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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Hello I.D nice try but not going to bite mate Your proof that this will happen? I don't see much pointing at a thing called proof. And smaller brain does not equate less intelligence, just saying... Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
tell ya what ask me to prove it in 70 yrs when kids are born with smaller brains and then you may have to rethink I.D as a theory as it will point to "oh no" Darwin's theory being correct !!! there you go I bit ok.....hehehehe |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
the current guestimate is that a computer model running at 25 teraflops could predict weather out to up to a month in advance world wide with accuracy in the high 90's it has been proposed that through volunteer computing this might be done. so if one is to argue either for or against global warming and what to do about it first we need an accurate model so we can figure out what has to be done and then how to do it. and if volunteer computing is what will make this possible i guess that i will have to build a much faster gaming rig. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
if volunteer computing is what will make this possible i guess that i will Go for it and let it run. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Oh Yeah. As Far As Sea Level Rising. +2, lol:) rOZZ Music Pictures |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Glen Savill said: you got no more than 65yrs till it's to late and man starts to revert back to apes Thank GOoDness you are NOT A SCIENTIST. Only someone 'researching' on The Net. Man 'O Live. Talk about 'Extremist'. Got Ape? Chimp? Huge Brow Ridge? Big Nose, weak chin, widdle brain? Wait, Neanderthals had Big Brains. Must of been the Lack of Oxygen. heeeheeeheee 97 to 4. Oooopsie dat don't add up. ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Meanwhile, for some real-world denial that is having an ever more expensive impact here and now: England 'exposed' to climate risks England is still not doing enough to tackle the risks from climate change, government advisers say.... ... three-quarters of existing flood defences are inadequately maintained because of a cash shortage. Rules to avoid floods affecting new developments have also been delayed. The government says it has offered an extra £270m to repair storm-damaged defences and is committed to adapting infrastructure to extreme weather. But the CCC says that at current rates of investment in flood defences, flood risks for people in England will increase. The chair of its adaptation sub-committee, Lord Krebs, told BBC News: "The £270m announced by government is a one-off payment to repair damage - not to invest in the future. "The Environment Agency shows unless that increased investment is sustained until the 2020s, the risk of flood damage will actually increase. "If you don't maintain defences properly you will just stack up problems. ... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
PJ Send message Joined: 30 Jun 14 Posts: 127 Credit: 774,387 RAC: 0 |
Unfortunately, anyone working on global warming needs funding. Whoever is doing the funding will have various motives for wanting a specific outcome. To continue being funded, some data may be 'fudged' as 'inconclusive' or even omitted |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Unfortunately, anyone working on global warming needs funding. Whoever is doing the funding will have various motives for wanting a specific outcome. To continue being funded, some data may be 'fudged' as 'inconclusive' or even omitted Soviet science .... |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
the whole point of the volunteer compute moment started here is that a graduate student need not wait for many years and tenure to access large amounts of computer power to test his or her ideas. what better excuse for building that monster gaming rig? now if i add the old cards to the new cards with two systems i can run 10.4 tflops and the weather model will take about 25 pflops or 25,000,000 tflops gosh i am going to need a much better gaming rig. |
PJ Send message Joined: 30 Jun 14 Posts: 127 Credit: 774,387 RAC: 0 |
Something I've always wondered about, although small, what is the effect of various jets overflying the poles? (or even ordinary jet flights?) even the cleanest engines are going to be depositing various chemical compounds directly into the stratosphere, the 'dirty' jet engines of the 50's~60's would obviously be much worse |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Something I've always wondered about, although small, what is the effect of various jets overflying the poles? (or even ordinary jet flights?) The effects were pronounced in the 3 days after 9/11 when US air travel stopped. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Unfortunately, anyone working on global warming needs funding. Whoever is doing the funding will have various motives for wanting a specific outcome. To continue being funded, some data may be 'fudged' as 'inconclusive' or even omitted Which is where we rely on peer review and scientific repeatability to expose if anything like that was being attempted. So far, despite extremely harsh and intrusive investigations, some of which have very definitely been politically motivated, Climate Science remains clean and honest. In stark contrast, there is incredible FUD and dishonesty being Marketed by various industrially sponsored mouthpieces... All a game on our only one planet?... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Glen Savill said: You and I both know it was protein not Oxygen that made our brain pans bigger. Just don't tell him, let him figure it out himself....K? Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick... |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30639 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Unfortunately, anyone working on global warming needs funding. Whoever is doing the funding will have various motives for wanting a specific outcome. To continue being funded, some data may be 'fudged' as 'inconclusive' or even omitted Unfortunately, all the people doing the peer review are also being paid by the same source of funding, so there is no independent review. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
Agreed. But the 'fudging' problem, if you have Many Models, starting from different motives/perspectives, may finally give some predictions that are correct. Unfortunately, this is a fantasy. There are too many persons 'totally invested' in the present thinking. They cannot allow alternate Models/Theory's. ____________ while there may be some of that the final test of a weather model in not how well it is funded, or how pc it is, it is how well it predict's weather. anyone who can program can read online how to set up a boinc project and then solicit volunteers to run their project,little or no money required. if the model predicts weather well it will get peer reviewed. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Glen Savill said: Ok a Little Extreamist but it is true what don't add up 2.5ppm * 65 = 162.5 so 400+162.5=562.5ppm buy 2080 and that's not including a rise of 2-5% extra Co2 per year That's simple math a 12yr old can understand |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Something I watched a few weeks ago should alarm us all . A Doco by ABC's Catalyst science show a special Called a bit Exteramist but " Earth Burns" It talks about how over the last decade or so the Bush and forest's of North America and Australia and how the frequency and strength of the fires which they now call MEGA fires are destroying the natural bush and forests . Part of the reason more so in North America they stopped burning the bush and this has lead to 2 things happening 1 is there are more trees per hectare 2 when the Fires have come they are more fearce and kill the seeds as they also come more often and trees need about 20yrs to get to maturaty and start producing seedlings The frequency of the fires has been put down to yep you guessed it GW CO2 as even after forests have been burnt fires still come through and can still be as strong burning what's left In Australia it's a little different as we have never stoped burning the bush in winter to lesson the fires in summer and so have the first peoples. However the fires are bigger and more intense and certain tree types in the Snowy Mountains called Snowy Mountain Gums are dieing as they are not as used to normal gum trees at being burnt as often and whole areas of the Snowy's the bush is dead huge freaking area's and in the places where gum trees are used to being burnt more often are also having trouble as it's even to often for them They are trying to replant these areas with trees from greenhouses outside the Snowy's This is a form of direct action and it won't work It's also why we are in realy big shit if the bush dies boys , no CO2 to O2 factory's anymore THE TREE'S |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... THE TREE'S Yep, the trees are very important for multiple reasons. Shame we're still chopping them all down... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Glenn Savill said: That's simple math a 12yr old can understand The Earth Gulps Down Your Math and Spits it Out. Hopefully Throught Mount Toba. A Blast Like 75,000 years ago will Put An End To All Math fO Quite Awhile. Got CO2 Mount Toba? Mount Toba says: Frakkin' A. ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
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