If the Scots vote yes, the unicorn will not be on the UK Coat of Arms very much longer.

Oh Johnny, I have no idea why I bothered to get into this with you. You've got the Irish gift of the gab, but it is utter nonsense.

ES as I previously stated "Johhny is here to entertain us".

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Oh Johnny, I have no idea why I bothered to get into this with you. You've got the Irish gift of the gab, but it is utter nonsense.

ES as I previously stated "Johhny is here to entertain us".

Really.

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It's all the fault of Oliver Cromwell, if he hadn't chopped Charlie's head off then sent a bunch of troublemakers to Ireland, they would have to find something else to fight about
The 'royal family' didn't change name to Windsor until around 1910, they knew it was only a matter of time before the 'British' Germans would be fighting the German German's
The Welsh don't have little green men, (well, white men dressed in green???) but, we do have DRAGONS
As this thread has degenerated and is not about dog, (dyslextic?) I see no problem throwing random tenuously related stuff out for your amusement

The term 'God' and its meaning has a lot do do with what happens between the ears imho

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Its the same in every single nation on Earth. The "God" people were always there just waiting for us to arrive so they could have some fun playing God, with us!

Hello JG
You've got me wondering where the "God" people went after we took over the planet.
Are they hiding underground?
Did they all leave Earth?
Did we kill them?

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Its the same in every single nation on Earth. The "God" people were always there just waiting for us to arrive so they could have some fun playing God, with us!

Hello JG
You've got me wondering where the "God" people went after we took over the planet.
Are they hiding underground?
Did they all leave Earth?
Did we kill them?

Hi Robert,
Great to hear from you again buddy!

And that is a very good question Robert! And even at this stage, about 6 years into my investigation, I still don't have a 100% complete and concrete answer. But I will tell you what I do have so far;

It sounds like you at least read my last few posts in this thread, so let me summarise with a "God" people timeline;

Let me first say that I am currently unable to put a number on exactly how many "God" people were involved. And let me clarify that the only difference between them, the "God" people, and Us, who they call "Man", is scientific knowledge!! Scientific knowledge is the only difference between them and Us! In effect, they kept us in the dark by not teaching us any science. And because they, the genetic engineers that created us have a full and complete understanding of genetics, they, in some cases, MIGHT have extended their own lifespans.

The "God" people timeline, by ME!;
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4000 BC;
Mankind population; 2 people, Adam and Eve
"God" people population; 144 Million People(Ball Park guess, World Wide).

The rough Biblical date for the creation of Adam and Eve, that is US!!!
In 4000 BC, the Earth was already fully populated with people!! That is, the "God" people, and NOT Us!!! I'm guessing, but its an educated guess based on archaeological evidence, there MIGHT have been several MILLION of them in the year 4000 BC!! Ball park guess, about 144 million of the "God" people. And only 2 of us, that is, Adam and Eve, that they had just created. And they were spread out across the whole Earth. They were in every single country on Earth. What were they doing? Answer - Getting the planet "ready" for Us!! They were getting ready for the descendants of Adam and Eve to arrive in their country!! And passing the time completing genetic engineering projects like creating the different species of plants and animals and living creatures.

2000 BC;
Mankind population; 10,000 people, roughly!
"God" people population; 144 Million people(Ball Park guess).

The number of the "God" people, in theory, my current best guess is that their population never increases, it always stay's the same. Either way, they still out-number us by a massive amount anywhere the descendants of Adam and Eve go! They, the "God" people are ALWAYS there to meet the human beings when we arrive in each country. They are there to "Govern" us with their scary books, the holy books like the Christian Bible and the Koran, and the other "Holy Books" that they wrote!! And especially, they are there writing down every single thing we do!!! They write down everything the human beings do!!

Year 0 BC/1 AD; Birth of Jesus
Mankind population; 1 Million people, roughly!
"God" people population; 144 Million people(Ball Park guess).

They still out number us around the time of Jesus in Israel. But we, the human beings, are starting to spread out far and wide and they, the God People, take us all over the world to the countries they want us to be in.

