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Message 1536454 - Posted: 5 Jul 2014, 15:55:44 UTC
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None here have done a single thing to make me think they have used their minds at all.

I set them all back and then they have gone off to bury what I defeated them with on the first page of this thread.

None read the majority opinion, or fully read the minority opinion. Yet all feel like they are expert enough to form and deliver their own opinion.

I have noticed over the years that everyone who favors abortion wasn't ABORTED THEMSELVES.

I have noticed over the years that people who would celebrate life found on another planet, even one celled life, seem not to respect human life when human life is nothing more then a zygote. It's not a life, it's just a bunch of cells. Their logic is so wacked up it more then defies logic... ...it defies common sense.
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Message 1536488 - Posted: 5 Jul 2014, 17:57:55 UTC - in response to Message 1536454.  

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I have noticed over the years that everyone who favors abortion wasn't ABORTED THEMSELVES.


Oh you do come out with some ridiculous things sometimes.

There is no such thing as being "Pro-Abortion". Where did you get such a stupid idea from?? LMAO.

I bet you imagine that women like me go out and deliberately get pregnant so we can pop down the clinic and have a nice fun abortion. Just for something to do, you know.


I have noticed over the years that people who would celebrate life found on another planet, even one celled life, seem not to respect human life when human life is nothing more then a zygote. It's not a life, it's just a bunch of cells. Their logic is so wacked up it more then defies logic... ...it defies common sense.

You respect a ball of cells more than you respect the woman it belongs to. That defies common sense. If you value human cells from a women so much, I'll send you my toenail clippings. You can even name them.
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Message 1536493 - Posted: 5 Jul 2014, 18:18:38 UTC

I bet you imagine that women like me go out and deliberately get pregnant so we can pop down the clinic and have a nice fun abortion. Just for something to do, you know.


Yep. Purposely having sex. Purposely becoming pregnant. Aborting Fetus Purposely.

Name the dead fetus.

I name 'it' Flipper. dA Porpoise.

Respectfully, The UnAborted One who Should have been.

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Message 1536496 - Posted: 5 Jul 2014, 18:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1536493.  

I bet you imagine that women like me go out and deliberately get pregnant so we can pop down the clinic and have a nice fun abortion. Just for something to do, you know.


Yep. Purposely having sex.


Yes! I've done this. I bet you have too! Woman have sex. I guess you know this unless you think all those men having sex are having it with other men?


Purposely becoming pregnant.


Once yes, the other time..well..it was a surprise.

Aborting Fetus Purposely.


I have been fortunate enough that I never had to make that decision. It would have been a very hard one. I have so much respect for any woman that comes to that point in her life and is forced to make that hard choice. They must have their reasons. It is a decision that should be between a woman and her doctor. No one else has the right to be involved. Especially people who don't even understand what is involved.

Name the dead fetus.

Go look up these words, Embryo, blastocyst and fetus. You might learn something.

I name 'it' Flipper. dA Porpoise.

Respectfully, The UnAborted One who Should have been.

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Message 1536676 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 6:18:56 UTC - in response to Message 1536488.  
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..., I'll send you my toenail clippings.
This is starting to sound like some of the other sites I frequent. What other items are you offering for sale?

Aborting Fetus Purposely.
It is a decision that should be between a woman and her doctor. No one else has the right to be involved.
There you go again. Hobby Lobby DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED, you people forced their hand by dragging them into this. It is all part of your choreographed agenda.
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Message 1536718 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 8:16:31 UTC - in response to Message 1536488.  

I bet you imagine that women like me go out and deliberately get pregnant so we can pop down the clinic and have a nice fun abortion. Just for something to do, you know.

I guess some people still haven't realized the Onion is fake news :)

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Message 1536720 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 8:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 1536676.  
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There you go again. Hobby Lobby DOES NOT WANT TO GET INVOLVED, you people forced their hand by dragging them into this. It is all part of your choreographed agenda.

Ehm, you realize that this ruling does not cover abortions. Hobby Lobby does not pay for that. This is about anti conception which Hobby Lobby really really believes is the same as an abortion. Of course, every expert and person with some common sense knows this is nonsense, the things they objected to have nothing to do with abortion.

And really, if these people hate abortions so much, they gotta love the pill. After all, the best way to avoid abortions is by ensuring that women have the ability to avoid pregnancy altogether if they don't want or aren't ready for a baby. Indirectly, Hobby Lobby has achieved that a lot more women are going to need abortions because they don't have access to their anti conception anymore.
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Message 1536734 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 8:46:38 UTC - in response to Message 1536720.  

This is about anti conception which Hobby Lobby really really believes is the same as an abortion. Of course, every expert and person with some common sense knows this is nonsense, the things they objected to have nothing to do with abortion.
Let me see, who do I believe an unknown poster from who knows where or the Supreme Court of the United States of America, tough choice but I have to go with the SCOTUS who say Plan-B is an abortifacient. Abortifacient the word of the week.
So is your testamentary the items in question will NEVER cause a fertilized egg to fail to implant?
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Message 1536749 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 9:40:26 UTC - in response to Message 1536734.  

Let me see, who do I believe an unknown poster from who knows where or the Supreme Court of the United States of America, tough choice but I have to go with the SCOTUS who say Plan-B is an abortifacient. Abortifacient the word of the week.
So is your testamentary the items in question will NEVER cause a fertilized egg to fail to implant?

You don't go with the SCOTUS's opinion, you go with the majority opinion of exactly 5 males who made this ruling. Or do you take the dissenting opinion into account which specifically refers to the fact that those five judges made a ruling while ignoring the actual science and that they are essentially a bunch of idiots for doing this?

