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Message 1541222 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 0:15:22 UTC - in response to Message 1541217.  

I'm sure that just like Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi you have just misspoken. Isn't that right? :-)

ID so you now agree that corporations are people because SCOTUS said so?
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Message 1541224 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 0:17:06 UTC - in response to Message 1541222.  

I'm sure that just like Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi you have just misspoken. Isn't that right? :-)

ID so you now agree that corporations are people because SCOTUS said so?

Does that mean that when a company goes into receivership it is being murdered???
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Message 1541229 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 0:25:46 UTC

Sigh, ID. They are foreigners. They don't understand.

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Message 1541272 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 2:14:09 UTC - in response to Message 1541165.  
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Whatever a woman decides, it should absolutely be her choice. I still remember the young girl from Ireland I men when I was about 17. She was younger than me and she came to work at the shop where my friend worked. She showed us her stretch marks and told us about the baby she had just recently had to give up. It was the saddest thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately being from Ireland she could not choose an abortion. Her family had made the choice for her and then sent her away. I will never forget her tragic, heartbreaking story.

It should have been her choice, but other people had made the choice for her.


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Ah yes... the sending away... sometimes to a "private" asylum for insisting on wanting to keep her baby, or more often to the Magdalene Asylums, Institutions and Laundries - last of which closed in 1996. Some of these women were not released until they were in their eighties. Now that is inconvenient.
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Message 1541295 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 3:35:39 UTC - in response to Message 1541271.  

I doubt that InDe is trying to convince anyone of anything.
You have to appreciate his predicament.
A devout practising Catholic, who may get it right some day, in a church where
20 percent don't believe in god, and 50 percent are in favour of abortion.
InDE has a great deal of self-righteousness and moral superiority bottled up
which he can't rightly unleash on his fellow Catholics, so as a therapeutic
measure he seeks release where the repercussions are minimal.
90 % of his posts are claims of, moral superiority, superior understanding, victory, and being misunderstood.
InDe is getting exactly what he's looking for, the chance to unburden himself of
aggression in a non-destructive fashion.
All you therapists are doing a great job, and may be getting some benefit in return.

Nah, my thoughts are more about obsessive compulsive disorder and possibly psychosis.
He really should seek out a mental health professional.
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Message 1541322 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 4:58:59 UTC

Ask Michelle Knight if rape results in pregnancy. I think she is more qualified as an expert on this subject than anyone.
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Message 1541331 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 5:27:30 UTC

while reproduction is cyclic and the % of sex resulting in pregnancies is small,
remember there is a name for people that use the cycle method of birth control,
they are called parents.
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Message 1541454 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 9:09:17 UTC - in response to Message 1541206.  

The SCOTUS didn't disagree with me. They in fact agreed with me, got there by different means but never the less agreed. You won't convince others who disagree with your viewpoint, the law has spoken, why don't you quit posting on this subject. You are going nowhere with this, move on.

Nope. Roe vs Wade has not been overturned, and SCOTUS so far has never said that life begins at conception and that a clump of cells therefor has the same rights as a human being.
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Message 1541461 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 9:48:54 UTC
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Message 1541666 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 19:50:46 UTC - in response to Message 1541454.  
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The SCOTUS didn't disagree with me. They in fact agreed with me, got there by different means but never the less agreed. You won't convince others who disagree with your viewpoint, the law has spoken, why don't you quit posting on this subject. You are going nowhere with this, move on.

Nope. Roe vs Wade has not been overturned, and SCOTUS so far has never said that life begins at conception and that a clump of cells therefor has the same rights as a human being.

Jan 22nd 1973.

Come-on, get with the times! Science has changed! We know more and have come to the understanding that once the potentional has been met with the resulting zygote we have a unique human being..., ...will be the argument in the SCOTUS.
Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
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Message 1541672 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:06:08 UTC - in response to Message 1541666.  

zygote we have a unique human being

Zygote is spelled differently than human being in order to differentiate that they are not the same thing.
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Message 1541673 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:12:47 UTC - in response to Message 1541666.  

Jan 22nd 1973.

Come-on, get with the times! Science has changed! We know more and have come to the understanding that once the potentional has been met with the resulting zygote we have a unique human being..., ...will be the argument in the SCOTUS.

There is absolutely no scientific basis that suggests that life begins at conception or that a zygote is 'alive'.
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Message 1541708 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:45:26 UTC - in response to Message 1541673.  

Jan 22nd 1973.

Come-on, get with the times! Science has changed! We know more and have come to the understanding that once the potentional has been met with the resulting zygote we have a unique human being..., ...will be the argument in the SCOTUS.

