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 Johnney Guinness  Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 
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... Consider this; If what I am saying is true, and there is a copy of the Christian Bible in your DNA, then we have found the aliens that this SETI project has been searching for, for the last 15 years. We have found "God"! I just think that is worth considering. What could be more exciting? Martin, I'm glad someone actually gets the point here! Thanks Martin! Thanks for actually "Getting the point", and putting some thought into the article content - Which suggests that there is a copy of the Christian Bible in your DNA. However... You have the very first impossible problem that whatever "Bible" you choose, you will be looking at the arbitrary invention of a human scribe. There will be no word for word comparison possible with any non-scribe source you choose/discover. Martin, The problem of the "scribes"; Martin, when I started investigating this back around 2008, I ask the question - "Who gave us the book, the Christian Bible"? Where did we get it? And who has been passing down this Biblical set of stories through the ages? Who is propagating the story? Well this is the answer; People!!!! People gave us the book!!!! Flesh and blood human beings wrote the book, and Flesh and blood human beings have been passing down that exact same book, the Christian Bible for thousands of years. My personal conclusion; Its NOT the word of "God", its words written by Flesh and blood human beings. And if that is the case, then it is indeed Flesh and blood human beings that are claiming to be "God". They, the Priests, the Bishops, the Cardinals, the Popes, all of them, they are all involved in it. Its they keep passing down this book called the Christian Bible. But Martin, pay close attention here, this bit is important - Its the "scribes" that I am most suspicious of!!! The "Monks", the blokes that live in Monasteries all over the world, isolated and secluded from the world, its them!!! They are the ones that have been writing the books!!! So its the "monks" that are the "scribes" that wrote the Bible. And its the same in all the worlds religions. In the background, there is always a secluded set of Monks, living in Monasteries hidden in the mountains somewhere, and they write texts, and the texts say that "They are God"!! Martin, do you remember me posting a topic here before about Monks in a Monastery down in Israel a year or two ago, and I said that these people actually ARE God!! Its they wrote the Bible, they wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls, its they have been propagating the Biblical story!! They are Flesh and Blood Human Beings just like us. And they had a written copy of the human DNA code thousands of years ago! Its they "created" us! Its the Monks in the Monasteries that created us! John-Paul 
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Julie  Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Its the Monks in the Monasteries that created us! Read it and Weep Julie! Get over it!! You ancestor, Adam, and his girl friend Eve, were "created" by Monks in a Monastery down in Babylon, modern day Iraq. Reed it and weep Julie! John. ID: 1533984 · |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18
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Its the Monks in the Monasteries that created us! I read it and if I weren't at work, I would've laughed really hard, John... rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1533987 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Its the Monks in the Monasteries that created us! Julie, Tell me something? Are you disappointed to find out in the end that you were created by God, the Lord of all Heaven and Earth? And that Jesus Christ is Inside YOU right now! John.
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18
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Its the Monks in the Monasteries that created us! I know God is inside me, my heart, John, I'm religious too, very religious, I pray every day but I can distinguish religion from science. rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1533991 · |
SciManStev     Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 
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Flesh and blood human beings have been passing down that exact same book, the Christian Bible for thousands of years. Sorry, but that is wrong. The original texts were first written 70, 80, and 90 years after Jesus died, and we no longer have any of the original texts. Next the writing we do have, was copied by scribes thousands of times. Many of the scribes couldn't even read, so changes were introduced. Many of the changes were introduced accidentally, and others were politically motivated. A great example is the prejudice toward women. That was not part of the older texts, but appeared later. Total changes to the Bible, are anywhere between 25,000 times at the low end, to 400,000 times at the high end. The changes didn't stop until the first printing press was developed. Sometime the same scribe would make several copies of the Bible, each of them being a little different from the other. Also, 11 books of the Bible are forgeries, meaning they were not written by the people who they were attributed to. Suppose you were an unknown person who wanted to add something. Nobody is going to listen to you, but if you wrote as if you were Mark, then you had some traction. Currently there are approximately 5000 different versions of the Bible, all of which differ from each other. So when you state that the same book has been passed down for thousands of years, that is just not true. Also, since the first writings didn't happen for 70 years after the fact, we are still less than 2000 years. Sources of reference: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why How to Read the Bible: A Guide to Scripture, Then and Now Steve Edit: I forgot one point of reference. Forged: Writing in the Name of God--Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1533993 · |
Daykay  Send message Joined: 18 Dec 00 Posts: 647 Credit: 739,559 RAC: 0 
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Lol if only it were possible to make a meaningful contribution to this thread... Alas, I wait with baited breath for the peer review and/or independent verification. Kolch - Crunching for the BOINC@Australia team since July 2004. Search for your own intelligence... ID: 1534005 · |
Intelligent Design  Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0
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Since at least 400 B.C., and Jewish scholars have looked for codes in the text of the Old Testament... Leonardo da Vinci has looked... Isaac Newton has looked... These people have not found a code and you want me to believe you have? Your name wouldn't be Rich Milne, would it? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... ID: 1534011 · |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18
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anniet  Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 
