Another example of "business-without-morals" greedily and selfishly destroying all around?

Or an ongoing brazen case of crass corruption?...



We need to call out Abbott's climate nihilism

... Abbott made this sneering reference to climate science and global climate change mitigation efforts one day after becoming the leader of the Liberal party...

... The events that precipitated Abbott's comments are important, because they reveal the character of the man who is now prime minister...

... Abbott was hedging. The polls showed that most Australians supported climate action, so he could not, like Minchin, come out directly and deny it was real. Instead, he used talking points imported from the USA designed to cast uncertainty and doubt on the reality of climate change, without denying it outright...

... Possibly the most revealing statement made by Abbott is his infamous climate change is "crap" line. He said to a small audience with a local reporter present in October 2009: "The argument [on climate change] is absolute crap... however, the politics of this are tough for us. 80 per cent of people believe climate change is a real and present danger."

Here, perhaps, we glimpse the truth behind Abbott's changing position on climate change action. It comes down, not values or morality, but "the politics"...

... Substantial donations are made to the Liberal party by the fossil fuel industry, almost $13 million according to Charles Sturt University academic Clive Hamilton. Major donors to the LNP since 2010 include Hancock Coal (owned by Gina Rinehart), Minerology (owned by former LNP Queensland president and life-member Clive Palmer), Caltex, Chevron, QCoal, Santos and Woodside. Also contributing to the LNP were energy retailers AGL, Origin Energy and Energy Australia.

Since becoming prime minister, Abbott has been very focused on delivering for this key business constituency... after his election victory in 2013 he has set about dismantling Australia's carbon pricing and climate mitigation policy framework.



And our world be damned!

All on our only one planet,
Martin

---

See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

He's known here as "The Mad Abbott" for very good reasons. ;-)

Cheers.

He's known here as "The Mad Abbott" for very good reasons. ;-)

And is all so known as 'MAD MONK ABBOTT"

Your to kind Wiggo i can think of a few better names hehehehehe

---

... And is all so known as 'MAD MONK ABBOTT"...

All a part of an English-speaking Marketing phenomenon?...

Or is it that the industrially sponsored FUD-polluters have not though to hire translators?...

Or just a side-effect of the American sponsored FUD people in their arrogance being unaware that the rest of the world even exists?



Global warming denial rears its ugly head around the world, in English

In Australia, USA, UK, and Canada, politicians are rejecting evidence and expert opinion about climate change

... There is a pattern among these examples of politicians rejecting the full body of available scientific evidence and the consensus among climate experts – each is in an English-speaking country...

... Rejection of human-caused global warming was most prevalent in the USA, UK, and Australia, with Canada not far behind in 7th. These four countries also share the commonality of highly influential fossil fuel industries, and the wide reach of the Murdoch media empire, known for its global warming denial.

The rejection of inconvenient scientific evidence also originates from conservative political parties in each country...

... Global warming denial remains a tenable position for politicians in English-speaking countries because voters in those regions don’t yet view the issue as urgent or a high priority, in large part due to the false balance in media coverage of the subject. However, as people continue to directly experience more intense and frequent extreme weather events, this will inevitably change.

We’re in the midst of a critically important race. Will the political climate in these countries change quickly enough for them to take action to prevent the most damaging global climate changes?



All on our only one planet,
Martin

---

See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

Will the political climate in these countries change quickly enough for them to take action

Don't worry Martin MAD MONK wont be in power for that much longer and it won't be the climate debate that will get rid of him . It's all the other draconian policy's he wont's to bring that has already changed things here you should see the protests marches here .

I say bring on the 'DD" , double dissolution so we can have a new election

---

Will the political climate in these countries change quickly enough for them to take action

Don't worry Martin MAD MONK wont be in power for that much longer and it won't be the climate debate that will get rid of him . It's all the other draconian policy's he wont's to bring that has already changed things here you should see the protests marches here .

I say bring on the 'DD" , double dissolution so we can have a new election

The double dissolution is already there Glenn (on 2 fronts), but Abbott isn't game to go back to the polls (likely because he doesn't want to be known as 1 of the shortest servicing Liberal PM's). ;-)

Cheers.

Wiggo i agree 100% mate heheheheheheheheheheheehehe

I guess he's try it get as much perks as he can and rort the system like a true capitalist , you seen how much he has claimed this year in expenses it's like 1.8 mil acording to my twitter feed

Talk about pigs at the troth...

---

A interesting read for the crack pot denial , proof the sun has not changed it's output in 100 million years

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/28/neutrinos-sun-physics_n_5728606.html

This link was in the scince Threads but is also appropriate here to

thank Lynn

---

A interesting read for the crack pot denial , proof the sun has not changed it's output in 100 million years

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/28/neutrinos-sun-physics_n_5728606.html

To what level of precision?

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/08jan_sunclimate/

In the galactic scheme of things, the Sun is a remarkably constant star. While some stars exhibit dramatic pulsations, wildly yo-yoing in size and brightness, and sometimes even exploding, the luminosity of our own sun varies a measly 0.1% over the course of the 11-year solar cycle.

There is, however, a dawning realization among researchers that even these apparently tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate.

0.1% has "significant effect on terrestrial climate." So I ask again about the neutrinos, to what level of precision?

---

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/28/louisiana-residents-naegleria-fowleri-water-supply-precaution

The link shows 1 effect that has not been foreseen . Na we don't have to worry about Global warming right !

