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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why all the racial stuff? +many |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Why all the racial stuff? You seem to be completely unaware that black people are often treated totally differently by the police than white people. This is simply a fact of life for so many people. One of my first boyfriends couldn't run for the bus in his own neighbourhood without being stopped by the police despite being the son of millionaire executive in one of the UKs largest companies. He was the wrong colour. I've heard too many stories from friends about how differently they are treated because of their colour to not believe it. I don't think this young man would have been murdered if he were white. No matter what he was doing. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
The Police Harassment I've Faced Has Left Me With Psychic Wounds Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
In most everywhere else in the country, when you have a major shooting involving the death of a person the shooting incident report and the preliminary findings of the autopsy are revealed to the public by the authorities. This is done to give the family and loved ones some sort of comfort in the death and it has not been done in the case here. You never have anything released while it is under active investigation. Usually coroner's reports are sealed in such cases and everyone is put under gag order. The people want transparency in this investigation and there has not be any. And there NEVER is any until the investigation is finished. The investigation must be done in secret. We don't have trial by newspaper in this country! Hell, the family still hasn't been able to view the body yet. You mean they didn't go to the funeral home? That speaks about them. Now the FBI has the body, but that only happened after the family's shyster held a news conference. As far as complaints or internal affairs reports go, from what I have been able to learn through reports, any such complaints/reports are not inserted into an officer's jacket. They are inserted in the case file, therefore as far as the police are concern his/her jacket is clean. I can't speak to the policy of that police department, but the ones I've known, all complaints, dismissed or sustained, go in the jacket (a summary with the case number to find the fat file you talk about) First damn thing IA wants to know is has he been involved in similar incidents, check the MO! Something doesn't add up. I just wonder if the prosecutor has some forensic reports that contradict the alleged witness statements. It would be illegal to arrest someone if there is sufficient exculpatory evidence. Tell me you know what the forensic evidence says! If the cop is a guilty as you scream, then why hasn't the FBI booked him? Even if the locals are in CYA mode, the FBI isn't! Or are you telling me the locals are hiding evidence from the FBI?! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You seem to be completely unaware that black people are often treated totally differently by the police than white people. often not equal to always, so why are you assuming that there was racism? are you perpetuating a stereotype? |
Hev Send message Joined: 4 Jun 05 Posts: 1118 Credit: 598,303 RAC: 0 |
You seem to be completely unaware that black people are often treated totally differently by the police than white people. You really don't get it, do you? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
You seem to be completely unaware that black people are often treated totally differently by the police than white people. I do. Perhaps a lot better than you do. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
I just knew something wasn't adding up ... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28841715 Tiffany Mitchell, another eyewitness, recalled a similar narrative in an interview on CNN. She said that Mr Brown briefly struggled with Mr Wilson while he was still seated in the police car. During the struggle, Ms Mitchell says that the officer shot his gun through the window. So where the hell is the GSR that should be all over him if he was struggling with the officer at the car window when a shot was fired? Of course someone would have looked at the GSR pattern on the inside of the vehicle by now, Maybe the funeral home washed the body getting it ready for a funeral? Then the second autopsy? There is a book, "How to lie with statistics." I think we might have just seen "How to lie with autopsies." |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Grand jury will convene Wednesday. Federal autopsy is done. - Attorney General Eric Holder will travel to Ferguson, Mo. Wednesday. The FBI is also there. That is a long time to wait for justice. Edit: Officer Darren Wilson, shots were over-kill. If one shot went into squad car, five shots left. Autopsy by Dr. Baden, with six shots fired does not add up. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Getting away from all the racist spiel, has anyone stopped to see the scary issue at hand here? Was Michael armed? From all accounts so far, No! Cop grabs Michael while cop still in vehicle? Extremely bad move at any time! Cop shoots through vehicle window? Why? did he see a weapon? Bullets hurt. How many rounds in cops weapon? From the accounts so far, at least 7/8 shots fired with 6/7 hitting. After getting out of vehicle, did cop scan area for further threats/weapons? Doesn't look like it, instead "poured it on" as they say. So, to anyone with weapon handling & use, it looks like this cop was enraged, what & why is unknown at this time, therefore, IMV, Plain murder of an unarmed human being as from all accounts the phrase "in fear for my life" is unacceptable in this case. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Not to take anything away from the current serious story, but as the thread is about the attitude of cops & with the incidents already noted here... Irresponsible police attitudes - Is it becoming widespread? ...however, a final comment in the report highlights what many now believe... "But he added: "There is no place in policing for officers who abuse the trust placed in us by the public."" |
Daykay Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 |
I don't understand why the US persists with local law enforcement. Leave policing to the State and remove the biases of local policing. Also create efficiencies through centralisation and rationalisation. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Why all the racial stuff? +2 rOZZ Music Pictures |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I don't think this young man would have been murdered if he were white. No matter what he was doing. You think it is offensive to point out the obvious? How strange. A Black Man is Killed in the U.S. Every 28 Hours by Police Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A Black Man is Killed in the U.S. Every 28 Hours by Police The actual words Police officers, security guards, or self-appointed vigilantes extrajudicially killed at least 313 African-Americans in 2012, according to a recent study. This means a black person was killed by a security officer every 28 hours. Why did you misrepresent what was written? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
A Black Man is Killed in the U.S. Every 28 Hours by Police Sorry Gary, I know I'm awesome and very knowledgeable about stuff, but I didn't actually write that article or give it its title. Feel free to ask the correct people your question. Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting Reality Internet Personality |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
What They Saw: 5 Eyewitnesses to the Michael Brown Shooting It sounds like they are describing 2nd degree murder to me. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
A Black Man is Killed in the U.S. Every 28 Hours by Police See it was the headline writer, not you. But it sent me looking. Couldn't find 2012 quick, but did find 2011. 6309 blacks were murdered, that is nearly one per hour. Where is the outrage? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/murder-rate-for-black-ame_b_4702228.html |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Their account doesn't match the Family's Private Medical Examiner's report. I saw no discrepancy. |
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