And plan-b generally prevents fertilization to begin with. But sure, sometimes it also prevents a fertilized egg to implant. Thats not the same as abortion. Unless of course, you define life beginning at fertilization. But again, that definition has no basis in science or law.
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Message 1536754 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 9:56:14 UTC - in response to Message 1536749.  

And plan-b generally prevents fertilization to begin with. But sure, sometimes it also prevents a fertilized egg to implant. Thats not the same as abortion.
Excellent we agree on what it does. You people push and go over the line. When you do that moderates like Batter Up distance themselves from you and elect a Bush or Reagan. Is that what you want? As it stands now you will be lucky to get Chris Christie, forget about Hillery Clinton. The pendulum is swinging right and it won't stop in the next two years.
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Message 1536776 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 11:44:44 UTC - in response to Message 1536754.  

Excellent we agree on what it does. You people push and go over the line. When you do that moderates like Batter Up distance themselves from you and elect a Bush or Reagan. Is that what you want? As it stands now you will be lucky to get Chris Christie, forget about Hillery Clinton. The pendulum is swinging right and it won't stop in the next two years.

If you think that plan-B is like abortion you are not a moderate to begin with.

And it remains to be seen if the pendulum swings to the right. To the best of my knowledge, women can vote in the US and supporting these kind of measures is not a good way to convince them that the right has the best interests of women in mind.
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Message 1536800 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 14:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 1536797.  

You don't go with the SCOTUS's opinion, you go with the majority opinion of exactly 5 males who made this ruling.

Stop with the Sexist, anti-male rants.

How is that anti male or sexist? Its a fact that the 5 judges who formed the majority were all male. It is a simple observation. And its not an uncommon observation that in any kind of policy debate about female birth control measures, the opinion of males is both louder and deemed more important than the opinion of those who it really concerns, namely the women who would be affected by such policies. Just think about that whole birth control hearing where from all the speakers congress had invited to talk about, pretty much everyone on the list was a guy?

Would it seem right to you if women in politics started to dictate when you can and can't use a condom or take viagra or use a penis pomp? Even if you don't need or use any of these items, would you be comfortable with women making far reaching decisions over this with no input from guys, the people who generally need these items?
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Message 1536806 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 15:13:08 UTC - in response to Message 1536797.  

You don't go with the SCOTUS's opinion, you go with the majority opinion of exactly 5 males who made this ruling.

Stop with the Sexist, anti-male rants.


+1 it's again the rules here!
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Message 1536844 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 16:42:12 UTC - in response to Message 1536812.  

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You have no respect for life, someone else's life anyhow. You are selfish, that ball of cells (a human life) seems to be an inconvenient truth for you.

I'm selfish?

Go through just one pregnancy, just one, before you dare to tell any woman that she has to put the rights of a ball of cells which is NOT in any sense of the word a person before her own rights as an actual human being.


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So obviously not a person that I have no idea why we even need to have this discussion.
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Message 1536856 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 17:05:27 UTC - in response to Message 1536797.  

You don't go with the SCOTUS's opinion, you go with the majority opinion of exactly 5 males who made this ruling.

Stop with the Sexist, anti-male rants.

It is clear to me that you are accusing the wrong people of sexism.

If all the women on the supreme court, and who are the ones who will actually be effected by this decision, are upset about it, then I'd say the problem is with the men who are making decisions on other people's behalf without understanding the consequences of what they are doing.


So before you cry sexism against men because you think the opinion of the women on the supreme court isn't as valid as the men's, you might want to check out this article:

10 words every girl should learn


There are a few people on this forum who need to read this, quiet honestly.
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Message 1536921 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 19:54:27 UTC - in response to Message 1536800.  

[Would it seem right to you if women in politics started to dictate when you can and can't use a condom or take viagra or use a penis pomp?
Please stop you are showing your agenda.
Obama didn't mandate Viagra now did he?
Obama didn't mandate condoms now did he?
Obama didn't mandate penis pumps now did he?
BTW none of these MAY cause a fertilized egg to implant.


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Message 1536928 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 20:03:16 UTC - in response to Message 1536797.  

You don't go with the SCOTUS's opinion, you go with the majority opinion of exactly 5 males who made this ruling.

Stop with the Sexist, anti-male rants.

Go looking under every stone and find it under every stone.

Put under the microscope and see that it the very similar looking religious nutter-ism

Yes, the Old Testament is sexist.

So it is time to burn all the bibles, torahs and korans.
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Message 1536939 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 20:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 1536921.  
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Please stop you are showing your agenda.
Obama didn't mandate Viagra now did he?
Obama didn't mandate condoms now did he?
Obama didn't mandate penis pumps now did he?
BTW none of these MAY cause a fertilized egg to implant.

He didn't mandate those things because he didn't need to. They were already part of the existing health coverage.

Also, non of the plan B things may cause a fertilized egg to implant. The whole point of anti conception is that they prevent that from happening at some stage.
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Message 1536940 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 20:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 1536844.  

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You have no respect for life, someone else's life anyhow. You are selfish, that ball of cells (a human life) seems to be an inconvenient truth for you.

I'm selfish?
Go through just one pregnancy, just one, before you dare to tell any woman that she has to put the rights of a ball of cells which is NOT in any sense of the word a person before her own rights as an actual human being.

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So obviously not a person that I have no idea why we even need to have this discussion.

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Message 1536978 - Posted: 6 Jul 2014, 22:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 1536939.  
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He didn't mandate those things because he didn't need to. They were already part of the existing health coverage. Also, non of the plan B things may cause a fertilized egg to implant. The whole point of anti conception is that they prevent that from happening at some stage.

You really don't know how things work in the US of A. Nothing was part of health coverage except what one purchased. That's funny penis pumps are a universal right; that is so European. Condoms do not prevent an egg from implanting. Like true contraception they prevent fertilization; really it is true.
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