1000 AD;
Mankind population; 100 Million people, roughly!
"God" people population; 144 Million people(Ball Park guess).

They still out number us by 1000 AD. But only by a small margin! But its still really easy to Govern us with the scary books!

1800 AD;
Mankind population; 1 Billion people, roughly!
"God" people population; 144 Million people(Ball Park guess).

By 1800, we have out numbered them by about 10 to 1, and they knew this would happen, and that is why they wrote it down in the Bible. They knew that eventually we would out number them, and that eventually "we", the humans, the descendants of Adam and Eve, would eventually take over the "Governments" of the world, in every single nation on Earth. This would mean that "God", that is "them", would loose power and control over the people. They knew we would take over when we out-numbered them. And they knew that we would make a complete mess of things when we try to Govern the Countries ourselves, without "God", that is, them!!. (Bloody Know-It-All's. Don't you just hate that!!).

2000 AD;
Mankind population; 6 Billion people, roughly!
"God" people population; ????

Ok, this bit is tricky to explain, this bit is complex. And this is my current "best educated guess". Right up to the year 1800 AD, I said the population of the "God" people was roughly about 144 Million. But this is where theology plays a part in this - I think, but i'm not 100% sure, that the "God" people simply start to die off in the last 200 years, roughly. And why do I say that??? Answer; Because if you interpret the Bible properly, in an indirect way, the Bible tells you that is what happens. But you need to study the theology of the Bible very closely to know this!

Its the Biblical concept of "Birth and Re-Birth". If you understand the theology of the Bible, the whole book constantly discusses this concept of "Birth and Re-Birth". And if you interpret the Bible properly, over the long cycle, they, that is, the "God" people will die, and we, that the Humans will be "Re-Born" as "God". In other words, in the end, when we finally take over and discover what they wrote in our DNA code, then we would truly know who and what "God" is! And we will be, as they say in the Bible, "We will be Re-Born", as a "Body of God people". In other words, we become God in the end! For this to happen, they, that is the original God people must die!

And as the Bible tells you, "God" is a "Body of People". Or the actual words it uses to describe this body is "The Body of Christ", a body of several Billion people. We the Human beings, the descendants of Adam and Eve, are "The Body of Christ". All 7 billion of us that are alive today are one "Body" because we all descend from the Adam and Eve they "created" 6000 years ago down in Iraq, Babylon. And we must be Re-Born to become "God", that is, a body of several billion people with "God-like" knowledge of Genetic Engineering!!

And in the Christian Mass, people go up to the alter and eat a piece of communion bread that is supposed to represent the "Body of Christ". But this gets even better - The bread the priest gives you to eat at communion time in Church is "Unleavened Bread"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleavened_bread

There is a special reason for that "Unleavened Bread". Its made from Wheat, as you would expect!! But its very very special!!! That particular wheat has extra code in the DNA of the wheat. The extra DNA code in that wheat is the DNA code to build a human being. And that human beings is "Jesus Christ". So when the priest in Church tells you, you are eating the "Body of Christ", he is not kidding, you really are eating a piece of bread, made from wheat, with the DNA code of Jesus Christ in the DNA of the wheat that made the bread.

See;
World population estimates - Wikipedia;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population_estimates
And remember, the further back in time the Wikipedia estimates go, the more the Wikipedia estimates will be WRONG!!! Because the real truth is not out just yet!

Also see; Body of Christ - Wikipedia;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_of_Christ

John-Paul

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The Body of Christ - Straight for the Bible;

"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many."
— 1 Corinthians 12:12-14

and

"Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;"
-- 1 Corinthians 6:19

and

"Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it."
-- 1 Corinthians 12:27

John-Paul

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The Body of Christ - Straight for the Bible;

"For as the body is one, and hath many members,

Matthew 18:9
And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away.

I know what you are saying brother, hallelujah.

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4000 BC;
Mankind population; 2 people, Adam and Eve
"God" people population; 144 Million People(Ball Park guess, World Wide).

I must then belong to the "God" people population Johnney (I certainly hope so anyway). :-D

Cheers.

I see the hospital misread my notes again...

...it should read: - Release date for the "Leprechaun's Chieftain" 1/7/2114.

The Doctor's never around when you need him!

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I do think we are all ascribing far far too much to all this...

