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Message 1544325 - Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 13:26:15 UTC - in response to Message 1544319.  

During that time: My 'Beat' was 8th Avenue, between 40th & 42nd Street, for a few months.
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Message 1544638 - Posted: 19 Jul 2014, 23:00:13 UTC

I spoke too soon about the NY incindent not getting any attention; the Rev. Al is now community activating.

Is that Tawana Brawley he's hugging?


Rev. Al Sharpton leads calls for justice in NYPD chokehold death
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Message 1545012 - Posted: 20 Jul 2014, 19:29:07 UTC

http://abc7.com/news/nypd-cops-chokehold-may-not-have-seriously-injured-mans-throat/203167/
A man who died after a New York City police officer took him to the ground in a chokehold appeared to have little damage to his neck and trachea, according to preliminary autopsy results, a law enforcement source said, but that may not be enough to keep him from being disciplined or even facing criminal charges.

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Message 1545152 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 5:43:45 UTC

Meanwhile back in California;
California Highway Patrol investigators have seized the medical records of a woman seen on video being repeatedly punched by one of its officers on the side of a Los Angeles freeway.
Why do they need her psychiatric medical history? They are grasping at straws on this. Remember when they say medical records are private the are lying. NEVER seek help for a mental health problem it can and will be used against you.
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Message 1545172 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 6:02:53 UTC - in response to Message 1545156.  

Meanwhile back in California;
California Highway Patrol investigators have seized the medical records of a woman seen on video being repeatedly punched by one of its officers on the side of a Los Angeles freeway.
Why do they need her psychiatric medical history? They are grasping at straws on this. Remember when they say medical records are private the are lying. NEVER seek help for a mental health problem it can and will be used against you.

Seem silly to request medical records. They apparently have nothing to do with the Officer's actions.

They know they are in deep and are looking for anything to smear her. Remember when undercover cops were doing a sell and bust in NYC? A guy they tried to sell to didn't like drug dealers and when he started fighting them they killed him. They reported he had a juvenile offense as that is the only thing they could find. So much for sealed records. I can understand something happening in the heat of the moment but when it gets organized and thought out we have big trouble.
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Message 1545335 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 16:11:00 UTC

In the NYC incident the blame has shifted from the police to the EMTs. The EMTs did not do CPR or give him oxygen. 4 EMTs have been suspended.

The real blame lies in 16 ounce sugar water drinks Bloomberg wanted outlawed. How long does one expect to live weighing in at 400 pounds?
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Message 1545346 - Posted: 21 Jul 2014, 16:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 1545156.  

Seem silly to request medical records. They apparently have nothing to do with the Officer's actions.

Really. So how many bruises and where has no bearing on the case against the officer .... Oh the outrage, the doctors kept her mental records in the same file, so they must be trying to smear her.

A warrant. That means there is a judge somewhere who thinks the records are pertinent.

As to smear, it is well past the 72 hours and she still is in a mental hospital, I'd say we know what the result of the 72 hour hold was.
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Message 1545659 - Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 3:55:12 UTC - in response to Message 1545650.  

Seem silly to request medical records. They apparently have nothing to do with the Officer's actions.

Really. So how many bruises and where has no bearing on the case against the officer .... Oh the outrage, the doctors kept her mental records in the same file, so they must be trying to smear her.

A warrant. That means there is a judge somewhere who thinks the records are pertinent.

As to smear, it is well past the 72 hours and she still is in a mental hospital, I'd say we know what the result of the 72 hour hold was.

The medical record request is for her PAST history, prior to the incident.

Why would that be relevant to the Officer's actions?

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Chris Arevalo, executive administrator for psychiatric services at Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center, confirmed that the CHP served a search warrant Tuesday for medical records.

LA County-USC, 13th floor is where she would have been taken in custody.

Since she has been in custody before, they might have some "past" records.
Harper said the CHP took files that included statements to her doctor about how she was feeling and references to her attorney.

Attorney? Did she have an attorney in any of the other cases? As cash strapped as LA is, she would have only met her Public Defender the morning of her court date. Not going to be in her "past" medical file.

Sounds very much to me as if they were after the "current" records.

Besides, this wasn't served on Dr. Skid Row, out patient services.

Once they got this warrant, they foreclosed the possibility of going after her. If they had charged her, and she asserted a insanity defense, then they get all her medical files. If she didn't assert, then they can't have any. Since they now have something they aren't entitled to, the fruit of the poison tree kills any chance. So it has to be the cop they are planning on going after.

