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Cliff in my personal set of experiences that is not necessarly true, it is called mind over matter, I know because on several experiences I have done it. OBTW not a good place to be as I have seen it.

Was hit squarely in the head (no helmet) by a large wooden Police Barricade, throw over 20 feet, by a riotous crowd.

Didn't remember anything for awhile. But the other Police Officers said I then charged alone (stupidly) into the crowd, which parted.

Anyone saying someone cannot do something, after sustaining certain injury's: Has been watching too many Hollywood movies.

And not watching anyone after the standing eight count .....
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Message 1559885 - Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 5:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 1559874.  

If he was beaten as badly as they say, logic would be that he would be unaware of his surroundings or the strength to go after Michael
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Cliff in my personal set of experiences that is not necessarly true, it is called mind over matter, I know because on several experiences I have done it. OBTW not a good place to be as I have seen it.

Was hit squarely in the head (no helmet) by a large wooden Police Barricade, throw over 20 feet, by a riotous crowd.

Didn't remember anything for awhile. But the other Police Officers said I then charged alone (stupidly) into the crowd, which parted.

Anyone saying someone cannot do something, after sustaining certain injury's: Has been watching too many Hollywood movies.

And not watching anyone after the standing eight count .....

As the old saying goes:

When you find yourself in a hole - STOP digging.

Gary... Stop digging.

You seem to be having a reading comprehension issue tonight. I was agreeing with you.
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