---

Two secret funders of Nigel Lawson’s climate sceptic organisation revealed

Two secret funders of Nigel Lawson’s climate sceptic organisation have been revealed. This is the first time anyone financing the group has confirmed their contributions. Both are linked to a free-market thinktank, the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA), which has admitted taking funding from fossil fuel companies and has also argued against climate change mitigation.

The names were uncovered by the investigative blog Desmog UK. Neil Record, the founding chairman of a currency management company Record and an IEA trustee, confirmed he has given money to the GWPF but said the amount was a “private matter”. Record gave the IEA £36,000 to support a seminar featuring Lawson in November 2009 and on the same day Lawson launched the GWPF. Record told the Guardian: “I personally regard the continuing contribution of the GWPF to the climate change debate as very positive in assisting balance and rationality in this contentious area.”

Lord Nigel Vinson, a wealthy industrialist and life vice-president of the IEA, has given the GWPF £15,000 according to Charity Commission records. “I am very proud to fund [the GWPF],” he told the Guardian. “You have to put a question mark over climate change if over the last 14 years the world has not got any hotter.” Scientists argue this “pause” in air temperatures is an illusion, based on cherry-picked data and ignoring the fact that over 90% of trapped heat enters the oceans.

When science indicates that we are actually in global warming which is actually a BAD THING and it is caused by mankind and that we can do something about it that will not destroy civilization as we know it then let me know and I will be on your side.

Not sure if this is the right place to put this. The number dying in this arena is on the rise :((( so maybe crimes like these should ultimately have their own thread, but I'll pop this here for now...

Authorities confirm killing of Edwin Chota and three other men

Illegal loggers are being blamed for the murder of four Asheninka natives including a prominent anti-logging campaigner, Edwin Chota, near the Peruvian frontier with Brazil.

A 2012 World Bank report estimated that as much as 80% of Peru’s logging exports are harvested illegally and investigations have revealed that the wood is typically laundered using doctored papers to make it appear legal and ship it out of the country; while a 2012 report by the Environmental Investigation Agency indicated at least 40% of official cedar exports to the US included illegally logged timber.

:(

Now, I know the difference between Global Climate, Local Climate, and Weather, but DANG!

We are in the middle of the traditional dry season here where I live here in Texas, but so far this year we have had a very WET summer that is unseasonably cool. Temperatures this summer have been 20F to 30F below 'normal' almost all days, and I don't think we have had a single day with a high >= 100F yet this summer.

And the rain... So far this summer, it has been raining like it usually does only in fall through spring. Right now it is raining cats and dogs outside, and my guess would be about 2 inches so far today. We usually get only about 1 inch per month this time of year, but this year it has rained many if not most of the days. I like it.

Reasons why:

1. My electric bill. Less hot outside means less AirCond. use, meaning lower electric bills.

2. The Food. Area gardens are still going strong on many vegetables that have usually bolted (due to the heat and dryness) a couple months ago.

The one part about it I don't like is... the mowing. I mow not only my own yard, but also one of my neighbors. About 0.9 acres total. With the grass still growing fast and furiously, I still need to mow about twice a week. The grass should have slowed its growth about 2 months ago.

If this *IS* human caused climate change, I must say that I like it.

... If this *IS* human caused climate change, I must say that I like it.

At the other end of the jet stream we have:


Anger grows amid flood disaster in Kashmir and Pakistan

There is mounting anger in Indian-administered Kashmir amid accusations that the government has acted too slowly in the flood crisis.

Many homes and even hospitals in the capital Srinagar are submerged...

... in Pakistan the authorities are preparing to battle rising rivers threatening Multan city.

The death toll in the two countries has passed 450 and is growing by the day...


There is a strong connection there...


All on our only one planet,
Martin

---

See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

If this *IS* human caused climate change, I must say that I like it.

You are wet, but ...
http://www.edwardsaquifer.net/intro.html

---

Gary what the hell does that have to do with Flooding in Kashmir or Pakistan ???

---

Gary what the hell does that have to do with Flooding in Kashmir or Pakistan ???

I was commenting on MK's message. I know this board doesn't thread well, but there is an "in response to Message #"

---

Gary what the hell does that have to do with Flooding in Kashmir or Pakistan ???

I was commenting on MK's message. I know this board doesn't thread well, but there is an "in response to Message #"

Interesting thanks for the aqua-strata for that part of Texas.

So... With the unusually intense rainfall, the artesian wells are going to blow their tops and flood far away from the rainy area?... :-P



More seriously, is there where Big Industry can deny their impact on the surrounding world no longer?

Business finds new ways to save water for the future

... "I am not saying climate change is not important," he told the Financial Times in July.

"What I am saying is even without climate change we are running out of water and I think this has to become the first priority."

The statistics are certainly shocking...

... Less talked about, though, is the potential impact on business and the global economy. Water is after all an essential input just like energy...

... "So now when they go into a region like India, they invest in habitat restoration, ensuring the quality of the waterways. "You think it's not revenue-related but it is, because it also secures their factories' future in that region in the long run."



Can business really look after our environment 'for the long run'?...

All on our only one planet,
Martin

---

See new freedom: Mageia Linux
Take a look for yourself: Linux Format
The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3)

Gary what the hell does that have to do with Flooding in Kashmir or Pakistan ???

Probably nothing at all, they have always had the highest recorded rainfall on the planet, I remember from geography/geomorphology lesson in mid 1970's it rained more there in monsoon season than in the Amazon basin (although I forget actual numbers)