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Message 1528383 - Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 22:42:33 UTC

This is from last week, but no one has posted about NASA's work to move at "faster than light" speed.

http://www.iflscience.com/space/nasa-reveals-latest-warp-drive-ship-designs

You might be thinking to yourself right now “Faster-than-light travel? But Einstein!” Yes, according to Einstein’s theory of relativity, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. But scientists are looking for ways to get around this, and a team based at NASA Eagleworks, led by Dr Harold “Sonny” White, have been working on just that. They discovered a loophole that could theoretically allow faster-than-light travel without breaking the laws of physics. How? Warp drive, of course!

If a spaceship could be designed in such a way that it created a warp bubble, then the space in front of the ship would be compressed and the space behind would expand. This would result in space-time moving around the object, repositioning the ship without it actually moving.

Read more at http://www.iflscience.com/space/nasa-reveals-latest-warp-drive-ship-designs#WWm233teTadbgIpP.99

Another link.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/warpdrive-spaceship-design-meshes-graphic-design-dreams-with-nasa-reality/story-fnjwlcze-1226951676955

PR stunt or bold vision? Here’s what is possibly the best look yet at what NASA believes will be the spacecraft that will take us to the stars.

It’s slick. It’s circular. It’s gleaming white.

Everything a spaceship should be, based on the science fiction industry.

Oh, and yes: It’s been dubbed “Enterprise”, after the spaceship at the heart of the famous Star Trek television and film series.

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Message 1528431 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 2:12:07 UTC

Wow... :) Thanks for the post Wiggo. Definitely one to watch :)

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Message 1528439 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 3:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 1528431.

I is possible to show that faster-than-light travel appears to be equivalent to time travel.

I for one am in no position to say that time travel is definitely impossible, but causality is a big problem. Killing your own grandfather type thing.

In my mind whenever I hear "FTL" I also hear "time travel". So I'm a skeptic.

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Message 1528449 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 3:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1528383.

If that were ever able to work I suspect it would take almost an infinite about of power.


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Message 1528561 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 11:14:53 UTC

There was only one problem with all this: where does the energy come from? While we knew that warp drives were theoretically possible, physicists have always argued that they would require a ball of exotic matter the size of Jupiter to power it. Clearly, that was not practical. But thankfully, Dr. White has found a solution that changes the game completely.

The Eagleworks team has discovered that the energy requirements are much lower than previously thought. If they optimize the warp bubble thickness and "oscillate its intensity to reduce the stiffness of space time," they would be able to reduce the amount of fuel to manageable amount: instead of a Jupiter-sized ball of exotic matter, you will only need 500 kilograms to "send a 10-meter bubble (32.8 feet) at an effective velocity of 10c."

Ten c! That's ten times the speed of light, people (remember, the ship itself would not go faster than the speed of light. But effectively it will seem like it does).

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Message 1528584 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 13:34:29 UTC

Dr. White's current experiments use a high voltage electrical charge as a proxy for exotic matter. He believes that it may be possible to create a space warp in this way. The advantage to this method, of course, is that we can readily generate and control electrical charges, while exotic matter is currently unavailable.
The results so far hint at the possibility that a small space warp may already have been created. To confirm this, Dr. White seeks to reduce the noise factor in the laser interferometer, which is used to detect a possible space warp, and to change the the electrical field from a static state to an oscillating one. This, it is believed, will increase the efficiency of the supposed process of warp field creation, and, so, make it easier to detect.

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Message 1528672 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 18:25:06 UTC

Good to dream and aim high. Maybe some day but no time soon, ie. not in my lifetime.


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Message 1528685 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 18:34:55 UTC

+1 Bob!

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Message 1530529 - Posted: 21 Jun 2014, 8:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 1528685.
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They are stuck in LEO for forty years now and they present designs of FTL ships?? XDDDDD

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Message 1541659 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 19:25:38 UTC

I was under the impression that the speed of light is not constant.
Gravity will affect the speed as light is made of photons which is affected by gravity.

What really amazes me is the TV show "Star Trek" and just how real the technology is.

Now we are seeing the possibility of time travel, warp engines, ion power, transporter beams

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Message 1541691 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 20:32:29 UTC

What really amazes me is the TV show "Star Trek" and just how real the technology is.

Now we are seeing the possibility of time travel, warp engines, ion power, transporter beams

We already have body scanners and communicators. Gene Roddenberry was a genius.

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Message 1541748 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014, 21:50:54 UTC - in response to Message 1541659.
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... What really amazes me is the TV show "Star Trek" and just how real the technology is...

What really really amazes me into dumbfoundment is how JJ Abrahams can take the Star Trek story and then pass off the vats/silos of a brewery as though it was somehow an ultra-high-tech starship engine room.

The pathetically sad aspect is:

Is the USA audience so uneducated that they do not know the insides of a brewery when they see one?... It wasn't as if there were any special effects to hide anything!!!



Painfully pathetic and a very sad reflection upon anyone watching.


Only in the USA?

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Message 1541864 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 4:09:58 UTC - in response to Message 1541748.


What really really amazes me into dumbfoundment is how JJ Abrahams can take the Star Trek story and then pass off the vats/silos of a brewery as though it was somehow an ultra-high-tech starship engine room.
Keep searchin' (for intelligence,)
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I haven't seen the new Star Treks, but thanks for the tip. If I get around to seeing them, I'll be looking for that.
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Message 1541867 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 4:18:30 UTC

Yeah I never could figure out what they had water running around the engine room for. Which movie used shots of CERN to make it look more space ship like.


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Message 1541967 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 10:17:04 UTC

These flicks are obviously made to a minimum budget .....

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Message 1542313 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 23:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 1528439.

I for one am in no position to say that time travel is definitely impossible, but causality is a big problem. Killing your own grandfather type thing.

In my mind whenever I hear "FTL" I also hear "time travel". So I'm a skeptic


there is a way around the Grandfather Paradox

you don't travel through time but into another universe so time travel laws are not broken you may go back or forward but your not in your original vers so the Grandfather Paradox does not happen you kill some other you father in a different vers

and then there is the Einstein Rosen bridge (worm hole) that could let you travel FTL without time travel

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Message 1542316 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 23:53:29 UTC - in response to Message 1542313.
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I don't need FTL travel, only a cheap way to travel at 99.999 % light speed. Time dilation will do the rest.

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Message 1542324 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 0:04:59 UTC

Hey guys we are all Seti nerds and you ppl are dissing Star Trek WTF.....

Who cares if the engine room is a brewery or they used shots from the US Laser Fusion reactor I reackon it looked great and love the remake of the crew they got the cast correct can't wait till the next 1

I like the new Scotty madder than the old 1
Bones is fantastic even more grumpy than the old 1
love the guy whom is spook
Chekhov is great a bit young but love the accent
Kirk is great too
Ohura is hot
and the inside , the bridge is fantastic I even like the Throttle control hahaha
a great bit of humour there a star ship with a Throttle control like a boat



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Message 1542326 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 0:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 1541967.

These flicks are obviously made to a minimum budget .....

And obviously targeted to a dumbed down minimum intelligence audience to maximize the receptiveness to adverse advertising...


Shame really in that the original series was a little Bible-thumping sometimes but it did try to be as intelligent and as thoughtful as was possible.

I believe the series very nearly didn't get off the ground because the pilot episode was too far out for the sample audience!


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Message 1542337 - Posted: 16 Jul 2014, 0:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 1542326.

ML1 grrrrrrr dissing Star Trek ......I ban you from Seti grrrrrrr


hey it can of been that bad they have made

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