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Message 1547702 - Posted: 26 Jul 2014, 1:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 1547694.  

And you had better start worrying ...

Yes I am concerned.
In the mid term your previous climate is probably be what my part of the world will become, not a good thing for us moss backs.

You do understand that every fruit, nut, vegetable, chicken, cow, pig shipped out of California has a lot of California water in it? You also realize California supplies a huge portion of the food you eat. Are you getting a bit hungry yet? Wallet getting squeezed having food flown in from another continent?

Understand the sigh in Spanish and you will begin to understand the issue. There is water in California, but it is reserved for the delta smelt.


The average individual daily consumption of water in the USA is considerably higher than in many parts of the world. You don't have to live in it - fish do :)

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Message 1547723 - Posted: 26 Jul 2014, 1:58:02 UTC - in response to Message 1547702.  

Anniet, since the chart you posted ommited Switzerland and Canada to name 2 it is very incomplete. I'm reasonably certain those people use a lot of water per capata having lived with some of them in the distant past
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Message 1547735 - Posted: 26 Jul 2014, 2:17:28 UTC - in response to Message 1547723.  
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Anniet, since the chart you posted ommited Switzerland and Canada to name 2 it is very incomplete. I'm reasonably certain those people use a lot of water per capata having lived with some of them in the distant past


The graph I posted had the largest collection of comparable data I'd found so far but you're right about Canada - second highest per capita consumption. Will check out Switzerland for you whilst looking for a more complete chart or a site to post a link to (there was a Russian site - but it looked a bit... how shall I put it... skewed? :))

Edit: Not very specific - but might help for an overall view? :)


(last updated three years ago I think - apologies for the size - it's the Earth you see... it's quite big :))
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Message 1552908 - Posted: 6 Aug 2014, 14:55:25 UTC

Water ATMs bring clean water to Delhi. The government is charging to use a drinking fountain. Where is the outrage, where is the UN, where is Canada?
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Message 1553999 - Posted: 8 Aug 2014, 23:11:51 UTC - in response to Message 1552908.  

Water ATMs bring clean water to Delhi. The government is charging to use a drinking fountain. Where is the outrage, where is the UN, where is Canada?


My government charges me for clean drinking water. I pay taxes and a water bill. I have no problem paying for services received.

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Message 1554021 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 0:22:36 UTC - in response to Message 1553999.  

Es99 said;
Canada steps in to help our 3rd world neighbours who are living in a capitalistic nightmare.

Bill Walker said;
My government charges me for clean drinking water. I pay taxes and a water bill. I have no problem paying for services received.

Thank you Bill, I could not have said it better myself.
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Message 1554359 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 20:06:43 UTC

Es and I are saying much the same thing. Again, I don't see your point.

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Message 1554368 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 20:38:14 UTC - in response to Message 1554359.  

Es and I are saying much the same thing. Again, I don't see your point.

I believe Es is saying water is a right, not a service that must be paid for.
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Message 1554403 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 21:52:16 UTC - in response to Message 1554368.  

Es and I are saying much the same thing. Again, I don't see your point.

I believe Es is saying water is a right, not a service that must be paid for.

I am. Which is why paying through taxation is the best way. Those of us who can pay are willing to help those who can't.

I've never resented my taxes going to help people less well off than me.
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Message 1554428 - Posted: 9 Aug 2014, 23:26:24 UTC - in response to Message 1554403.  

Es and I are saying much the same thing. Again, I don't see your point.

I believe Es is saying water is a right, not a service that must be paid for.

I am. Which is why paying through taxation is the best way. Those of us who can pay are willing to help those who can't.

I've never resented my taxes going to help people less well off than me.

The only thing I haven't see you address is if you think there should be a water meter to measure use.
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Message 1554444 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 0:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 1554403.  

Which is why paying through taxation is the best way..
Why should I pay for some rich guy to fill his olympic sized pool and water his ten acre estate or some slob that is too lazy to fix a leaking faucet? There is a reason water is billed by the gallon.

Why aren't you people bringing water to the Yazidis who are dying as I type? I'm sure the Rev. Al will lead the charge to save the oppressed. Show the world you have courage and are not just pandering to the popular ignorance.
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Message 1554448 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 0:42:56 UTC

Here in Florida most utilities that provide water service are also responsible for treating wastewater. A good portion of the water bill goes to pay for treating the wastewater. Our water service is metered and we are billed accordingly. I agree with batterup here and think that paying for what you use is fairer than paying through taxes.
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Message 1554454 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 1:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 1554448.  

Here in Florida most utilities that provide water service are also responsible for treating wastewater.
That's how my town does it. The rich pay more because they use more water that never goes to the treatment plant lawn watering and pool filling for example.
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Message 1554465 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 2:43:31 UTC

The answer to all these questions in the 21st century is a balanced mix of classical free enterprise and (don't look Amur'cans) socialism. That is what Es and I are saying. Yes, pay what you can, through taxes and water bills based on usage (that handles your rich guy with a swimming pool quite nicely). If an individual can't pay, socialism says their neighbours will help them. If a corporation can't pay, capitalism says time for the aforementioned corporation to go. Corporations are like street cars, there will be another one along in a few minutes.

Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.

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Message 1554467 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 2:49:58 UTC - in response to Message 1554465.  

Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
So no water for the Yazidis only political posturing in Detroit?
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Message 1554473 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 3:00:57 UTC - in response to Message 1554467.  

Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
So no water for the Yazidis only political posturing in Detroit?


The Canadian position is quite clear. The US is bombing Iraq again, are you suggesting that is a better solution?

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Message 1554488 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 4:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1554473.  
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The Canadian position is quite clear. The US is bombing Iraq again, are you suggesting that is a better solution?
That is a low cost answer to the situation. If everbody did that nothing would be done.
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Message 1554496 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 4:48:18 UTC - in response to Message 1554473.  

Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
So no water for the Yazidis only political posturing in Detroit?


The Canadian position is quite clear. The US is bombing Iraq again, are you suggesting that is a better solution?

Yes, I see Canada's position quite clearly ...
http://globalnews.ca/news/1500138/ottawa-wont-let-injured-gaza-children-come-to-canada-for-treatment/
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Message 1554615 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 16:40:44 UTC - in response to Message 1554496.  
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Yes, even Amur'ca realizes this, and is implementing a logical rational mix of socialism and capitalism, in some areas. Get used to it.
So no water for the Yazidis only political posturing in Detroit?


The Canadian position is quite clear. The US is bombing Iraq again, are you suggesting that is a better solution?

Yes, I see Canada's position quite clearly ...
http://globalnews.ca/news/1500138/ottawa-wont-let-injured-gaza-children-come-to-canada-for-treatment/


Could you be mistaking a city for a country? This link was at the bottom of the page you linked to...

Ontario will treat children injured in Gaza, Health Minister says

As to the suffering of the Yazidi in Iraq :( supplies I believe have and will continue to be dropped for them - including water - but how many different nation's planes do you reckon it's safe to have up at once all dropping supplies on the same mountain? I do hope MUCH more than that can be done for them though...
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Message 1554629 - Posted: 10 Aug 2014, 17:10:30 UTC - in response to Message 1554615.  

http://globalnews.ca/news/1500138/ottawa-wont-let-injured-gaza-children-come-to-canada-for-treatment/
Could you be mistaking a city for a country? This link was at the bottom of the page you linked to...

Ontario will treat children injured in Gaza, Health Minister says

Last I checked Ottawa was the capital ......
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