There is absolutely no scientific basis that suggests that life begins at conception or that a zygote is 'alive'.

Unique Human DNA, get with the program...
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Message 1541711 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:47:30 UTC

United States Constitution wrote:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


translation...

Congress, shall not establish a Faith at the federal level, or disallow a state to have theirs, the federal government shall not disallow any individual the right to speak and address congress and the same applies to the press, the people have the right to join together in any form they seem to want or need, and the one as well as a whole state can fully address the federal government to make or remove laws as seen fit by the people or group of people.

Do I believe a group of people are one person? No. Do I agree with laws that allow a corp to say it's a person? No.

Do I agree a group of like minded people can band together and make a law? Yes. Do I agree with a laws that allow a group of people to band together and make a allow? Yes.

I have been very clear as to what a human being is and is not. A person is a person from conseption to natural death.

Your B*llsh!t arguments and putting words into my mouth that I did not use is just what I have stated, B*llsh!t... Hollow arguments with no logic and the placing of bad ethics along with poor science is the topping on this roadapple pie you have all made. The Causal Agent always shockes me with new people that have the art of stacking sh!t higher and higher. I assume there is a limit of this stacking but as of yet I see no end.

Where the left goes wrong with this wacky logic is how to define what life is. It must to the far left look like a human. They banter the word racism all the time but are racist to life itself, you must look human to be human, racism of HUMAN LIFE, because of LOOKS?!!

The right goes wrong by putting that human life at risk for no reason. With no regard for rule of law, we have national interests overseas that we must attend to by killing others for our cause of exporting our ideals, of, rule of law! LMAO! Yes, bin laden needed lead to the head, no doubt. But it would have been better off for all of us if we did it like the IDF after the olympic killings of the Jewish people. We have NO INTEREST overseas other then free and open trade, our first president was very clear about this with his goodbye speech after his second shot at the big seat. Follow your founders and you wont go wrong as many times as we have of late...

So, here I am once again in the center, clingging onto life and what a life is. I'm center, you are either left or right of me but you for sure are not center with me. I don't go for the shell game, or three card monty. I go for the sure bet everytime. I make no mistake when life matters. I side with life and that makes me center and you with the wacky ethics of either side, on the wrong side of the argument. Try morals, look into your heart, the morals you was born with. And don't give in to bad science and ethics of the day.
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Message 1541714 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 1541673.  
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There is absolutely no scientific basis that suggests that life begins at conception or that a zygote is 'alive'.
The egg and sperm are alive even before they unite. There is some discussion about whether a virus is alive. Anyway it is not what you think it is what the people who have to pay to end that life think.

You do and think as you like. Why do you want to force what you think on others? Water to Detroit, abortifacients to Hobby Lobby. Get on it as talk is cheep.

Unique Human DNA, get with the program...
Don't get them started on toenails again.
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Message 1541716 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 1541708.  

Unique Human DNA, get with the program...

And you think they didn't know that already in 1973? The thing is, unique human DNA does not equal 'life'. A corpse also has unique human DNA, but since corpses are by definition dead, they also no longer have the same rights as a human that is alive.

Again, your DNA argument has no merit.
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Message 1541719 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 1541714.  

The egg and sperm are alive even before they unite. There is some discussion about whether a virus is alive.

Eggs and sperm are under no definition 'alive'. And viruses are not alive either.


Don't get them started on toenails again.

I used corpses this time. Thought I mixed this up a little.
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Message 1541746 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 21:44:55 UTC - in response to Message 1541719.  

The egg and sperm are alive even before they unite. There is some discussion about whether a virus is alive.

Eggs and sperm are under no definition 'alive'. And viruses are not alive either.


Don't get them started on toenails again.

I used corpses this time. Thought I mixed this up a little.
Just as lovely.
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Message 1541754 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 21:56:49 UTC - in response to Message 1541716.  

Unique Human DNA, get with the program...

And you think they didn't know that already in 1973? The thing is, unique human DNA does not equal 'life'. A corpse also has unique human DNA, but since corpses are by definition dead, they also no longer have the same rights as a human that is alive.

Again, your DNA argument has no merit.

Have you read the argument? LMAO! No, would be the answer...
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Message 1541755 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 21:58:39 UTC - in response to Message 1541719.  

The egg and sperm are alive even before they unite. There is some discussion about whether a virus is alive.

Eggs and sperm are under no definition 'alive'. And viruses are not alive either.


Don't get them started on toenails again.

I used corpses this time. Thought I mixed this up a little.


It would seem the case is closed as far as to them believers goes. And will soon be closed altogether when the Sisters get their day in court. And then the DNA argument will shut down all abortions soon. Get with the program... ;-)
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