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Lol if only it were possible to make a meaningful contribution to this thread... Daykay - keep breathing - for the sake of the monks... ID: 1534015 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Flesh and blood human beings have been passing down that exact same book, the Christian Bible for thousands of years. Steve, No, no its not wrong!! Its 100% correct! Flesh and blood human beings actually have been passing down the Christian Bible for the last couple of thousand years. The statement is so simple and so true, even a child could understand it! Steve, then you go on and start telling lies to make things worse; The original texts were first written 70, 80, and 90 years after Jesus died, and we no longer have any of the original texts. Steve, that is just a blatant lie. The Dead Sea Scrolls are dated to around 300 BC to 400 BC; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls Who's leg are you trying to pull here Steve? More lies from "Science" Man Steve; Next the writing we do have, was copied by scribes thousands of times. Ok Steve, lets do the maths; You say "Thousands" of times. If it was 1000 times, for arguments sake, then between year zero and the year 2000, the "scribes" would have to successively copy the Christian Bible once every 2 years, never re-coping twice from the same book. So Steve, at best, your statement is a gross exaggeration. Now Steve, that's not very scientific, now is it? More lies from Steve; Many of the scribes couldn't even read, so changes were introduced. So Steve, they couldn't read, as you say, but they were able to write Christian Scriptures in Latin, Greek, Aramaic, and in Arabic and they wrote some of the greatest and most poetic lines in human history? Yea, right Steve! More lies from Steve; Many of the changes were introduced accidentally, and others were politically motivated. A great example is the prejudice toward women. That was not part of the older texts, but appeared later. Steve, you got to be kidding me. Jesus's mother Mary gets the single most high profile position of any woman in all human history. Mary is the "Mother of God". This puts Mary right up the top, and Mary is always beside Jesus in all the texts, Jesus always has his mother by his side. The most high profile and most powerful woman in human history. Mother Mary, the Mother of God, has influenced more people in human history than any other woman! More lies from Steve; Total changes to the Bible, are anywhere between 25,000 times at the low end, to 400,000 times at the high end. The changes didn't stop until the first printing press was developed. Really Steve? Wow.... 400,000 times? Wow, I can't believe it! Considering that there are only 750,000 words in the whole Christian Bible, then that would mean that roughly every second word has changed? Those guys down in Israel had better burn those Dead Sea Scrolls! The Dead Sea Scrolls are a perfect copy, word for word, of the scriptures you read today in the Christian Bible. The only bit of truth that Steve wrote; Sometime the same scribe would make several copies of the Bible, each of them being a little different from the other. Well Steve, You got one bit right! Yes, they were doing that! They were writing out duplicate copies of the Bible, and they did change some of the statements slightly to rephrase some Biblical quotes! Yep, you got that bit right Steve, good on yaa! And back again to more of Steve's lies; Also, 11 books of the Bible are forgeries, meaning they were not written by the people who they were attributed to. Lies Steve, there are no forgeries in the "Christian Bible". However, if you shop around on the internet you will find lots of people today writing whatever pleases them. But its not in the "Christian Bible". More lies from Steve; So when you state that the same book has been passed down for thousands of years, that is just not true. Also, since the first writings didn't happen for 70 years after the fact, we are still less than 2000 years. Come on Steve, who are you trying to kid? Everyone knows the Bible claims that Adam and Eve started the whole thing. In theory, the Biblical date for this event would be roughly about 4000 BC. Come on now Steve, Get with the program here. If your going to knock God and the Bible, at least make an honest effort to make your lies sound believable. John.
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SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0
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Why don't you read those books I referenced. They are written by people holding PHD's in theology. I think they will open your eyes quite a bit. These are historical facts, not lies. Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website ID: 1534041 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Why don't you read those books I referenced. They are written by people holding PHD's in theology. Come on Steve, You just wrote a bunch of lies. why would I go an read a book that you told me about? John. ID: 1534051 · |
William Rothamel  Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4
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I would like to recommend another book for a historical look at Judea and life there around the putative life of Jesus. It also talks to the 'Bible" and how it came to be in it's current form. Zealot by Reza Aslan The life and times of Jesus of Nazareth. It will shock you about the pagan sacrifice rituals and the way of life of the Jews of Judea and their Roman occupiers. In case you forgot Jesus was a jew. Also for good measure, read Deuteronomy and ask yourself if this is the inspired word of a benevolent creator. ID: 1534052 · |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18
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Why don't you read those books I referenced. They are written by people holding PHD's in theology. Those books weren't written by Steve, John. You of all people should have an open mind towards books written by people holding PHD's in theology... rOZZ Music Pictures ID: 1534053 · |
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anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75
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Steve has been very respectful in view of what he could have said. He's let you down gently, Johnney. I think both William and Julie have made very wise points too... and expressed them politely... the poor manners in response are a shame... effective defense requires knowledge... have a read. You don't have to believe... but you'll make much better arguments as to why. :) ID: 1534090 · |
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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0
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Daddio and Julie, Thanks for the tips about the books, its appreciated. And Julie, I understand what you are saying. Steve was trying to be helpful by posting the links to relevant books. I know this! And I bet they are good books! There are millions of books available to read in the world today, both old and new books. But I have a real problem with books. I never just sit down and quietly read a nice book for entertainment, never. I only read books that lead me further down the line of investigation I have been following for the last 7 years. So the books I read are very specific. Here is a good one for you - The Christian Bible I am always talking about!! I haven't read all of it!! I haven't read the full Christian Bible. I just have that same vague recollection of the bible stories from my childhood, whatever they told me in school, or in Mass/Church before I was 12 years of age. I chop in and out of different parts of the Bible, and I read them, but never the full book, its too big. And today, I can't even finish reading the Book of Genesis, the first book in the Bible. I can't make it through one complete sitting to fully read the Book of Genesis. Its very hard to explain why. When I read the words, I start seeing "Keys" in the words. And when I see the Keys in the words, then I have to go off and investigate the new Keys I just found. As a result, I never get to the end of reading the Book of Genesis. I just see "Keys" everywhere in the book. Every line I read gives me new Keys and I have to go off and investigate the Keys. I know you guys won't understand what I am saying, but that is what is going on in my head. But I know, that God knows, exactly what I am talking about with the "Keys"! So I have a real problem reading books. John-Paul.
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anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75
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I've read it from cover to cover four times. It's makes for a very nasty read in places. :( ID: 1534100 · |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18
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