:-P


Keep searchin',
Martin

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Has Elvis left the building yet?
I used to work with a guy who was at a Seminary, I forget which although I know he told me (originally he wanted to become a Catholic priest)
After a couple of years, he decided he would make a much better atheist and has been such for at least the last 40+ yrs
What's this got to do with anything?
Nothing LOL :o)

Oops... clicked the wrong thingy... will be back :) Or maybe not :) Or perhaps after a nibble on some toast... leavened of course... :)

Late edit: Hi PJ :) Nice to meet you!

Oops... clicked the wrong thingy... will be back :) Or maybe not :) Or perhaps after a nibble on some toast... leavened of course... :)

Late edit: Hi PJ :) Nice to meet you!

Beautiful multi-tasking in thoughts and food.

Like it :-)


Hi to everyone also.

Hope Johnny doesn't get his DNA too twisted ;-)


It may be all knotty but there is some very good physics behind how all those knots so wonderfully ravel-up and unravel again. All by the subtle balance of energy and the inherent structure of the DNA helix.

Now... DNA is finite. The possibility of whatever Bibles is infinite. (So that doesn't fit unless you believe in an infinity of dreamt-up interpretations.) What whatever engineers could have done is infinite... My view is there is no consistent view in what I believe Johnny is searching through to be able to say anything.


Now... Another example of what is beautifully fantastic from inherent structure is... Ta dahhh... The Mandelbrot set.

For that, we have a well known designer, Mr Mandelbrot, and an infinity of Bibles from a beautifully simple mechanism whereby you iterate through a simple calculation. The complexity is in the infinity of consistent results.

You can find anything you like in that. Also, the pictures look pretty :-)


Now that is intelligent by design! :-)

Keep searchin',
Martin

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Oops... clicked the wrong thingy... will be back :) Or maybe not :) Or perhaps after a nibble on some toast... leavened of course... :)

Late edit: Hi PJ :) Nice to meet you!

Nice to meet you too.
I like toast, you can eat it raw or cooked ;o)
The Mandelbrot series is pretty cool. I first saw it around 20 yrs ago. There are entire sites devoted to making 'pretty pictures'

....Hope Johnny doesn't get his DNA too twisted ;-)

It may be all knotty but there is some very good physics behind how all those knots so wonderfully ravel-up and unravel again. All by the subtle balance of energy and the inherent structure of the DNA helix.

Now... DNA is finite. The possibility of whatever Bibles is infinite. (So that doesn't fit unless you believe in an infinity of dreamt-up interpretations.) What whatever engineers could have done is infinite... My view is there is no consistent view in what I believe Johnny is searching through to be able to say anything.

Now... Another example of what is beautifully fantastic from inherent structure is... Ta dahhh... The Mandelbrot set.
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Keep searchin',
Martin

Martin,
You have known me on these forums for quite some time now. And you should also know that I rarely participate in theological discussions. Debating if something is infinite or finite is ridiculous. The Bible says that "Man" has a start and a finish. Starts with Adam and Eve, and ends with Armageddon and the end times stuff. So simple, a child could understand.

The Bible says that "God" is infinite. God is infinite because of the concept of re-birth. In other words, God goes on for ever and ever because he keeps getting re-born over and over again, endlessly. While this re-birth concept is more complex, its still pretty easy to understand. A Man has a child, and the child goes on to have another child, and that child goes on to have another child, and so on, and so on. Easy!

John.

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There is a special reason for that "Unleavened Bread". Its made from Wheat, as you would expect!! But its very very special!!! That particular wheat has extra code in the DNA of the wheat. The extra DNA code in that wheat is the DNA code to build a human being. And that human beings is "Jesus Christ". So when the priest in Church tells you, you are eating the "Body of Christ", he is not kidding, you really are eating a piece of bread, made from wheat, with the DNA code of Jesus Christ in the DNA of the wheat that made the bread.

When did Jesus's DNA first turn up in a flatbread do you think...?

It's just a real shame that the bible has been proved wrong so many times on so many levels so many times that......... [I'll stop there before I upset anyone]


Cheers.

I decide for myself what's right or wrong in the Bible...

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