Her attorney is mad because he just lost his private records for the civil suit which he hasn't even filed yet. He would have only had to fork over tiny bits in discovery on that and could have hidden troves of material that would have harmed his case. Now his big personal contingency payday got tiny.
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Message 1545660 - Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 3:55:36 UTC - in response to Message 1545650.  
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Seem silly to request medical records. They apparently have nothing to do with the Officer's actions.

Really. So how many bruises and where has no bearing on the case against the officer .... Oh the outrage, the doctors kept her mental records in the same file, so they must be trying to smear her.

A warrant. That means there is a judge somewhere who thinks the records are pertinent.

As to smear, it is well past the 72 hours and she still is in a mental hospital, I'd say we know what the result of the 72 hour hold was.

The medical record request is for her PAST history, prior to the incident.

Why would that be relevant to the Officer's actions?

Edit; I may have read that wrong. She's still is being held for mental observations so I assumed.
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Message 1546074 - Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 22:59:53 UTC - in response to Message 1545660.  

The 51-year-old woman punched repeatedly by a California Highway Patrol officer on the side of a freeway this month has filed a lawsuit claiming the cop used excessive force and violated her rights.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/marlene-pinnock-punched-by-police-files-lawsuit_n_5600989.html

Maybe that's why they got her records.
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Message 1546099 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 0:12:56 UTC - in response to Message 1546074.  

The 51-year-old woman punched repeatedly by a California Highway Patrol officer on the side of a freeway this month has filed a lawsuit claiming the cop used excessive force and violated her rights.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/marlene-pinnock-punched-by-police-files-lawsuit_n_5600989.html

Maybe that's why they got her records.

Well she probably won't be homeless now.
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Message 1546138 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 2:29:53 UTC - in response to Message 1546099.  

Well she probably won't be homeless now.
Why? She won't see the money. Lawyers and her family will rob her blind. Nobody gave a pip about her before and they won't after.
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Message 1546256 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 6:44:25 UTC

Lawyers and her family will rob her blind


Not if she won't let them...
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Message 1546317 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 11:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 1546256.  

Lawyers and her family will rob her blind


Not if she won't let them...
She doesn't have the capacity to take care of herself; if she did she wouldn't have been wandering in traffic.
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Message 1546322 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 12:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 1546317.  

Lawyers and her family will rob her blind


Not if she won't let them...
She doesn't have the capacity to take care of herself; if she did she wouldn't have been wandering in traffic.


Poor girl...
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Message 1546342 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 13:33:10 UTC - in response to Message 1546256.  

Lawyers and her family will rob her blind


Not if she won't let them...

She doesn't have a choice. 1/3 goes to the lawyer, and he makes sure he gets his first or there is no lawsuit! about 1/2 will go in taxes. doesn't leave a lot.
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Message 1546356 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 14:05:51 UTC

Aren't law suit awards tax free because they are not profit but replace a loss like an insurance payment?
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Message 1546467 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 19:34:34 UTC - in response to Message 1546356.  

Aren't law suit awards tax free because they are not profit but replace a loss like an insurance payment?

If the money replaces a loss, like paying a medical bill, hers will be zero no bill for in custody treatments, then it would not be taxed. If it is to pay for her lawyer, then it is taxed (and he pays taxes too.) Homeless and mentally ill, I doubt she gets loss of income. That leaves pain and suffering and punitive, they don't pay for a loss so they are taxable.

California tax 12.30% + Federal 39.6% = 51.9% tax.
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Message 1546526 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:15:15 UTC - in response to Message 1546467.  

Aren't law suit awards tax free because they are not profit but replace a loss like an insurance payment?

If the money replaces a loss, like paying a medical bill, hers will be zero no bill for in custody treatments, then it would not be taxed. If it is to pay for her lawyer, then it is taxed (and he pays taxes too.) Homeless and mentally ill, I doubt she gets loss of income. That leaves pain and suffering and punitive, they don't pay for a loss so they are taxable.

California tax 12.30% + Federal 39.6% = 51.9% tax.
Plus she has to pay back all of the welfare she ever received.
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Message 1546538 - Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:34:55 UTC - in response to Message 1546526.  

Plus she has to pay back all of the welfare she ever received.

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